guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Oct 13, 2021 11:21:11 GMT -5
Agreed. In addition, Chella is nailing in on announcement to actually release. ZST can announce signings and show drawings but from concept art and in hand product Chella is delivering and keeps getting better and product is improving each release. This line of figures is so impressive. I guess that’s one potential issue in releasing a whole series of 5 together at one time - if there was an issue then it could potentially affect the whole series. Whereas Chella are releasing one at a time, which might give the time in between each release to iron out any kinks/issues before the next release 🤷🏻♂️ And in no way meaning to derail this thread, but anyone else feel like one of the other retro figure providers keeps seeming to take shots at Chella (or someone else) for some reason? “So glad we chose a dedicated factory with over four decades of experience that specializes in creating collectibles for many of the top toy manufacturers throughout the world and not some cheap on demand print service” Maybe I’m just reading too much into it and more than was intended; but it’s the 2nd or 3rd time that he’s come across as throwing shade…. He 100% is. And he's not necessarily wrong with what he's saying. I'm sure the way he says it will rub people with thin-skin the wrong way, but whatever. I've actually been in contact (by complete happenstance for a non-wrestling related project through work) with the people in Asia who produce Chella's figures. They actually showed me Aldis as one of their samples of work without me knowing they produced Chella's figures. I learned quite a bit about their process. Literally anybody with a drawing and money can produce what they want with this company. The company Chella uses is in fact a direct to print model as Zombie mentioned (which explains why that indie dude nobody heard about was able to get a low run figure through Chella). Chella doesn't provide them with anything except the "blueprints" they post on their socials. The company in Asia then creates the 3D model for Chella. They really don't do physical prototypes which would explain why some things get lost in translation from the sketch to final model (looking at that squashed Bull Nakano face. Though to be fair, the height of her hair may have exceeded the limit of how tall the head could be and created a "squashed" effect, but I really don't know for sure as that's speculation on my part). It's a much cheaper and quicker way to produce figures than the way Zombie is doing it, but you do lose a little bit of control with what you're doing - which is ultimately why I couldn't convince the client to use this company.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Oct 11, 2021 12:54:13 GMT -5
I was able to snag an extra Sabu. Now, I decided not to pay my water bill as I only had an $50 in my account, but the investment is surely going to bring me at least $1K in the future. I can go without water for a month to play the long game.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Oct 6, 2021 16:29:26 GMT -5
Don't use Smart Post. I've had packages regularly show up on the tracking in my city and then go to a city further away before being delivered. It's almost like they do it on purpose.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Oct 1, 2021 14:41:40 GMT -5
Not really. I asked him a simple question. The point I was making: he wanted to point out how Chella had more figures released thus far and used that as some kind of barometer to talk smack on ZST. He completely neglected/ignored the fact that Chella has a 6-Month head start on ZST when they announced their respective lines. He's also ignoring the fact that ZST will be releasing 5 figures at once as opposed to Chella's business model of trickling out 1 figure at a time. Neither business model is "wrong", they're just different. His critique is completely based on bias and has no validity when you deal with the actual facts of the situation. It's not an accusation - there was a video of him doing so which I shared in another thread. The video was then shared with the dude's local authorities and investigation was opened. IF they have a contract, this would be be considered an ethics violation under any standard contract. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm sorry some of you feel slighted by ZTS past actions, but as someone who watched most of it played out from afar, almost everyone involved played a part in the way he reacted. At the end of the day, y'all got your International shipping. A bunch of us told you to wait and see. Let things play out. Well when it finally played out, it was all for nothing. He made the International shipping happen. ZTS is a unique dude. He plays a character on his socials and some of you take it way too seriously. It's not for everyone, that's cool. But when you start throwing shade about how his business is run using incorrect facts, don't be surprised if someone calls you out on it. With that said, I'm going to excuse myself from posting in this thread any further. This isn’t a chella v zombie thing - but since you brought up chella announced their line 6 months before and their figure was out December 2020 and zombie is saying his series 1 will likely arrive feb 2022 that timescale is much larger than 6 months Last thing.... Chella: Announced July 2020. To date, we have 4 figures over a 14 month time span. ZTS: Announced January 2021. 5 figures projected to be released 13 months after announcement. They're literally on almost exact same trajectory for the amount of figures released in their first 14 months. In fact, if ZTS pushes out JJ before March, he'll have released more figures in that time period. My point being, if Zombie took it one figure at a time, he'd probably already have a figure or two out by now.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Oct 1, 2021 13:27:33 GMT -5
Oh dear…looks like some folk are trying to turn this into an argument & get another thread shut down…. Not really. I asked him a simple question. The point I was making: he wanted to point out how Chella had more figures released thus far and used that as some kind of barometer to talk smack on ZST. He completely neglected/ignored the fact that Chella has a 6-Month head start on ZST when they announced their respective lines. He's also ignoring the fact that ZST will be releasing 5 figures at once as opposed to Chella's business model of trickling out 1 figure at a time. Neither business model is "wrong", they're just different. His critique is completely based on bias and has no validity when you deal with the actual facts of the situation. Wait so chella are supposed to breach contract just because some guy online randomly throws an accusation out there? Good lord. It's not an accusation - there was a video of him doing so which I shared in another thread. The video was then shared with the dude's local authorities and investigation was opened. IF they have a contract, this would be be considered an ethics violation under any standard contract. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm sorry some of you feel slighted by ZTS past actions, but as someone who watched most of it played out from afar, almost everyone involved played a part in the way he reacted. At the end of the day, y'all got your International shipping. A bunch of us told you to wait and see. Let things play out. Well when it finally played out, it was all for nothing. He made the International shipping happen. ZTS is a unique dude. He plays a character on his socials and some of you take it way too seriously. It's not for everyone, that's cool. But when you start throwing shade about how his business is run using incorrect facts, don't be surprised if someone calls you out on it. With that said, I'm going to excuse myself from posting in this thread any further.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Oct 1, 2021 9:29:09 GMT -5
Why do you keep bringing up ZTS unprovoked in the Chella thread? Seems to live rent-free in your head. Why does it bother you? Seems to me it's none of your business jack. Is this a private message? No. It's public message board, so I can respond to it as I see fit, "Jack". Especially when his critiques of ZST ignore the fact that Chella had a 6-month head start on ZTS. They SHOULD have more figures out than ZTS at this point. Basic facts matter if you want to make statements and try to stand behind them.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Oct 1, 2021 9:25:49 GMT -5
And because he's a piece of crap, trashing Chella. And Chella does business with a someone who publicly threatened a friend of mine with a firearm and completely ignored it when it brought up to them and they still continue to do business with him. They aren't perfect by any means.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Oct 1, 2021 9:22:52 GMT -5
Why do you keep bringing up ZTS unprovoked in the Chella thread? Seems to live rent-free in your head. Maybe cos he made out this is the “best figures ever” designed by a hasbro legend yet not one figure has reached anyone’s hands Tell me....when did Chella announce their line? Now...when did ZTS announce his line?
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Sept 30, 2021 17:13:05 GMT -5
Why do you keep bringing up ZTS unprovoked in the Chella thread? Seems to live rent-free in your head.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Sept 10, 2021 17:59:22 GMT -5
I just received the Chella Hayabusa. This is my 2nd Chella figure after the Aldis and the improvements are quite noticeable. The skintone looks much better. The feet are scaled correctly. The only minor critique I have, is the head may be a tad too small. But not enough to ruin the figure. How did you get Hayabusa so quick?! My pre order is still saying Feb 2022! Where did you order from? I ordered from Figure Collections which has it in stock. Ordered last week.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Sept 10, 2021 15:59:29 GMT -5
I just received the Chella Hayabusa. This is my 2nd Chella figure after the Aldis and the improvements are quite noticeable. The skintone looks much better. The feet are scaled correctly. The only minor critique I have, is the head may be a tad too small. But not enough to ruin the figure. theyre like 50$ they better be perfect $34.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Sept 10, 2021 13:08:33 GMT -5
I just received the Chella Hayabusa. This is my 2nd Chella figure after the Aldis and the improvements are quite noticeable. The skintone looks much better. The feet are scaled correctly. The only minor critique I have, is the head may be a tad too small. But not enough to ruin the figure.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Aug 30, 2021 9:32:27 GMT -5
It seems to me when the TrueFX registration is even slightly off, it ruins the figure when that wasn't necessarily the case with the old style of painting heads. There was more room for error on the old style of painting. Also, I noticed TrueFX has issues with facial hair - it sometimes will miss entire chunks of areas in beards/goatees. In general, to me the quality has been getting worse since it was introduced.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Aug 26, 2021 16:05:06 GMT -5
Get used to this folks - the world is going through a major shipping crisis and it's going to get worse before it gets better.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Aug 25, 2021 9:09:11 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with the re-using of the mold. He could have easily re-used the entire body and just have been done with it (much like Hasbro did after S2 with a lot of their offerings). Besides, OMG seemed to wear almost compression shirts under his singlet, so I don't think it will look strange at all. Don't forget, he'll be coming with a soft goods jacket as well, which will really complete the look.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Aug 24, 2021 16:52:37 GMT -5
Looks like he may have used the same torso mold from the King Kong Bundy. Can't quite tell 100%.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Aug 24, 2021 16:22:22 GMT -5
I'm assuming one of the new pics i see on Zombies Insta is One Man Gang, right? When did he wrestle in that type of gear? It almost looks something Brodus Clay wore. Or is that Brodus Clay? lol
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Aug 24, 2021 15:39:49 GMT -5
In regards to Owen, if a company gets a deal with his estate, they honestly could push the envelope pretty far on the IP issue if they're willing to take a chance. I just don't see a big publicly traded company suing a widow, who's husband's death they're responsible for, over a couple logos. It would be a really bad look on their part from an optics perspective. Could they? Yeah, for sure. Would they? I personally doubt it.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Aug 23, 2021 9:56:58 GMT -5
Yep and this is going to hit smaller companies like Chella, Zombie and Boss Fight even harder than bigger companies who will also feel the impact.
|
|
guster
Main Eventer
WF 15 Year Member
Joined on: Dec 23, 2001 10:56:51 GMT -5
Posts: 3,194
|
Post by guster on Aug 23, 2021 9:36:53 GMT -5
No - the WWE version of the nWo was a disaster except for maybe the one month leading to Mania X-8. After that, I'd rather just pretend that never happened.
|
|