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Post by mrassbillygunn on Dec 14, 2017 19:45:03 GMT -5
Am I right in saying that the new Entrance Greats line will not be available in the UK/International markets?
If so this is getting very tough for international collectors. I was really looking forward to the new Kurt Angle Angle figure, the TRU Virgil, the Then Now Forever figures and the upcoming Hall of Fame figures...no UK releases. This is shocking, why arent Mattel doing better distribution?
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Post by LtD73 on Dec 14, 2017 19:51:10 GMT -5
Angle is on Smyths site currently scheduled for January for £32.99
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Dec 14, 2017 19:56:33 GMT -5
Angle is on Smyths site currently scheduled for January for £32.99 Thanks for clearing that up, pitty about the price tag. If the sound base is whats causing the price increase...surely this would have been a figure better suited in the standard elite line? I mean, I think we could all do without the sound base. Does anyone here actually really use them? |
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Post by PJ on Dec 14, 2017 19:58:46 GMT -5
Yeah I was going to say someone mentioned it being at Smyths website yesterday. They said the price was about $45 US.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Dec 14, 2017 20:18:11 GMT -5
It should be available just like defining moments were if the stores still want them
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Dec 14, 2017 21:25:05 GMT -5
Angle is on Smyths site currently scheduled for January for £32.99 Thanks for clearing that up, pitty about the price tag. If the sound base is whats causing the price increase...surely this would have been a figure better suited in the standard elite line? I mean, I think we could all do without the sound base. Does anyone here actually really use them? You would think so but so many people on here wanted basic looking Elite figures like Debut Kurt Angle or WCW Goldberg in DM or EG packaging that they forgot the massive price difference between those and regular Flashbacks. Quite stupid if you ask me, also that figure is not worth £32.99 🙄 |
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Dec 14, 2017 22:01:08 GMT -5
Thanks for clearing that up, pitty about the price tag. If the sound base is whats causing the price increase...surely this would have been a figure better suited in the standard elite line? I mean, I think we could all do without the sound base. Does anyone here actually really use them? You would think so but so many people on here wanted basic looking Elite figures like Debut Kurt Angle or WCW Goldberg in DM or EG packaging that they forgot the massive price difference between those and regular Flashbacks. Quite stupid if you ask me, also that figure is not worth £32.99 🙄 I agree. £32.99 is insane, I mean its bonkers, lets be honest and Bill needs to take some blame for this. Hes the guy Im guessing that picks and chooses which figures go in which line. That Kurt Angle figure is a standard elite, which here in the UK cost £19.99, Im going to have to pay an extra £13 because it has a sound base that I have absolute no use for, nor im sure most collectors even want. I mean, why would you? Its crazy. £32.99, these costs are beyond ridiculous and they wont sell here in the UK at that price, Ill be buying mine but elites are clogging shelves here at the current price of £19.99 they only sell when Smyths drop them in price and even then they are hard to shift. Worrying. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Dec 14, 2017 22:05:31 GMT -5
Am I right in saying that the new Entrance Greats line will not be available in the UK/International markets? If so this is getting very tough for international collectors. I was really looking forward to the new Kurt Angle Angle figure, the TRU Virgil, the Then Now Forever figures and the upcoming Hall of Fame figures...no UK releases. This is shocking, why arent Mattel doing better distribution? No, you're not right. It will be available. It will just be expensive, and people will wait for it to be reduced then complain when the Entrance Greats line stops. Mattel can't force stores to order figures. Asda got in some of the Then Now Forever figures and they didn't sell well, so they haven't had more. The Hall of Fame figures seemed to sell pretty poorly at Smyths and they haven't ordered more as a result. Whining on here won't change that. Whining to the stores themselves to order more niche lines from Mattel might help, but probably won't, because they're aware the market here doesn't really support it all. |
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Dec 14, 2017 22:14:25 GMT -5
Am I right in saying that the new Entrance Greats line will not be available in the UK/International markets? If so this is getting very tough for international collectors. I was really looking forward to the new Kurt Angle Angle figure, the TRU Virgil, the Then Now Forever figures and the upcoming Hall of Fame figures...no UK releases. This is shocking, why arent Mattel doing better distribution? No, you're not right. It will be available. It will just be expensive, and people will wait for it to be reduced then complain when the Entrance Greats line stops. Mattel can't force stores to order figures. Asda got in some of the Then Now Forever figures and they didn't sell well, so they haven't had more. The Hall of Fame figures seemed to sell pretty poorly at Smyths and they haven't ordered more as a result. Whining on here won't change that. Whining to the stores themselves to order more niche lines from Mattel might help, but probably won't, because they're aware the market here doesn't really support it all.Good job explaining why Mattel aren’t at fault for distribution, loads of people seem to misunderstand this. |
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Dec 14, 2017 22:19:36 GMT -5
Am I right in saying that the new Entrance Greats line will not be available in the UK/International markets? If so this is getting very tough for international collectors. I was really looking forward to the new Kurt Angle Angle figure, the TRU Virgil, the Then Now Forever figures and the upcoming Hall of Fame figures...no UK releases. This is shocking, why arent Mattel doing better distribution? No, you're not right. It will be available. It will just be expensive, and people will wait for it to be reduced then complain when the Entrance Greats line stops. Mattel can't force stores to order figures. Asda got in some of the Then Now Forever figures and they didn't sell well, so they haven't had more. The Hall of Fame figures seemed to sell pretty poorly at Smyths and they haven't ordered more as a result. Whining on here won't change that. Whining to the stores themselves to order more niche lines from Mattel might help, but probably won't, because they're aware the market here doesn't really support it all. I think your jumping ahead of yourself, I didnt "whine" I put forward reasonable concerns. You shouldnt attack me for voicing concerns. And they are legit concerns that deserve a rational response. Im well aware Mattel cant force stores to order figures, however I think the idea of keeping these figures locked into the standard elites series is a better and cheaper idea. Abolsute no need for the Entrance Greats line, just like there was no need for some of the Defining Moments figures to be released. I mean you go back and go through them, Jericho didnt need a DM release, Both Cenas didnt, Im sure theres one or two others than the same applies too. I think rather than blaming the stores for not ordering figures, rather Mattel/Bill should take the blame for poor decision making as well. Legit arguments, not me "whining" as you put it. |
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Dec 14, 2017 22:21:55 GMT -5
No, you're not right. It will be available. It will just be expensive, and people will wait for it to be reduced then complain when the Entrance Greats line stops. Mattel can't force stores to order figures. Asda got in some of the Then Now Forever figures and they didn't sell well, so they haven't had more. The Hall of Fame figures seemed to sell pretty poorly at Smyths and they haven't ordered more as a result. Whining on here won't change that. Whining to the stores themselves to order more niche lines from Mattel might help, but probably won't, because they're aware the market here doesn't really support it all.Good job explaining why Mattel aren’t at fault for distribution, loads of people seem to misunderstand this. Very few misunderstand it. You also have to accept poor decision making from Mattel doesnt help the cause. Ill ask you, did you really want a sound base that will push up the price considerably? or would you have been perfectly happy with Kurt Angle and many of the DM figures as a standard elite release? |
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Dec 14, 2017 22:27:11 GMT -5
Good job explaining why Mattel aren’t at fault for distribution, loads of people seem to misunderstand this. Very few misunderstand it. You also have to accept poor decision making from Mattel doesnt help the cause. Ill ask you, did you really want a sound base that will push up the price considerably? or would you have been perfectly happy with Kurt Angle and many of the DM figures as a standard elite release? Tbh, I don’t want either lol. And it’s not really poor decision making, it’s a clever way to kick of a new line and despite you complaining about the price, you’re still going to buy it. So Mattel reeled you in hook, line and sinker 🤷🏽♂️ |
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Dec 14, 2017 22:27:57 GMT -5
Look at the headaches Mattel cause themselves, take the elites for example, you currently have, THEN NOW FOREVER, DM, EG, HALL OF FAME, RSE and finally the standard elites series. I mean, is it any wonder the stores across the pond wont order them in? And then Bill says in the q&a series that, basics outsell elites....lol is it any wonder?
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Dec 14, 2017 22:32:44 GMT -5
Very few misunderstand it. You also have to accept poor decision making from Mattel doesnt help the cause. Ill ask you, did you really want a sound base that will push up the price considerably? or would you have been perfectly happy with Kurt Angle and many of the DM figures as a standard elite release? Tbh, I don’t want either lol. And it’s not really poor decision making, it’s a clever way to kick of a new line and despite you complaining about the price, you’re still going to buy it. So Mattel reeled you in hook, line and sinker 🤷🏽♂️ Well hows it clever when they dont sell? The other poster just admitted, Asda couldnt sell the TNF figs, the HOF figures didnt sell well at Smyths either. The demand isnt there, so Mattel then decide to release a new line (the EG) and charge £32.99 when they couldnt sell elites at half that price? |
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Dec 14, 2017 22:53:34 GMT -5
Tbh, I don’t want either lol. And it’s not really poor decision making, it’s a clever way to kick of a new line and despite you complaining about the price, you’re still going to buy it. So Mattel reeled you in hook, line and sinker 🤷🏽♂️ Well hows it clever when they dont sell? The other poster just admitted, Asda couldnt sell the TNF figs, the HOF figures didnt sell well at Smyths either. The demand isnt there, so Mattel then decide to release a new line (the EG) and charge £32.99 when they couldnt sell elites at half that price? It’s clever because the first 2 EG figures are the first ever Mattel WWE Elite figures of Kurt Angle and Jeff Hardy and that’s the attraction/selling point. People will pay £32.99 for them, you’re proof of this lol |
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Post by SteveHulk on Dec 14, 2017 23:15:47 GMT -5
I have no problem with the first Kurt Angle being an Entrance Great figure... as has been pointed out, it's clever marketing (like with the Goldberg ring) - heck, if I was working at Mattel, I'd do the same thing.
What I do (strongly) object to though, is us (in the UK) being charged a ridiculous price of £33 (almost $45!) for the figure... especially when he's only about $28 in the US. That's a whopping $17 mark-up... it's madness.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Dec 14, 2017 23:33:29 GMT -5
Well hows it clever when they dont sell? The other poster just admitted, Asda couldnt sell the TNF figs, the HOF figures didnt sell well at Smyths either. The demand isnt there, so Mattel then decide to release a new line (the EG) and charge £32.99 when they couldnt sell elites at half that price? It’s clever because the first 2 EG figures are the first ever Mattel WWE Elite figures of Kurt Angle and Jeff Hardy and that’s the attraction/selling point. People will pay £32.99 for them, you’re proof of this lol Oh and what about the clutter of elites that cant sell for £19.99 or less that clog the shelves at Smyths up and down the country? Ofcourse im going to buy Kurt Angle, just like im going to buy flashbacks in general. It doesnt mean they sell well, the earlier poster said the TNF and HOF figures didnt sell and Ill not be paying £32.99 for Jeff by the way. Had he been £19.99 in a standard elite release, probably because in all likely hood he would drop further to £14.99 which is the average clearing price at Smyths, however I cant see a £32.99 release getting dropped to £14.99 could you? and if so, I cant see too many being ordered in for the future, and say for arguments sake NWO Hogan got a EG release down the line...well guess what? Stores dont order him! prices sky rocket on secondary market and we are out of pocket! |
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Dec 14, 2017 23:35:19 GMT -5
I have no problem with the first Kurt Angle being an Entrance Great figure... as has been pointed out, it's clever marketing (like with the Goldberg ring) - heck, if I was working at Mattel, I'd do the same thing. What I do (strongly) object to though, is us (in the UK) being charged a ridiculous price of £33 ( almost $45!) for the figure... especially when he's only about $28 in the US. That's a whopping $17 mark-up... it's madness. Clever marketing? Do you know if they are selling? I know my local Smyths cant shift them and xmas is only 2 weeks away. |
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Dec 14, 2017 23:41:00 GMT -5
I have no problem with the first Kurt Angle being an Entrance Great figure... as has been pointed out, it's clever marketing (like with the Goldberg ring) - heck, if I was working at Mattel, I'd do the same thing. What I do (strongly) object to though, is us (in the UK) being charged a ridiculous price of £33 ( almost $45!) for the figure... especially when he's only about $28 in the US. That's a whopping $17 mark-up... it's madness. Just out of curiousity, is the sound base a selling point for you? Or would you have been happier paying less for this figure to be a standard elite fb? |
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Dec 15, 2017 0:08:56 GMT -5
It’s clever because the first 2 EG figures are the first ever Mattel WWE Elite figures of Kurt Angle and Jeff Hardy and that’s the attraction/selling point. People will pay £32.99 for them, you’re proof of this lol Oh and what about the clutter of elites that cant sell for £19.99 or less that clog the shelves at Smyths up and down the country? Ofcourse im going to buy Kurt Angle, just like im going to buy flashbacks in general. It doesnt mean they sell well, the earlier poster said the TNF and HOF figures didnt sell and Ill not be paying £32.99 for Jeff by the way. Had he been £19.99 in a standard elite release, probably because in all likely hood he would drop further to £14.99 which is the average clearing price at Smyths, however I cant see a £32.99 release getting dropped to £14.99 could you? and if so, I cant see too many being ordered in for the future, and say for arguments sake NWO Hogan got a EG release down the line...well guess what? Stores dont order him! prices sky rocket on secondary market and we are out of pocket! So what is your problem now? Are you worried that the £32.99 selling price may turn people off and not buy Kurt Angle thus Entrance Greats no longer being ordered and sold by Smyths? If so, that’s not Mattel’s fault, it’s Smyths 🤨 It’s not like Mattel gives them a set price to sell them otherwise it’ll make no sense why RSC is selling EG Angle $3 more than their average Elite whereas Smyths is selling it for £13 more. You’re trying to place a lot of blame on Mattel when quite frankly it’s the stores you should have a beef with. |
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