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Post by FBtagteamsrule on Jun 6, 2017 11:05:25 GMT -5
I started watching HBK in the 2000's, not in the late 80's or 90's. He is one of my favorite wrestlers and I enjoy his figures, but does that mean I enjoy all flashbacks in general? Absolutely not. I stated earlier I don't hate all flashbacks, and that I don't think they should be removed at all, just stop making ones of guys who don't sell and that rot the shelves. Should they stop making Ambrose, Big E, Crews and Sami (tnf) who are all rotting around here? Ambrose is at every local TRU, Targets and Walgreens. (And at TRU and 2 Targets it is multiples of both his Elite and his new BP) Big E is at every TRU, Target Walgreens and WalMart. Crews both his Elite and Basic have multiples at TRU, Target and WalMart. And Sami has 4+ at each WalMart (as well as multiple Shield sets at both WalMart.) So by your logic they should stop making those guys also. Again just because something doesn't sell well in your area doesn't mean it isn't selling well someplace else. And vise versa. I am pro-flashback but my area is pro-modern. For TNF2, Sami was the first to go, Macho almost as fast, and the Natural Disasters are warming. And for the 3-packs they usually have 1 Shield set left for every 3-4 BATB sets. In the Elite line, usually only see Luger, Tugboat, and Regal. For Dms have seen Nakamura once while the FBs barely move.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jun 6, 2017 11:05:28 GMT -5
It's blows my mind that we have a magnum ta figure and not a superstar Billy Graham figure What happened with him? Didn't Bill say he couldn't decide if he wanted to use a younger or older head for Graham? I think he said that anyway. Was last year I believe. Edit...My memory could be off but I think he said that to one of the forum members at RSF last year. Yeah, don't think it was an official RSC Q&A but someone from here that talked to him at RSF or Toy Fair or Super Toy Con. Think what was said is that the older bald headed goatee Superstar would be the more recognizable but the younger would be the better figure. Why not make both? We have three Ottmans. We have three Charles Wrights. We have two Waltmans. Graham is more significant and as recognizable than any of them. Even for those who may not know who he was, he's still a colorful enough character with flashy attire to make younger collectors want to pick him up.
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Post by PJ on Jun 6, 2017 11:09:04 GMT -5
I think they said Bill said they would do an older Graham first, but he didn't rule out a 70's version at a later date.
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 7, 2017 2:59:06 GMT -5
Your screen name is HBKOWNS meaning you like HBK. It would be safe to say you would enjoy HBK merchandise, including HBK figures. So it is funny that you knock flashbacks or dislike them, being that the case is that for you to get a figure of your fav wrestler you'd have to hope for a Flashback figure. That said I very much so enjoy flashback figures. WWE is an incredibly fickle company. One day you're the company's top guy and the next they act like you dont exist. Bruno, Hulk, and others have all been shunned at one point or another. So you have to take the flashback figure when ever they're available. Besides as it is now with flashbacks we get the same guys in every other wave. WWE, for some reason, does not like making figures of their roster. Save for a few of the top guys who've been there for a while. I started watching HBK in the 2000's, not in the late 80's or 90's. He is one of my favorite wrestlers and I enjoy his figures, but does that mean I enjoy all flashbacks in general? Absolutely not. I stated earlier I don't hate all flashbacks, and that I don't think they should be removed at all, just stop making ones of guys who don't sell and that rot the shelves. Im the kind of customer that will look to buy flashbacks long before I think of current characters. You could make and sell me an SD Jones figure before I'd think of buying Cena/Ambrose/Roman/Rollins/Flavor of the month wrestler. I understand im in the minority on that opinion but it's just the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 7:54:24 GMT -5
I think flashback of 80s and 90s guys are great cause the kids will look up the matches on the network see some classic matches. Also, you're more likely to meet these wrestlers at conventions and Indy shows. Get autographs on the figures and it helps the older wrestlers stay in people's mind. When a dad is shopping with his kid sees Brutus the barber figure. And goes oh hey this guy was a wrestler when I was your age. It's good for business all around I think.
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Post by toofastone on Jun 8, 2017 11:09:33 GMT -5
Flashbacks, Legends, and HOF are the sole reason I collect. I only wish that some of them weren't wasted only to hold a better outfit hostage ex. Legends Snuka, Legends Steamboat, Legends Rude. The first Rude should have been a IC Champion Rude. Snuka of course barefoot and Steamboat Wrestlemania 3.
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Post by CampCornette on Jun 8, 2017 11:26:40 GMT -5
Flashback fans will always want more, obscure, flashbacks to round out collections. Modern fans will argue those figures warm. Modern fans will always argue they want more depth and variation of current roster to round out collections. Flashback fans will argue those figures warm.
9 pages and 7 years summed up.
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Post by worldwarhulk on Jun 9, 2017 4:39:55 GMT -5
I'd prefer only 1 maybe 2 flashbacks in a wave. Cause I don't buy the modern figures, and it's nice spending less each wave. But when you're dealing with a tag team they both need to be in the same wave.
But the idea of catering to the modern wrestlers... no, I don't think so.
My reason for only wanting 1 or 2 flashbacks per series is purely financial. If I could keep up with it, I'd have loved to see the Legends series continue on. I'd have flashbacks take up half of every wave. I'd bring back Entrance Greats, which would be almost entirely classic characters.
I don't think there's ever too many flashbacks. Just too much of a toll on my pocket.
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Post by Plastic Cowboy on Jun 9, 2017 10:59:02 GMT -5
I think they said Bill said they would do an older Graham first, but he didn't rule out a 70's version at a later date. I wish they would just release this figure with 70s head and 80s head, kill both birds with one stone. If not they need to realize a young head with a basic Sammartino battle pack asap.
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Post by newgenandy on Jun 9, 2017 11:26:05 GMT -5
I only collect flashbacks. I'm with you buddy!
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Post by qdogg on Jun 9, 2017 11:32:32 GMT -5
Maybe they should try to do 8 figures a wave to try to make both sides happy
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Post by PJ on Jun 9, 2017 11:42:11 GMT -5
Maybe they should try to do 8 figures a wave to try to make both sides happy No. I am sure both sides would still b*tch that one side is getting more than the other. Plus now it would be no doubles of the popular figures as it would only be one figure of each.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jun 9, 2017 13:37:31 GMT -5
I think they said Bill said they would do an older Graham first, but he didn't rule out a 70's version at a later date. I wish they would just release this figure with 70s head and 80s head, kill both birds with one stone. If not they need to realize a young head with a basic Sammartino battle pack asap. 70's Graham for me please. I was so disappointed to hear bill say he will probably do an older Graham even though I think he said he wants the 70's version himself.
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Post by Plastic Cowboy on Jun 9, 2017 13:41:43 GMT -5
I wish there was more 70s early 80s guys. My biggest want is 70s Graham, early 80s Hogan in singlet and 80s Bob Backlund, and David Von Erich. So needless to say I am not annoyed with flashbacks.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jun 10, 2017 0:23:40 GMT -5
Maybe they should try to do 8 figures a wave to try to make both sides happy No. I am sure both sides would still b*tch that one side is getting more than the other. Plus now it would be no doubles of the popular figures as it would only be one figure of each. To be fair, that might not be such a bad thing... E47 AJ Styles aside, nearly all the double-packed figures seem to hang arouand longer or get reduced quickly (...the recent Apollo Crews being a prime example!). If there was going to be 8 figures per-series, I think it would (or should) always be an even split of 4 current and 4 flashback... that way, neither side could complain - and it would mean we have a couple more flashbacks per-series without taking away any current figures.
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Post by PJ on Jun 10, 2017 2:43:41 GMT -5
No. I am sure both sides would still b*tch that one side is getting more than the other. Plus now it would be no doubles of the popular figures as it would only be one figure of each. To be fair, that might not be such a bad thing... E47 AJ Styles aside, nearly all the double-packed figures seem to hang arouand longer or get reduced quickly (...the recent Apollo Crews being a prime example!). If there was going to be 8 figures per-series, I think it would (or should) always be an even split of 4 current and 4 flashback... that way, neither side could complain - and it would mean we have a couple more flashbacks per-series without taking away any current figures. Apollo Crews shouldn't have been the 2 per case figure. The guy isn't doing anything remotely exciting in the WWE. The Orton moved at 2-per case. Now after it has been out for a few weeks here only multiple Crews figures remain on the pegs of stores that had the wave. So clearly (at least around here) he was the wrong choice for the second 2 per case figure. And a 4/4 FB/Modern pack out people would complain. The OP is complaining now about us getting 2 FB per case and not focusing more on the Modern roster. You don't think he would be complaining if we got 2 more FB instead of modern wrestlers?! lol
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Post by Medieval on Jun 10, 2017 5:56:21 GMT -5
To be fair, that might not be such a bad thing... E47 AJ Styles aside, nearly all the double-packed figures seem to hang arouand longer or get reduced quickly (...the recent Apollo Crews being a prime example!). If there was going to be 8 figures per-series, I think it would (or should) always be an even split of 4 current and 4 flashback... that way, neither side could complain - and it would mean we have a couple more flashbacks per-series without taking away any current figures. Apollo Crews shouldn't have been the 2 per case figure. The guy isn't doing anything remotely exciting in the WWE. The Orton moved at 2-per case. Now after it has been out for a few weeks here only multiple Crews figures remain on the pegs of stores that had the wave. So clearly (at least around here) he was the wrong choice for the second 2 per case figure. And a 4/4 FB/Modern pack out people would complain. The OP is complaining now about us getting 2 FB per case and not focusing more on the Modern roster. You don't think he would be complaining if we got 2 more FB instead of modern wrestlers?! lol Nakamura was rumored for elite 49 originally but got replaced with crews. I am thinking he was gonna be 2 per case but instead they made his replacement 2 per case. Which was a bad move imo. He is warming all over in my area.
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Post by randyrock on Jun 10, 2017 7:37:34 GMT -5
Flashback fans will always want more, obscure, flashbacks to round out collections. Modern fans will argue those figures warm. Modern fans will always argue they want more depth and variation of current roster to round out collections. Flashback fans will argue those figures warm. 9 pages and 7 years summed up. Well said.
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Post by sicko16 on Jun 10, 2017 7:44:41 GMT -5
I don't see it as a problem really. If a flashback is being made, its usually in an iconic attire. If a current superstar is being made, they're in an attire that is 9 months to a year out of date, and may or may not be worse than their current attire
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Post by Dylan ❤️s Wrestling on Jun 13, 2017 4:36:51 GMT -5
I don't see it as a problem really. If a flashback is being made, its usually in an iconic attire. If a current superstar is being made, they're in an attire that is 9 months to a year out of date, and may or may not be worse than their current attire Yeah I used to agree with the original poster but with how dated these "new" releases are becoming, at least with Flashback figures they don't have to worry about this. I think it might be the fault of WWE a bit, if they really want to sell merchandise (uh, yeah of course they do) they need to work something out with Mattel and 2K attire-wise. For any long-time collectors, this wasn't as much of a problem before as it is now. You'd have guys that essentially wore the same thing for a decade (or half a decade) like Rock, Austin, Hogan, Nash, Hall, Giant, Goldberg...the list goes on and on... OR you'd have guys like Jericho, Eddie, Ultimate Warrior, Benoit (I had all of his attires, sad), Kurt, etc who had a rotating set of attires they'd wear. So your figure wouldn't feel dated because you'd see their outfits change back and forth week to week. And even these guys didn't really have wildly different attires from eachother for the most part, you'd mostly just see the same thing in different colours or the same design elements (Kurt, US flag) moved around a bit. Now it seems more common for a star who could have a rotating set of attires wear that attire for a length of time and then retire it instead of go back and forth or have stars change themselves up just as we finally get their figure (or to be them in the wrestling game).
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