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Post by The Funniest Guy in Pants on Feb 22, 2008 20:33:15 GMT -5
I'm posting this in both the Entertainment and Video Game boards because it involves both movies and video games.
I know no one wants to hear about HD-VMD and I'm probably starting to sound like a broken record, but just hear me out....
All standard DVD players can play HD VMDs with a simple firmware upgrade. I think this leaves out most, if not all, standard DVD players because they can't access the internet, but this leaves all PCs, XBOX 360's (the consoles themselves, not just the HD-DVD add-ons), HD-DVD players and probably the PS3 and all future BR players (although I know that Sony would never allow it). That is a ton of possible HD VMD players already in the hands of consumers.
This could potentially be a huge blow to SDVDs and Blu-Ray, as long as they can get the content. If they are able to get the advantage of having that many players out there already, then I think studios might be more willing to consider releasing dual format again. I think most consumers would be more than happy to pay $18 for a full HD movie, as opposed to several hundred dollars for a BR player and then $40 a pop for each movie they want. And with the most expensive HD VMD player being half the price of the least expensive Blu-Ray player, that could certainly help move stand alone HD VMD players as well.
I'm not sure about the Wii since it can't play DVDs, but maybe some type of firmware upgrade could be possible. If so, then that would add even more HD VMD players.
And if the HD VMD people and Microsoft can reach some sort of deal, then M$ could start printing games on HD VMDs, which would give them roughly the same amount of space to work with as Blu-Ray discs. Plus the ability to play upconverted standard DVDs and HD VMDs at no extra cost to the people who already own 360s.
This would definitely be a major blow to Sony's game division, even if the HD VMD format never takes off. They could upconvert standard DVDs and take advantage of the higher storage space on the HD VMDs, allowing for bigger and better games. That could take nearly all the wind from the PS3's sails. And if the format were to take off, then I don't see how that couldn't be the death knoll for the PS3.
I know there is a very good chance that none of this will happen. But even if it doesn't, just realize that Blu-Ray isn't in the clear yet. Another format could easily come from behind and take control of the HD market. HD VMD just has the best chance right now, I just hope they see this opportunity and take advantage of it.
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Post by chumped on Feb 22, 2008 20:55:08 GMT -5
No.
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Post by The Boondock Syxx on Feb 22, 2008 21:47:51 GMT -5
there is no longer competition for blu ray it was defined as a winner so the general public will adopt it now
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Post by American Phenom on Feb 22, 2008 21:53:07 GMT -5
Lmfao.
Blu-ray won. It's over. It has all studio support. The war is over.
VMD can take their 5 GB discs and shove them up their ass. It isn't true High Definition and never will be.
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Post by jorge4903 on Feb 22, 2008 22:09:20 GMT -5
Blu ray has already been implanted into the publics brain as THE format for this generation, nothing will stop it at this point. Sorry.
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Post by Suckasays on Feb 22, 2008 22:19:46 GMT -5
I still think standard definition is the winner. I don't see it disappearing for quite a few more years.
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Post by Doomrider on Feb 22, 2008 22:24:55 GMT -5
Standard DVD and Blu-Ray will remain for at least 6-7 more years I think...maybe even more.
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Post by The Funniest Guy in Pants on Feb 23, 2008 0:07:19 GMT -5
Lmfao. Blu-ray won. It's over. It has all studio support. The war is over. VMD can take their 5 GB discs and shove them up their ass. It isn't true High Definition and never will be. They aren't 5GB discs. We've been through this before. And, yeah it is HD. 1080p is 1080p, right? You can keep posting bullcrap all you want, that won't make it any less untrue. Blu ray has already been implanted into the publics brain as THE format for this generation, nothing will stop it at this point. Sorry. Just because HD-DVD is gone doesn't mean that Blu-Ray is going to be the format choice of this generation. It's just too damn expensive for it to be adopted by everyone. Even though they look great, the extra cost doesn't justify switching over. $400+ just for the player, and then like $35-$40+ per movie. I've seen many movies that I love, but I don't think I've seen a movie good enough to justify spending $40. That's just insane. That's why I -- and MANY others -- believe that standard DVDs will remain the standard until the price of all things BR drastically drops or something else comes out and takes over for both formats. |
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Post by Stinger TNA on Feb 23, 2008 1:08:34 GMT -5
Why was American Gangster released on HD DVD though?
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Post by chumped on Feb 23, 2008 1:13:20 GMT -5
Why was American Gangster released on HD DVD though? It was made before the death of HD-DVD. They were promoting it a few weeks before the death, so I guess they just went with it. |
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Post by American Phenom on Feb 23, 2008 1:53:54 GMT -5
Lmfao. Blu-ray won. It's over. It has all studio support. The war is over. VMD can take their 5 GB discs and shove them up their ass. It isn't true High Definition and never will be. They aren't 5GB discs. We've been through this before. And, yeah it is HD. 1080p is 1080p, right? You can keep posting bull **** all you want, that won't make it any less untrue. Blu ray has already been implanted into the publics brain as THE format for this generation, nothing will stop it at this point. Sorry. Just because HD-DVD is gone doesn't mean that Blu-Ray is going to be the format choice of this generation. It's just too damn expensive for it to be adopted by everyone. Even though they look great, the extra cost doesn't justify switching over. $400+ just for the player, and then like $35-$40+ per movie. I've seen many movies that I love, but I don't think I've seen a movie good enough to justify spending $40. That's just insane. That's why I -- and MANY others -- believe that standard DVDs will remain the standard until the price of all things BR drastically drops or something else comes out and takes over for both formats. $35-40 per movie? I don't know where you're shopping. Just because you can't afford it, doesn't mean it sucks. My local Wal-Mart sells all Blu-rays from $20 to $30. No studio is stupid enough to switch to HD VMD. All the support is with Blu-ray and will stay that way. All the media is also advertising Blu-ray. HD DVD and HD VMD will rest in piece. |
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Post by dakotadave on Feb 23, 2008 2:39:56 GMT -5
If they are that cheap at Wal-Mart than they are ripping off their vendor; because anywhere else they are selling for $30-$50. And it doesnt matter how cheap the discs are; its the price that is the main complaint about Blu-Ray. Sure you kids maybe able to afford these machines because mommy and daddy may have bought you the PS3 TOY, but to Joe & Jane Average who work for a living, and have other bills to pay and with gas at $3.00 a gallon; no one can actually jump and buy a $400-$1000 over-rated BR player.
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Post by chumped on Feb 23, 2008 2:50:15 GMT -5
If they are that cheap at Wal-Mart than they are ripping off their vendor; because anywhere else they are selling for $30-$50. And it doesnt matter how cheap the discs are; its the price that is the main complaint about Blu-Ray. Sure you kids maybe able to afford these machines because mommy and daddy may have bought you the PS3 TOY, but to Joe & Jane Average who work for a living, and have other bills to pay and with gas at $3.00 a gallon; no one can actually jump and buy a $400-$1000 over-rated BR player. As usual, any credibility you thought you had, went out of the window, when you called the PS3 a toy, yet again. And I love when people say "us hard working guys with jobs cant afford it". How in the  do you think parents afford it for their kids? They WORK for it. Half of you mother ers must have the deadest of dead end jobs, if you can never afford anything. |
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Feb 23, 2008 2:53:06 GMT -5
If they are that cheap at Wal-Mart than they are ripping off their vendor; because anywhere else they are selling for $30-$50. And it doesnt matter how cheap the discs are; its the price that is the main complaint about Blu-Ray. Sure you kids maybe able to afford these machines because mommy and daddy may have bought you the PS3 TOY, but to Joe & Jane Average who work for a living, and have other bills to pay and with gas at $3.00 a gallon; no one can actually jump and buy a $400-$1000 over-rated BR player. As usual, any credibility you thought you had, went out of the window, when you called the PS3 a toy, yet again. And I love when people say "us hard working guys with jobs cant afford it". How in the do you think parents afford it for their kids? They WORK for it. Half of you mother ers must have the deadest of dead end jobs, if you can never afford anything. "I can't afford it." Usually code for "my preference tanked and I am too stubborn/cheap to shell it out for the better product." |
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Post by T R W on Feb 23, 2008 2:58:36 GMT -5
Moxt of the movies I see are about $30. The difference in quality to me isn't worth the price difference.
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Post by dakotadave on Feb 23, 2008 3:27:24 GMT -5
If they are that cheap at Wal-Mart than they are ripping off their vendor; because anywhere else they are selling for $30-$50. And it doesnt matter how cheap the discs are; its the price that is the main complaint about Blu-Ray. Sure you kids maybe able to afford these machines because mommy and daddy may have bought you the PS3 TOY, but to Joe & Jane Average who work for a living, and have other bills to pay and with gas at $3.00 a gallon; no one can actually jump and buy a $400-$1000 over-rated BR player. As usual, any credibility you thought you had, went out of the window, when you called the PS3 a toy, yet again. And I love when people say "us hard working guys with jobs cant afford it". How in the do you think parents afford it for their kids? They WORK for it. Half of you mother ers must have the deadest of dead end jobs, if you can never afford anything. No! this means that we have lives and we don't and can't blow our money on every new dealy-wacker that comes on the market. Y'all kids may have parents that bought you a PS3 TOY (YES; IT'S A TOY...If you've ever worked in retail like I have...IT'S IN THE TOY CATEGORY) thats all well and good, but that doesn't mean that everyone can afford them. If they were the price of the HD-DVD players...YES, but not at the price they are now. |
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Post by No Brokeback on Feb 23, 2008 3:34:33 GMT -5
...I don't consider PS3 a toy at all, and I think it's stupid as heck to consider it a toy, no matter where a store has it under. Computers, are they all toys? I mean, c'mon, you just seem to hate it for no real reason other than price..
I don't mind Blu-ray, I don't have any of the movies, but I like it. Actually, I've never seen an HD movie, only Blu-ray, so
actually it doesn't matter.
Stop complaining. Ps3's aren't toys.
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Post by T R W on Feb 23, 2008 3:44:14 GMT -5
Having worked many years in retail management in the past, video games were always categorized in electronics, not toys.
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Post by Raoul the Great on Feb 23, 2008 3:45:59 GMT -5
Yes, nothing can stop the public from running out and buying all new Blu-Ray HD formats... except the massive economic recession we are entering. The public just doesn't have the money to run out an buy all new formats. I have said this all along. You will all see.
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Post by chumped on Feb 23, 2008 3:56:40 GMT -5
As usual, any credibility you thought you had, went out of the window, when you called the PS3 a toy, yet again. And I love when people say "us hard working guys with jobs cant afford it". How in the do you think parents afford it for their kids? They WORK for it. Half of you mother ers must have the deadest of dead end jobs, if you can never afford anything. No! this means that we have lives and we don't and can't blow our money on every new dealy-wacker that comes on the market. Y'all kids may have parents that bought you a PS3 TOY (YES; IT'S A TOY...If you've ever worked in retail like I have...IT'S IN THE TOY CATEGORY) thats all well and good, but that doesn't mean that everyone can afford them. If they were the price of the HD-DVD players...YES, but not at the price they are now. Are you that ing stupid? All video games are in electronics, not toys. |
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