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Post by RedDevil on Apr 24, 2024 19:12:55 GMT -5
What is the incentive for Jesse Ventura? He is already in the Hall of Fame. Does he do conventions? If so, then a new generation of action figures with a company that has the distribution Mattel has would open-up new items for him to sign - potentially a nice little side benefit to whatever he'd get directly from WWE. And I'd love a Jesse Retro, please and thank you
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 24, 2024 18:24:40 GMT -5
That head sculpt really is beautiful
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 21, 2024 9:35:27 GMT -5
Didn’t they already sculpt PastaMania Hulk for the Nitro stage? Could be that we see it here. No, that was Nitro debut Hogan I think. IIRC Mattel said they tried for Pastamania but didn't work-out.
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 10, 2024 17:21:52 GMT -5
I would buy a retro pack of the Mania 40 main event in a flash. we need the Final Boss. It’s that Final Boss Rock that really has me thinking about this WrestleMania bundle idea - it’s such a great look for him; I’ve rewatched the end of the title match so many times over the last few days, especially him marching down to confront Cena looking like a million dollars - this latest run has managed to lift his legend even higher, which is insane to think about. Thinking about the potential bundle, Mattel probably wouldn’t need to invest that much in the tooling given what they have already. Assuming all four guys get new heads (Roman’s series 1 head could potentially be reused, but it’s 8 years old at this point so should be a new head), then they could do: -Roman: basically the series 1 but without the Shield top, so switch with the Billy Gunn/Jerry Lawler body, assuming they fit with the series 1 legs and arms, which I assume they would. This figure recipe seems cheap enough to throw in an accessory like his red Samoan necklace (no idea if this has a traditional name, no offence intended if it does) - that piece already exists in the Elite/Ultimate lines so no new tooling needed. -Heyman: I mean this is clearly the Paul Bearer version of the manager body. I’d like them to have the belt as well to go with him, which they’d perhaps do in the Hasbro style that they showed with the winged eagle at Mania, so that would need new tooling. -Cody: either the clothesline action or the Mr T Tornado spin - seems easy. How do the Elite/Ultimate weight belts fit on Retros? If well then that’s another potential accessory that wouldn’t need new tooling that the budget saving on the figure could allow. -The Rock: First I thought Ambrose would be a good base, but now I think Elias would be better since the hand grips would allow him to whip the ‘Mama Rhodes’ weight belt (assuming they fit the Retros well, like I asked about above with Cody). The waistcoat/vest will definitely be made for the Elite/Ultimate lines soon, so there’s another piece that wouldn’t require unique tooling from the Retros budget to include on the figure. The existing bundles cost $60 I think, so make the made-to-order price here $70 to provide insurance if the orders don’t meet expectations and you’ve got something to offer Retros collectors as well as modern day collectors who are paying $25 or whatever for Elites and over $30 for Ultimates - they’ll think they’re getting a bargain with four figures for $70
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 10, 2024 16:57:58 GMT -5
ECW would be a great bundle, and one that I think most collectors of our vintage would be excited about. I think some combo of these guys in a Ringside ECW 4-pack makes a lot of sense, and fits with the era of Retros that Ringside has been selling. Based on the comments from Bill and Steve about The Great Muta, I can also see him getting a Retro. Maybe an early WCW 4-pack with Muta, Steiner Brothers, and Paul E. Dangerously? That may be wishful thinking. Or Muta, Ricky Steamboat, Stunning Steve Austin, and Paul E? That would be a fun set - with Pillman back under contract then we could see both of the Hollywood Blondes in a bundle, or a Flyin’ Brian in tribute to the Galoob!
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 10, 2024 9:38:32 GMT -5
For me, anything post Attitude is a push. I was a fan and collected ljn and hasbro, watched the attitude era and switched off around 2001! Haven't watched any wrestling since, only documentaries about the early eras! I'm a nostalgia collector so only that era interests me, I think mattel also realised this with there recent direction with retros. I started with the Hasbros, but otherwise that covers me as well perfectly. After the Invasion fell flat then I suddenly found myself missing shows and not being that bothered, which never happened before. Only guys like Jericho, Eddie, Benoit, Angle, etc., were keeping me interested as Austin and Rock were gone, etc., but I stopped completely cold turkey when Orton won the belt at SummerSlam '04. Mattel have it right now in terms of their focus (though the mid-80s stuff could maybe do with a bit of a rest), but I'm not opposed to an extra set with more current talent - if not the WrestleMania match set idea then a two-pack with Dusty and Cody would be the obvious example, Rock and Roman another one.
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 10, 2024 9:33:09 GMT -5
This may be a stretch, but could they do an ECW 4 pack? We have WCW and WWF/E from that era so getting a set of ECW guys would be awesome, I just don't know if they would have access to the characters to pull this off. RVD Taz Sabu Sandman that would probably be my dream ECW four pack, but we know for a fact Taz will be off limits. This may be a stretch, but could they do an ECW 4 pack? We have WCW and WWF/E from that era so getting a set of ECW guys would be awesome, I just don't know if they would have access to the characters to pull this off. RVD Taz Sabu Sandman that would probably be my dream ECW four pack, but we know for a fact Taz will be off limits. I can totally see Ringside doing an ECW 4 pack. Maybe Dudley Boyz, RVD, and Sandman. Dudleyz gear could be tricky thou. Bubba Ray Dudley using Kevin Owen’s upper body with Vader legs or KO’s whole body D-Von Dudley using Roman’s body/legs and arms. Hmm that’s more WWE RVD having the double spinning clothesline with AJ’ legs Sandman using the Elias setup and including a cane ECW would be a great bundle, and one that I think most collectors of our vintage would be excited about.
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 10, 2024 9:30:17 GMT -5
Modern talent could hurt the line. Some people that are currently completionist for the line might not buy them and once they don't buy one set they might pick and choose what other ones they want. Someone that really only wants 90s figures that is buying the 80s ones because they are buying all of them might stop buying the 80s ones after they don't buy the modern ones. If you don't have all of them you don't need any of them is a mind set that some people have. I don't think they should do modern talent until they are running out of past wrestlers to make. You make a good point, and one that fits with me as a completist very well: I fought quite hard to keep my Ultimate Edition collection complete right up until Mattel started giving exclusives to Walmart without an international outlet in place - as we all know Walmart kill lines, so I tapped-out immediately from my complete collection upon hearing the news, and haven't yet bought another Ultimate Edition figure since then as I now no longer need to get them all to maintain the complete collection; I can be selective. Ironically the one figure they've released recently that I would've selected to get is, you guessed it, exclusive to Walmart It's interesting to think about if similar would apply to the Retros, or at least the extent to which it would apply. The original series obviously had modern guys (way too many) but there will have been some completists who weren't buying them for another reason than completing the line. A one-off set with well chosen current names might be a good balance, but they can't replace the current limited releases we are getting, they would have to be supplementary to the existing releases.
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 8, 2024 18:58:43 GMT -5
Obviously still just on a high from last night, but based on the recent debate in the thread about adding current guys to the line with the brilliant suggestion of using this year's WrestleMania line-up, I'd love it if Mattel Creations could've announced a made-to-order Retros set based on the main event: -The Rock (Final Boss) -Roman Reigns (Tribal Chief) -Paul Heyman -Cody Rhodes Could sub-in Rollins for Heyman to do the night 1 tag match, but I think the title match is the one to commemorate, plus Heyman appeals more to the Hasbro generation (could throw-in an ECW hat, though he really needs the modern belt for this set so might not be in budget). The Rock needs to be in the waistcoat attire from his appearance in the title match, ideally with the weight belt but then Cody would probably need his as well so that would probably sink the budget. Roman also has the history from the first series of the line, and Cody obviously the family history. A lot wouldn't buy it due to their own collecting rules, but the emotion from last night might have made it a nice experiment if Mattel could move that quick. I think any current wrestlers would be a welcome addition and spice things up. said it before but apart from a few that just want 1980's wrestlers most of us would love it. its no coincidence that most people didn't like or want nikoli / bob orton / richer / (apart from being first female) ali etc. how could a cody / roman / punk / fiend for example not sell better than wendy ritcher etc. Im all for legends and defo keep them coming but the roster atm is fire. Most of the hasbro era is done anyway (defo some updates and new attires would be welcome) so i would love more attitude era / new gen. when i say current just to be clear i dont mean baron corbin lol i mean the 15-20 hot players. You make an excellent point about the quality of the talent chosen regardless of timeframe. It’s pretty safe to assume that the children who collected the Hasbros at the time were largely still fans at least during the Attitude Era when the WWF was at its peak, but after that then you get onto less secure ground in respect to the main audience for the line, so for example an Evolution bundle when Mattel next have access to Flair would likely go down better than a generic Ruthless Aggression set. The key is that any collection with current guys doesn’t show-up in the existing Mattel Creations schedule since we only get two a year and obviously legends are the right focus for the line, but a made-to-order bundle with something as big as the WrestleMania main event featuring arguably the biggest WWE star ever could be interesting if the WWE team could get cooperation from the Mattel Creations team. The Ringside sets might have more flexibility, but still should be legends if they have another avenue for current talent.
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 8, 2024 8:23:24 GMT -5
Obviously still just on a high from last night, but based on the recent debate in the thread about adding current guys to the line with the brilliant suggestion of using this year's WrestleMania line-up, I'd love it if Mattel Creations could've announced a made-to-order Retros set based on the main event:
-The Rock (Final Boss) -Roman Reigns (Tribal Chief) -Paul Heyman -Cody Rhodes
Could sub-in Rollins for Heyman to do the night 1 tag match, but I think the title match is the one to commemorate, plus Heyman appeals more to the Hasbro generation (could throw-in an ECW hat, though he really needs the modern belt for this set so might not be in budget). The Rock needs to be in the waistcoat attire from his appearance in the title match, ideally with the weight belt but then Cody would probably need his as well so that would probably sink the budget. Roman also has the history from the first series of the line, and Cody obviously the family history.
A lot wouldn't buy it due to their own collecting rules, but the emotion from last night might have made it a nice experiment if Mattel could move that quick.
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 7, 2024 14:36:40 GMT -5
It’s looking like the HBK/Yankem/Alundra/Bulldog set was the reveal and Brother Love is the “tease” Yeah, having the next set revealed was what I expected, the Brother Love tease was a great bonus but I don't think the current release avenues they have would've made announcing more sensible right now (though obviously I want to know everything immediately ).
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 7, 2024 14:30:49 GMT -5
Brother Love might not be a Mattel Creations release. Bill said they aren't saying how it is going to be available yet in the RSC tour. That bit was really interesting - could just be Bill being deadpan about them not expressly confirming the obvious that he'd be in the January Mattel Creations set, but certainly sounds like they're working on something distinct with Brother Love. Given we've just got a ring then I don't think we'll get another one with Brother Love being included, but what about if they are working on a "The Brother Love Show" interview playset? It's a rather basic set IIRC but could be a test for something more detailed later like the Funeral Parlour or the Barber Shop. That could be carried on Creations, like the ring is. Otherwise Brother Love might appear in the tag team series with Ringside, but not sure who he'd be paired with unless they release another early Undertaker; debut probably rather than the grey gloves as the Hasbro is definitive, but we don't really need another Taker from that timeframe IMHO. Could be another Retros line with another retailer, which would be exciting but with the reservation that they would need to be easily available internationally - so Amazon, WWE Shop, etc., but preferably not Target and certainly not Walmart!!
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 7, 2024 14:06:06 GMT -5
I always assumed RSC was going to do more exclusives. But the NWO set was heavily clearanced during Black Friday, and DX seems the same. So maybe they won't... Don't all the Ringside exclusives end-up in the sales after the initial buzz? I'm sure the latest Defining Moments set was in the same sale as the nWo were? Did the DM set get released before the nWo set came-out? Looking at the site now then it seems only Cody is sold-out from the DM set, with the remaining Bret and Shawn being quite cheap for exclusive Elites - I'm not sure it means too much, but someone who studies these things closer might be able to comment better? I expect we'll get the third tag team set announced at SDCC, but can't see us getting that set this year, unless they're working on tag team line-up with the Brother Love? In the walkthrough video when Bill speaks about the DX Retros then they say that the line does well and Bill mentions there being a "bunch of possibilities down the road", so hopefully there's substance behind that, though could just some general comments.
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 4, 2024 7:10:41 GMT -5
I know that Owen Hart would be a major missing piece, but does Mattel have all the rights that they could do a 97 Hart Foundation 4 pack on Ringside? Bret, Bulldog, Anvil & Pillman? I was pretty certain this was coming when it was announced Pillman was back under contract, but the choice of a short-hair Bulldog in the next set probably kills that hope now - given that they could've released another version of Davey Boy like the braids, New Gen face in shorts, Allied Powers, or even the later jeans look rather than the trunks look he had in the Hart Foundation, then I don't see them doing two such figures in quick succession. Maybe they'd want to do different bodies with moulded jackets which would then be different than the upcoming Bulldog, but I'd guess they'd rather use the same material they use for Mean Gene, Jimmy Hart, etc. I'm surprised they're not doing a Hart Foundation set, but Mattel will I'm sure have made a conscious decision not to do that and release that era Bulldog on his own, so who knows what went into that decision.
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 4, 2024 7:04:33 GMT -5
It’s def possible we dont see any reveals. The set revealed last week won’t be out till this fall, but maybe we get a peek at what comes after that. The next ringside set would be cool to see, and a manager set would be SWEET Yeah, I think you're right - unless they announce the Mattel Creations offerings are increasing in number (which they would've announced at the Creations reveals event itself surely?) then the Bulldog set will come-out in August, with the next set being out in January - it makes no sense to me to announce that set now when it's release would be 9 months away. Even announcing at SDCC is going to be a long wait until the set is released, like we have with the Bulldog set announcement. The next Ringside set might be a possibility, if the slightly earlier release of DX compared the nWo the year before was a sign that they'd be doing two sets per year going forward, but even so then I'd expect that announcement to come at SDCC. But this is a non-Mattel Creations release, so more chance than hearing about that than a Creations release given the recent Creations reveals event. Of course there's always the chance that they're going to expand the line to another outlet as well as Creations and Ringside - Amazon, WWE Shop, or back to Walmart and Target (hopefully not since they don't serve customers outside of the US, and are a nightmare in general who have killed the line once already); those kind of sets could be announced now, but I'm not expecting it.
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Post by RedDevil on Mar 25, 2024 8:19:58 GMT -5
looking forward to seeing it, just hope we can get some clarity on when they're going up for order, as the lineup so far looks spectacular These will go up at the end of April, last thing they want to do is show figures before they are ready for public viewing How are things looking for DDP now? Are we looking at pre-orders this week or later now?
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Post by RedDevil on Mar 23, 2024 17:04:31 GMT -5
This is the look he went with (for reference): http://instagram.com/p/C40n24yOl7j So much later this year? My wallet thanks you.My hope is that he will do the RR95 outfit at some point: I think he wore those trunks at Surivor Series 94', so they work for me. Yeah, I'd of probably prefered Rumble, but at least they were used on one of my favorite PPVs. So, did Bulldog recently resign with WWE? Or was he just non-exclusive? Wonder why such a push to get so many Davey's out in the past few months. Bulldog is I believe signed with the same agency that Macho and Andre are with who don't sign exclusive agreements for their talent (or something like that). Given all three have had WWE Legends contracts in the time they've been getting figures elsewhere then I'm surprised more aren't doing non-exclusive deals with WWE, but I'd guess those contracts are worth a lot less than the exclusive ones. Bret was said to have signed a massive WWE deal recently when he was being linked to FTR in AEW and he's someone you'd expect the independent companies to be battling over (Epic have certainly spoken about him being their dream signing). It'll be interesting to see if legends start taking "breaks" from their WWE Legends deals now there's money to be made outside the WWE umbrella.
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Post by RedDevil on Mar 22, 2024 19:07:09 GMT -5
My thoughts on the pack: HBK: I think we all expected a puncher HBK sooner or later; I thought they might have him in a second “Orange Card” set with a few other missing Hasbro pieces, but I’m happy they haven’t used the same ‘92 white and red gear that the Hasbro had. I don’t think I would’ve picked this look from all the options he wore in the early to mid-90s, but it’s a memorable look so fine. The face looks better than the original Retro but I’ll need to have it in hand to really judge. Alundra: Another one we all expected sooner or later, the only question was if she was still available under contract. The existing figure is perfect for her obviously, but I do think they need to introduce another female body soon as we now have three with the same action and pose. I wonder if including the Women’s title was ever a possibility? I really want to start seeing the belts appear in the line. Isaac: Perfect. Great choice of character to include, as well as the action and the accessory. Bulldog: Good to see Davey Boy in the official line. I guess this era was always the most likely for Mattel to go for, but I do wish it was the face shorts Bulldog first, particularly to go with the HBK. I guess we’ll never see that now from Mattel, but Mitch is at least going there, plus the Allied Powers look was one of the original Chella designs which I think Epic are still pursuing so it’s not like we’ll miss them overall. I agree with those who still have reservations about the body action; I’d prefer the Brock version of the slam to get some use but I don’t hate this one. Another thing though is that I guess going for short-hair Bulldog here means that they likely won’t be doing a Hart Foundation set with the four guys they have access to, which is a big disappointment personally. So overall I’m happy; or at least as happy as any Retros collector ever is! I had called for an Attitude Era/Monday Night War set with X-Pac to line-up next to DX, but New Generation is the era I’d like Mattel to focus more on so I thank them for their work here. Now just expand the Creations line to four sets a year and we’ll be set
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Post by RedDevil on Mar 22, 2024 17:04:36 GMT -5
Have we seen anyone other than the Major Pod say that these are coming-out this Spring? I didn’t see the reveal but haven’t seen anyone else say Spring; the traditional timeline would be the Summer so Spring would be big news. I thought they said ‘later this year’ for the retros which I’m guessing is summer. The CC set is fall and the 70s legends pack they said would be spring. Thanks; I’d expect them to make a bigger deal about it if they were launching in the spring or expanding the line to four sets a year so the normal summer release it is then. Can’t see them revealing any more Retros before SDCC in that case as these will already be five months away.
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Post by RedDevil on Mar 22, 2024 16:46:42 GMT -5
Have we seen anyone other than the Major Pod say that these are coming-out this Spring? I didn’t see the reveal but haven’t seen anyone else say Spring; the traditional timeline would be the Summer so Spring would be big news.
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