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Post by TheChamp420 on Dec 3, 2020 18:43:14 GMT -5
I think they did fine with Crow Sting, but surfer sting........
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Post by stc13 on Dec 3, 2020 18:46:11 GMT -5
Is him signing a merch deal out of the realm of possibility? Seeing Jake and DDP both continuing to get figures seems like WWE is willing to allow their legends work for other companies. Jake and DDP already had existing legends deals, and they'll likely be moving to AEW merch whenever those deals expire. I'm all but certain that the Jake and DDP figures we're getting are at least in part to undercut demand for future AEW figs.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Dec 3, 2020 19:22:10 GMT -5
They definitely did drop the ball imo. I’m not trying to be harsh on Mattel and I appreciate that they gave us different varieties of Sting. However, I’d rather have quality over quantity. Sting had the most inconsistent parts if you ask me. Surfer got the Batista torso, modern Sting got the huge Ziggler arms, Wolfpac had small arms/thin torso and Starrcade Sting had the roided arms. I wish they would gave Sting tall boots for his mid-late 90’s crow look and Hawk arms. Surfer Sting should of had the thicker Ziggler legs and Austin torso, singlet Sting (Wolfpac) used X-pac’s torso and had logo placements in the wrong section with incorrect face paint. It should of used the hall of champions Eddie torso to compliment his thick legs. I could go on, but it is what it is. It’s such a bummer because Sting is my favorite wrestler of all time and there was a huge gap missing in between main lines from his WCW figures. I haven’t bought any AEW figures, but if they give me some Crow Stings from 1997-2000 I’ll buy them all. I just hope they go the extra mile and make new tooling with his boots, pads, hairstyles and different face paints.
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Post by venomeratt on Dec 3, 2020 19:32:59 GMT -5
Their strategy of holding out on mega popular or in demand attires to get some less popular ones out in between tends to backfire fairly often.
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Post by Evil Abed on Dec 3, 2020 20:06:18 GMT -5
I look back and E39 is the biggest missed opportunity. NO ONE asked for a tshirt Sting, its the same thing as Shield Angle. It’s one thing if you get out the other wanted figs as well but when there’s a clear timeframe that you have to work with, you have to get out the looks people are asking for, because those are the ones that sell (i.e. Shield Kurt was still available on RSC until recently). I know Surfer Sting is really viewed as under-represented on here but I also think we lost out on a bunch of crow Stings. Each era got one fig, most of the times exclusives, and we never got an elite late WCW Sting. Imagine a 2 Pack of the last Nitro match between Flair and Sting and how awesome that could have been. Jericho, Sting, Angle, RVD and to an extent even guys under contract like Eddie and Booker T have been extremely poorly represented in the lines given how long of careers they’ve had and how many looks could be out there.
...But hey Ill always have 20,000 different ways I could have that dream match between Warrior and Nakamura.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Dec 3, 2020 20:47:33 GMT -5
I look back and E39 is the biggest missed opportunity. NO ONE asked for a tshirt Sting, its the same thing as Shield Angle. It’s one thing if you get out the other wanted figs as well but when there’s a clear timeframe that you have to work with, you have to get out the looks people are asking for, because those are the ones that sell (i.e. Shield Kurt was still available on RSC until recently). I know Surfer Sting is really viewed as under-represented on here but I also think we lost out on a bunch of crow Stings. Each era got one fig, most of the times exclusives, and we never got an elite late WCW Sting. Imagine a 2 Pack of the last Nitro match between Flair and Sting and how awesome that could have been. Jericho, Sting, Angle, RVD and to an extent even guys under contract like Eddie and Booker T have been extremely poorly represented in the lines given how long of careers they’ve had and how many looks could be out there. ...But hey Ill always have 20,000 different ways I could have that dream match between Warrior and Nakamura. I am pretty sure Shield Angle is still warming at Canadian TRU
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Post by y13 on Dec 3, 2020 20:52:01 GMT -5
they should've made more surfer stings. The problem wasn't so much quantity of Stings. it was quality imo. the white/green Surfer sting and Bash at the Beach Sting were great figures ruined by terrible part choices. that bluetista torso was made for a guy thats 6'6 near 300lbs. So why it got used so many times for ppl that had no business having it, behooves me. My fave was the original DM Crow Sting. Even tho without the coat, u start noticing the weird boots. The huge stumpy legs. Not having molded gloves. Woodgrain bat. But ultimately the face was great. Hairstyle and color looked accurate. The little molded on necklace was a nice touch. And the coat was awesome. So it looked amazing on the shelf. This. Sting is my favorite of all time and I didn’t get any Surfer Stings. The closest was probably that Elite one with the white/green. But they certainly put some out there. The DM Crow was a dream figure since Jakks Classics so I’m content with that as far as the Crow look goes. Would have liked the Legends 7 figure but it is what it is
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Post by warriorheart on Dec 3, 2020 21:38:51 GMT -5
I think they did on the Surfer Stings for sure. GAB 90 was awful due to the head and scan. Then we got the BAB 96 which nobody was ever asking for. We finally get a decent one, but it’s GAB 91. That isn’t even a top match of his let alone an attire. I always chalked it up to the guys who run the WWE figs for Mattel just weren’t WCW/NWA fans growing up and didn’t really know which ones should be made. Plus I’ve heard Sting liked the Crow gimmick better and that might have been part of it as well. He was surprised a few years ago at the positive reaction he got for when he dressed up as Surfer for Starrcast.
As mentioned, he should of had as many figs as Savage and Warrior in the Surfer look.
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Post by stc13 on Dec 3, 2020 21:59:58 GMT -5
I think they did on the Surfer Stings for sure. GAB 90 was awful due to the head and scan. Then we got the BAB 96 which nobody was ever asking for. We finally get a decent one, but it’s GAB 91. That isn’t even a top match of his let alone an attire. I always chalked it up to the guys who run the WWE figs for Mattel just weren’t WCW/NWA fans growing up and didn’t really know which ones should be made. Plus I’ve heard Sting liked the Crow gimmick better and that might have been part of it as well. He was surprised a few years ago at the positive reaction he got for when he dressed up as Surfer for Starrcast. As mentioned, he should of had as many figs as Savage and Warrior in the Surfer look. Whether it's a call by the design team or something coming from WWE, it's pretty clear WCW figures take a back seat. There are more figures from Luger's short WWF run than from his years in WCW. It's laughable how few Elites Flair has, and again I think you can argue they better represent his WWF run than his years as the cornerstone of WCW. At least the basics are more WCW-centric. Diesel has been remade a few times in recent years, while it's been a few years now since a WCW Nash. It is what it is. But it's disappointing how modest my WCW shelf is compared to the shelves and shelves of WWE figures I have from the same eras.
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Post by judas on Dec 4, 2020 4:18:48 GMT -5
Nothing that hasn’t already been said.
Says it all that his most accurate fig is a basic and even that took years to get the recipe right. Crow wcw basics were good though. The midget neon green with the Kevin Sullivan teeth and that bizarre photoshopped face on the packaging was just horrific.
The NS Basic and the Fan Central BP Sting were his best figures. All his elites had issues whether it was a massive head, too skinny, too wide, too small or other bizarre body part choices. They never did him justice elite wise. E39 red shirt elite was probably closest to reality. The Wolfpac is the worst, it’s flat out hilarious, it’s the same size as X Pac lol.
Bizarre part choices, Bills refusal to make iconic surfer attires and no neon pink, neon green or yellow surfer elites means they dropped the ball for me personally. Can’t moan quantity wise. But quality is another thing.
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Post by sandeep on Dec 4, 2020 5:33:14 GMT -5
We got stupid selection of Nakamura as Ultimate inspite of a Sting is what we call dropping a ball.
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Post by Eric on Dec 4, 2020 9:33:44 GMT -5
It seems like the people defending Mattel point to the number of figures, but even the number isn't good enough to me, especially when all of them had glaring issues. Not every fan or poster here is young enough to remember/know, but Sting is one of the most popular wrestlers of all time. Not being a WWE guy for his entire career doesn't change that.
From the late '80s to well into the 2000s he was top 3 in each organization he worked for, if not the top guy. That deserved at least twice as many figures as he got, and it even more so deserved better figure treatment. GAB blue Elite Sting and the neon green Basic are so awful they should be erased from history. Even DM Crow, which is good, had a tiny torso and ripped Warrior-like arms. "Not accurate" is how I'd describe pretty much all his figures.
With someone like Sting, you should keep making figures till you get it right, and then make as many as you can from there. Mattel did the bare minimum and let it go at that. Imagine if all AJ Style's figures were like his first few releases. They'd shelfwarm even harder.
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Post by Warriah' on Dec 4, 2020 10:09:26 GMT -5
I think they did on the Surfer Stings for sure. GAB 90 was awful due to the head and scan. Then we got the BAB 96 which nobody was ever asking for. We finally get a decent one, but it’s GAB 91. That isn’t even a top match of his let alone an attire. I always chalked it up to the guys who run the WWE figs for Mattel just weren’t WCW/NWA fans growing up and didn’t really know which ones should be made. Plus I’ve heard Sting liked the Crow gimmick better and that might have been part of it as well. He was surprised a few years ago at the positive reaction he got for when he dressed up as Surfer for Starrcast. As mentioned, he should of had as many figs as Savage and Warrior in the Surfer look. Honestly his BATB 96 era look is my absolute favourite look he ever had so I am really happy the figure got made
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Post by Warriah' on Dec 4, 2020 10:12:28 GMT -5
I think they did on the Surfer Stings for sure. GAB 90 was awful due to the head and scan. Then we got the BAB 96 which nobody was ever asking for. We finally get a decent one, but it’s GAB 91. That isn’t even a top match of his let alone an attire. I always chalked it up to the guys who run the WWE figs for Mattel just weren’t WCW/NWA fans growing up and didn’t really know which ones should be made. Plus I’ve heard Sting liked the Crow gimmick better and that might have been part of it as well. He was surprised a few years ago at the positive reaction he got for when he dressed up as Surfer for Starrcast. As mentioned, he should of had as many figs as Savage and Warrior in the Surfer look. Whether it's a call by the design team or something coming from WWE, it's pretty clear WCW figures take a back seat. There are more figures from Luger's short WWF run than from his years in WCW. It's laughable how few Elites Flair has, and again I think you can argue they better represent his WWF run than his years as the cornerstone of WCW. At least the basics are more WCW-centric. Diesel has been remade a few times in recent years, while it's been a few years now since a WCW Nash. It is what it is. But it's disappointing how modest my WCW shelf is compared to the shelves and shelves of WWE figures I have from the same eras. In fairness where Luger is concerned, his USA and Narcissist attires are a lot more toyetic than the plain trunk wcw looks he had. He's also pretty accomplished in his WWF run. He won the Royal Rumble, he main evented Summerslam 93 (and kinda Wrestlemania X).
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Dec 4, 2020 10:29:14 GMT -5
If a picture is worth a thousand words then this sums up Mattel’s handling of Sting perfectly
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Post by MKSavage on Dec 4, 2020 10:44:44 GMT -5
I think they did on the Surfer Stings for sure. GAB 90 was awful due to the head and scan. Then we got the BAB 96 which nobody was ever asking for. We finally get a decent one, but it’s GAB 91. That isn’t even a top match of his let alone an attire. I always chalked it up to the guys who run the WWE figs for Mattel just weren’t WCW/NWA fans growing up and didn’t really know which ones should be made. Plus I’ve heard Sting liked the Crow gimmick better and that might have been part of it as well. He was surprised a few years ago at the positive reaction he got for when he dressed up as Surfer for Starrcast. As mentioned, he should of had as many figs as Savage and Warrior in the Surfer look. Honestly his BATB 96 era look is my absolute favourite look he ever had so I am really happy the figure got made Not a favorite attire of his for me but, I did like the 3-pack set of the Bash at the Beach 96 guys. I would have liked a 3-pack of Hogan, Hall and Nash from that event as well.
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Post by crush on Dec 4, 2020 11:00:32 GMT -5
It seems like the people defending Mattel point to the number of figures, but even the number isn't good enough to me, especially when all of them had glaring issues. Not every fan or poster here is young enough to remember/know, but Sting is one of the most popular wrestlers of all time. Not being a WWE guy for his entire career doesn't change that. From the late '80s to well into the 2000s he was top 3 in each organization he worked for, if not the top guy. That deserved at least twice as many figures as he got, and it even more so deserved better figure treatment. GAB blue Elite Sting and the neon green Basic are so awful they should be erased from history. Even DM Crow, which is good, had a tiny torso and ripped Warrior-like arms. "Not accurate" is how I'd describe pretty much all his figures. With someone like Sting, you should keep making figures till you get it right, and then make as many as you can from there. Mattel did the bare minimum and let it go at that. Imagine if all AJ Style's figures were like his first few releases. They'd shelfwarm even harder. I love Sting, I grew up with Sting, I wish the parts choices on Sting's figures (surfers in particular) should have been better. that said, 30 Sting figures in 5 years would haven been beyond overkill.
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Post by cordless2016 on Dec 4, 2020 11:09:30 GMT -5
The best surfer Sting we got was a basic...and even that had a bobble head and the wrong torso.
Yes, Mattel dropped the ball on Sting like they have with so many other legends as well.
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Post by Warriah' on Dec 4, 2020 11:21:22 GMT -5
Honestly his BATB 96 era look is my absolute favourite look he ever had so I am really happy the figure got made Not a favorite attire of his for me but, I did like the 3-pack set of the Bash at the Beach 96 guys. I would have liked a 3-pack of Hogan, Hall and Nash from that event as well. My only issue with the set is Luger's boots being the wrong colour. But I love that entire pack. It's one of those things you don't expect to ever see get made, and I love stuff like that. A matching 3 pack of the NWO to complement it would just be gravy
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Post by warriorheart on Dec 4, 2020 11:35:25 GMT -5
I think they did on the Surfer Stings for sure. GAB 90 was awful due to the head and scan. Then we got the BAB 96 which nobody was ever asking for. We finally get a decent one, but it’s GAB 91. That isn’t even a top match of his let alone an attire. I always chalked it up to the guys who run the WWE figs for Mattel just weren’t WCW/NWA fans growing up and didn’t really know which ones should be made. Plus I’ve heard Sting liked the Crow gimmick better and that might have been part of it as well. He was surprised a few years ago at the positive reaction he got for when he dressed up as Surfer for Starrcast. As mentioned, he should of had as many figs as Savage and Warrior in the Surfer look. Whether it's a call by the design team or something coming from WWE, it's pretty clear WCW figures take a back seat. There are more figures from Luger's short WWF run than from his years in WCW. It's laughable how few Elites Flair has, and again I think you can argue they better represent his WWF run than his years as the cornerstone of WCW. At least the basics are more WCW-centric. Diesel has been remade a few times in recent years, while it's been a few years now since a WCW Nash. It is what it is. But it's disappointing how modest my WCW shelf is compared to the shelves and shelves of WWE figures I have from the same eras. Agreed on all points.
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