Mastermind
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Post by Mastermind on Nov 19, 2007 10:48:57 GMT -5
i believe it has somewhat..but there are other factors that i believe help with making it less entertaining .and also makes ratings go down.no competition on monday night(which brought out the best).too many ppvs, its just so many things that we spend money on and thats all they worry about..i used to never skip a monday night raw..if friends wanted me to go somewhere on a monday i wouldnt go...nowdays i sometimes dont stick around to watch it..but i still like it.
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Wago
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Post by Wago on Nov 19, 2007 10:53:45 GMT -5
The reasons WWE are not exciting are not the internet, though they do ruin some suprises. Lack of star power. Rubbish story lines. Writers are that bad they deserve to die of super aids. Its like aids, but super! Anyway I think they need to build on some new guys and push them when the oppurtunity strikes.
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Post by addam on Nov 19, 2007 11:05:12 GMT -5
i'd have to agree with that. both directly and indirectly, the internet has made wrestling not as 'fun' as it used to be.
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Post by ljs on Nov 19, 2007 11:15:12 GMT -5
TBH, I came looking for answers to wrestling, found them and ruined wrestling. But if it wasn't for the internet, I wouldn't have found out how to animate or found the totally awesome chikara. It has pro's and con's.
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Post by addam on Nov 19, 2007 11:17:05 GMT -5
Everyone else in this thread have come up with better theories than the original poster. I don't read spoilers that doesn't save me from a bland product, so scripted and "plastic" (as one person put it) than ever before. Everyone should do themselves a favor. Read a book, see a play, bring some other culture to your life because the longer you support this company as a major source of your entertainment, you only become the stereotype that everyone else has of wrestling fans. how bout i just put on a dress, chop off my penis & call it a day. nah, but really, wwe isn't a MAJOR source of my entertainment. i watch raw on monday & that's about it. and what do you mean that you become a stereotype that everyone has of wrestling fans? i have to go see a play so people won't think ill of me. that's silly, why would i try to look better in peoples eyes that i don't even know & they know nothing about me? and why would i care what kind of stereotype people apply to me anyways? i've got way more important things to worry about in life than if i could possibly become a stereotypical wrestling fan (whatever that is) to some people...who those people would be, i have no idea, but still, i don't see your point.
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Post by dtldiva on Nov 19, 2007 12:24:11 GMT -5
I have to disagree on that one because to me WWE is not as entertaining because everything is just so predictable and there's no element of surprise anymore. I mean I can watch daytime TV and see more unexpected storylines than in WWE. The creative team just needs to get their act together, put their heads together and actually come up with some good storylines and keep us entertained.
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Post by mercennario1080 on Nov 19, 2007 12:28:27 GMT -5
i wouldn't say the internet ruined any of my fun
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Post by HHH316 on Nov 19, 2007 13:32:24 GMT -5
I think the 'net is part of the reason, but I think the other is the fact that we have more HOLLYWOOD writers writing the storylines & less "wrestling" minds
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Post by addam on Nov 19, 2007 13:56:30 GMT -5
I have to disagree on that one because to me WWE is not as entertaining because everything is just so predictable and there's no element of surprise anymore. I mean I can watch daytime TV and see more unexpected storylines than in WWE. The creative team just needs to get their act together, put their heads together and actually come up with some good storylines and keep us entertained. don't you think that things are more predictable tho because people discuss every possible outcome there could be on here so it seems more predictable? whereas if you just watched the show with no other information on the wwe between shows you would be more surprised?
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flying-shorty
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Post by flying-shorty on Nov 19, 2007 14:45:13 GMT -5
I mean Jericho is a prime example of the net spoiling a surprise! Altho I think the WWE didnt help themselves too much like putting him on the front of wwe magazine!
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 19, 2007 15:06:04 GMT -5
You're going to blame the Internet for the state of the WWE and it's lack of entertaining storylines? Really? I don't know how to break it to you, but spoilers have nothing to do with the inherent entertainment value associated with a product. How many successful movies came from bestselling books, after all? If the spoilers were to have something great in them; a great angle or a fantastic match, it doesn't matter if we know it's coming or not, we'll still watch because we want to see it for ourselves. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened in awhile, so no, spoilers in and of themselves have no bearing on the product. Nice try though.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Nov 19, 2007 15:08:34 GMT -5
No its the roster, look at the 2001 roster:
Benoit Eddie Malenko Jericho Rock austin Undertaker Kane with mask Triple H Mick foley Tazz........
Who do we have now..
Just getting Jericho HBK MVP Kennedy HHH Hardy Orton Undertaker
That's about it
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Post by youngniles on Nov 19, 2007 15:12:37 GMT -5
I dont really agree due to the fact that theres 2 different situations. Peoples speculation, and actual true spoilers. Ive read false speculations and false spoilers. Its our fault for reading them. Even then, we still get a great sense of energy when that big "Return" comes, or a new champion is revealed..Although the internet may sometimes give away the excitment, its our fault for viewing it.But I Myself, read spoilers, and still get excited, so it may just depend on the persons feelings towards this situation.
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Post by addam on Nov 19, 2007 15:15:56 GMT -5
You're going to blame the Internet for the state of the WWE and it's lack of entertaining storylines? Really? I don't know how to break it to you, but spoilers have nothing to do with the inherent entertainment value associated with a product. How many successful movies came from bestselling books, after all? If the spoilers were to have something great in them; a great angle or a fantastic match, it doesn't matter if we know it's coming or not, we'll still watch because we want to see it for ourselves. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened in awhile, so no, spoilers in and of themselves have no bearing on the product. Nice try though. yes they do. sorry, but equating a book being made into a movie and the wwe internet spoiler situation is not a valid comparison. they are both forms of entertainment sure, but they are very different forms of entertainment & the rules of 1 don't apply to the other. when you're talking about a book being made into a movie that's one form of entertainment being made into another so there's an inherent crossover value so regardless of whether you know the story you get to see it presented in a different medium. with wrestling spoilers they tell you what's going to happen beforehand. there is no crossover to add entertainment value, it just is what it is. nice try though.
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Post by gunnerbri on Nov 19, 2007 15:51:53 GMT -5
The internet does ruin alot of the surprises for us. But we're the idiots who like to click on those little spoilers. You don't have to click on anything, they're scattered about all over the ing place.
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Post by fallenhero on Nov 19, 2007 15:58:54 GMT -5
I think we would know that Cena would never lose a match at a ppv where his title was on the line. No, you wouldn't. Things would be far less predictable because you couldn't just run to your PC and find out what was going to happen. To say you could predict everything that would happened if the internet wouldn't have come about would be a complete joke.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Nov 19, 2007 17:19:00 GMT -5
I mean Jericho is a prime example of the net spoiling a surprise! Altho I think the WWE didnt help themselves too much like putting him on the front of wwe magazine! That was a surprise to you? I figured it out within seeing the first one. Sorry but they dropped so many clues stating it was Jericho. That was as about big of a surprise as Cena retaining. The only spoilers that even matter to me are the Smackdown and TNA ones, I usually try and catch the show anyway. The rest are always educated guesses and they're BS. Meltzer and those guys don't know crap. Their sources are ok for like some backstage info, beyond that they about as correct as Bush saying we're winning the war. How many times did they say when Jericho would return? What ruined wrestling to me was the special they aired on TV years ago showing how wrestling is done. Sure it was cheesy, but it was showing magic tricks. After that I was less into it. I blame the media attacking wrestling, not the internet. They always feel they have to expose how everything works. They left no mystery to it. I believe the internet helps wrestling to an extent. I would be even less into wrestling if I didn't have it. I like following indies and Japan, the internet allows me to keep up on it. I know results of the shows I buy, but I still buy them because they're good. Spoilers have no effect on me. It's the bad wrestling that does.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2007 17:54:14 GMT -5
Ive always said that tbh. The Internet has killed Wrestling.
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Post by class316 on Nov 19, 2007 18:16:02 GMT -5
Personally I never click on SD or TNA spoilers. Why ruin the enjoyment?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2007 18:39:06 GMT -5
There are several reasons why the WWE is not as entertaining as it used to be, but imho the most important one is that there is to much of it ! We have two hours of Raw and Smackdown every week and a ppv every month. There is absolutely no time for feuds to build any sense of purpose any more. I know it won't happen but I would love to see WWE go back to just four PPVs a year and also an end the brand split.
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