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Post by JokerFC on Jun 14, 2017 5:33:06 GMT -5
So we were in work yesterday have a chat about Raw and Joe vs Lesnar.......and one of the lads piped up and said
"wouldn't it be great if Joe turned up and absolutely killed Lesnar......just totally steamrolled him".
So I said I would make a thread outta this to see what we all thought......it wasn't something that had occurred to me to be honest
I was thinking myself last night if Vince & HHH were to g down this road? They create their own monster immediately that will be there every week. If you were to have him hold the title until WM and building him up defeating all comers(not clean all the time because he is a heel after all) surely the guy that went over him would be viewed as legit?
On the flip side? Could Lesnar recover from this as a draw? We have already seen this with Goldberg but Goldberg was viewed differently by the fans than Joe currently is.
Not really committing either way here.....just interested to see what folks think.
Discuss.
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Post by IRS on Jun 14, 2017 5:49:12 GMT -5
TBH, I'd rather see Joe win in after a hellacious, slobberknocker of a match than to squash Lesnar. Brock got squashed in two of his last three matches, so I think it's too early to go back to that again without making him look weak.
Let them just murder each other for 15-20 minutes, and maybe get Joe to win by making Brock pass out with the Coquina Clutch.
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Post by Funk The Revival on Jun 14, 2017 8:11:33 GMT -5
Goldberg kinda did that already, would be a bit of a repeat. If Lesnar retains and Joe looks good in doing so, both will benefit
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Post by ARUN on Jun 14, 2017 8:14:17 GMT -5
I'd rather have both of them beat the hell out of each other and have Joe win.
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Post by hbkowns on Jun 14, 2017 9:49:22 GMT -5
Joe should win
But he won't because Lesnar needs to look strong to drop the belt to Roman.
Meh
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 9:56:21 GMT -5
I don't care who wins. I just want to see a good fun match.
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Post by Supreme Cross on Jun 14, 2017 10:04:30 GMT -5
i'd like to watch a great match from these 2 superstars. i know they can have one but will they? i dont think so. Lesnar will just do suplex after suplex and maybe an F-5
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Post by McBlake on Jun 14, 2017 10:18:23 GMT -5
I don't think it suits Joe. I love what they have done with him since winning the 5 way but prior to that he was never much of a monster. Lesnar is unique anyway. He'll never be replicated.
People go on about believability and why a match with Finn wouldn't work. I say Joe steamrolling a former UFC champion is just as unrealistic.
I wouldn't mind Joe winning despite still enjoying every moment Lesnar is on screen, but it should be an all out war.
A glorified squash would simply be a waste of a dream match.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 14, 2017 10:22:32 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be awesome if Lesnar came out and just had a normal  ing wrestling match with someone? That'd be cool. Amirite?! |
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Post by Shane O. on Jun 14, 2017 10:28:52 GMT -5
IF Lesnar wants to put in the work and not just suplex Joe for 15 minutes with a few F5's sprinkled in, this match can be a classic. It's a money match with loads of potential that can certainly elevate Joe if he has a strong enough showing and of course if it isn't a squash either way. It's important to remember that even if Joe loses, that doesn't necessarily mean he's a lost cause especially if the bout is a back-and-forth, hard-hitting affair. Personally I'd love to see Joe take the strap in an all-out war of a match, but then again this whole Lesnar/Roman idea for Mania 34 appears to be the plan going forward. Either way I can't wait to see it!
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Post by marino13 on Jun 14, 2017 10:42:30 GMT -5
I would LOVE to see Joe get a dominant win. Because Lesnar isn't going to be around forever. So WWE needs to build up guys off of Lesnar's name. Whether it be Joe, Braun, or even Reigns. WWE needs to build up someone on the full time roster ASAP.
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Post by xtremebadass on Jun 14, 2017 11:39:24 GMT -5
Raw's long term plans are so obviously set in stone the chances of Joe beating Lesnar are less than 1%. However, if WWE really wanted to stick it to the critics they would have Joe win and just go with the "ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN" thing. That's the route they should go. The whole Lesnar vs. Reigns at Mania is gonna fall flat on its face and many fans assume Lesnar keeps the belt until then which is even more discouraging to viewers since Raw will be without a champion for most of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 11:44:25 GMT -5
We all know Brock is winning. It is what it is. Brock vs Joe has been my number one realistic dream match since 2006. I'm just hoping for a good match. I'm so happy Joe is being booked properly for the first time since 2007. I do remember years back someone in the pic fed thread doing a show where Joe straight knocked Brock the out pretty quickly in a match. I always loved that. |
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Post by marino13 on Jun 14, 2017 12:55:20 GMT -5
I heard someone mention on a podcast earlier that supposedly the office is VERY pleased with how the Joe vs Brock feud is progressing. And that they may be interested in extending it past GBOF. Depending on fan reaction. So (if true), that is great news. Hopefully win, lose, or draw, Joe comes out of this looking like a monster.
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Post by Truth HuRts on Jun 14, 2017 13:02:44 GMT -5
No one is beating Lesnar apart from Reigns
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Post by rowdy1971 on Jun 14, 2017 13:19:32 GMT -5
This should have been the main even for Mania next year, they are hotshotting it too fast. If anything, have this go a while and end in a hell of a double count out or double DQ so they can have another match at Summerslam that can be a no DQ or something. I don't want a lame one and done.
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Post by DC:UK on Jun 14, 2017 14:09:21 GMT -5
As said above, I wish they hadn't done this so soon and saved it for one of the Big 4. Joe already looks like a credible threat, so I hope this goes on longer than the one match that is rumoured.
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Post by PJ on Jun 14, 2017 14:52:12 GMT -5
If you want someone to beat Brock dominantly is shouldn't be Somoa Joe he's nearing 40 years old it should be a younger guy who will be wrestling in the WWE for years.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 14:56:48 GMT -5
If you want someone to beat Brock dominantly is shouldn't be Somoa Joe he's nearing 40 years old it should be a younger guy who will be wrestling in the WWE for years. Goldberg? |
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Post by Kanenite on Jun 14, 2017 14:57:59 GMT -5
Here's where I would rank the options
1. Joe beating Lesnar in a slugfest
2. Joe squashing Lesnar
3. Joe winning in some other sort of way
4. Lesnar barely winning, and implications of a rematch
5. Anything else
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