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Post by deskjet on May 28, 2009 8:01:52 GMT -5
well i dont ;D. Ur prob right tho. could be the nba. Istill dont buy TNA is pullin in 1.2-1.3's It's a FACT TNA is getting 1.2 and 1.3 ratings. You are just an anti-TNA kid and you can except the fact that the company you hate is improving. wow, you totally pwned me there I like TNA, just don't believe that they are consistently pulling in these types of numbers(1.3), and it was based off of a time when storylines were pretty shoddy)ie-Empty arena match) Now, there are decent storylines(for now) and the ratings have dropped. I'll admit the playoffs have been good i just have my doubts about the valididty of the ratings. I could be in error tho. and please, you and everyone else dont come on here and try t act tuff and defend the product to me. I've been supporting/bashing it since day one. Point is TNA's base is 1.0-1.1...thats pretty sad for a company thats been around for 7 years. So they have spurts when people are bored and there's nothing else on tv to watch so they flip to some tna. these arguments about women, sting, foley, etc drawing ratings is irrelevant. You'll see consistent numbers when the writing is consistent.
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on May 28, 2009 17:42:57 GMT -5
It's a FACT TNA is getting 1.2 and 1.3 ratings. You are just an anti-TNA kid and you can except the fact that the company you hate is improving. wow, you totally pwned me there I like TNA, just don't believe that they are consistently pulling in these types of numbers(1.3), and it was based off of a time when storylines were pretty shoddy)ie-Empty arena match) Now, there are decent storylines(for now) and the ratings have dropped. I'll admit the playoffs have been good i just have my doubts about the valididty of the ratings. I could be in error tho. and please, you and everyone else dont come on here and try t act tuff and defend the product to me. I've been supporting/bashing it since day one. Point is TNA's base is 1.0-1.1...thats pretty sad for a company thats been around for 7 years. So they have spurts when people are bored and there's nothing else on tv to watch so they flip to some tna. these arguments about women, sting, foley, etc drawing ratings is irrelevant. You'll see consistent numbers when the writing is consistent. Very few television companies can say that they have a show that pulls anything over 1.0 every week. Look up the Neilson website for television ratings. You can just say you dont believe it, but if facts are being presented to your face, I can't help but not care whether you believe it or not.. it's fact.
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Post by deskjet on May 29, 2009 12:14:47 GMT -5
wow, you totally pwned me there I like TNA, just don't believe that they are consistently pulling in these types of numbers(1.3), and it was based off of a time when storylines were pretty shoddy)ie-Empty arena match) Now, there are decent storylines(for now) and the ratings have dropped. I'll admit the playoffs have been good i just have my doubts about the valididty of the ratings. I could be in error tho. and please, you and everyone else dont come on here and try t act tuff and defend the product to me. I've been supporting/bashing it since day one. Point is TNA's base is 1.0-1.1...thats pretty sad for a company thats been around for 7 years. So they have spurts when people are bored and there's nothing else on tv to watch so they flip to some tna. these arguments about women, sting, foley, etc drawing ratings is irrelevant. You'll see consistent numbers when the writing is consistent. Very few television companies can say that they have a show that pulls anything over 1.0 every week. Look up the Neilson website for television ratings. You can just say you dont believe it, but if facts are being presented to your face, I can't help but not care whether you believe it or not.. it's fact. I never argued it being factual, i argued it being viable. Just said i dint believe it. I found it hard to believe 100,ooo people thot that type of programming at that time was good let alone worthwhile to have them come back for more. Simply my opinion. perhaps enuff people thot the train wreck was good. And i barely trust the ratings system since they only acount for a small percentage of the viewing audience. take a look at this lengthy criticisim and see if it compares to anything considered factual: Criticism of ratings systems There is some public critique regarding accuracy and potential bias within Nielsen's rating system. In June 2006, however, Nielsen announced a "sweeping" plan to revamp its entire methodology to include all types of media viewing in its sample. Since viewers are aware of being part of the Nielsen sample, it can lead to response bias in recording and viewing habits. Audience counts gathered by the self-reporting diary methodology are sometimes higher than those gathered by the electronic meters which provide less opportunity for response bias. This trend seems to be more common for news programming and popular prime time programming. Also, daytime viewing and late night viewing tend to be under-reported by the diary. Another criticism of the measuring system itself is that it fails the most important criteria of a sample: it is not random in the statistical sense of the word. Only a small fraction of the population is selected and only those that actually accept are used as the sample size. Compounding matters is the fact that of the sample data that is collected, advertisers will not pay for time shifted (recorded for replay at a different time) programs [8] rendering the 'raw' numbers useless. In many local areas, the difference between a rating that keeps a show on the air and one that will cancel it is so small as to be statistically insignificant, and yet the show that just happens to get the higher rating will survive.[9] As the possible choices increase so does the margin of error resulting in the sampling sizes being too small.[10] In 2004, News Corporation retained the services of public relations firm Glover Park to launch a campaign aimed at delaying Nielsen's plan to replace its aging household electronic data collection methodology in larger local markets with its newer electronic People Meter system. The advocates in the public relations campaign charged that data derived from the newer People Meter system represented a bias toward underreporting minority viewing, which could lead to a de-facto discrimination in employment against minority actors and writers. Nielsen countered the campaign by revealing its sample composition counts. According to Nielsen Media Research's sample composition counts, as of November 2004[update], nationwide, African American Households using People Meters represented 6.7% of the Nielsen sample, compared to 6.0% in the general population. Latino Households represent 5.7% of the Nielsen sample, compared to 5.0% in the general population. By October 2006, New Corp. and Nielsen settled, with Nielsen agreeing to spend an additional $50 million to ensure that minority viewing was not being underreported by the new electronic people meter system.[11] Another criticism of the Nielsen ratings system is its lack of a system for measuring television audiences in environments outside the home, such as college dormitories, transport terminals, bars, and other public places where television is frequently viewed, often by large numbers of people in a common setting. In 2005, Nielsen has announced plans to incorporate viewing by away-from-home college students into its sample. Internet TV viewing is another rapidly growing market for which Nielsen Ratings fail to account for viewer impact. Apple iTunes, atomfilms, YouTube, and some of the networks' own websites (e.g., ABC.com, CBS.com) provide full-length web-based programming, either subscription-based or ad-supported. Though web sites can already track popularity of a site and the referring page, they can't track viewer demographics. To both track this and expand their market research offerings, Nielsen purchased NetRatings in 2007.[12] Furthermore, a new problem has developed primarily with the February sweeps. For the 2001-2002 season, the National Football League moved Super Bowl XXXVI to February, when it was placed in the sweeps period, because of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, which postponed the NFL schedule a week. Because of that, starting with the 2003-04 season, the NFL moved the Super Bowl into the sweeps period. Since the move of the Super Bowl into the sweeps period, Sunday nights in the sweeps period in February is almost guaranteed to be a winner for the network holding the big event on each of the four Sundays – the Super Bowl (alternates among NBC, CBS, FOX), Grammy Awards (moved to Sundays since 2003 except during Olympics, CBS), Daytona 500 (finish moved into prime-time in 2007; FOX), or Academy Awards (moved into the sweeps period in 2004, ABC) and every fourth year, the Winter Olympic Games (next telecast 2010, NBC). and a 1.0 everyweek is nothing to brag about. most shows would be cancelled. however this is a differnt demographic and Spike is a specialty network so it slides. NBC's chuck consitently got 2.0 or above, ABC's Boston legal got consitent 2.2's. Im not tryin to bash TNA, just disputing the claims made.
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Post by LtD73 on May 29, 2009 18:40:48 GMT -5
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Post by hjejmnse1 on May 29, 2009 19:56:30 GMT -5
1.2? come one That was a great show,better than WWE
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Post by Jimmy on May 29, 2009 20:02:26 GMT -5
1.2? come one That was a great show,better than WWE Quality very rarely factors into ratings.
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Post by deskjet on May 29, 2009 21:53:32 GMT -5
1.2? come one That was a great show,better than WWE Quality very rarely factors into ratings. that's my point
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Post by hjejmnse1 on May 29, 2009 21:55:47 GMT -5
1.2? come one That was a great show,better than WWE Quality very rarely factors into ratings. Then how do they get the ratings?
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Post by Joey Cush on May 29, 2009 23:32:16 GMT -5
Quality very rarely factors into ratings. Then how do they get the ratings? ....When people WATCH the show? IMO, if a show is good one week, I feel that the following week will have better ratings, not the show itself.
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Post by deskjet on May 30, 2009 11:13:17 GMT -5
1.2? come one That was a great show,better than WWE Quality very rarely factors into ratings. another point. TNA did higher ratings this week then last week and was against arguably the most watched NBA playoff game of the year...clevelands possible elimination game. you're telling me that more people watched less basketball this week then the week before becasue TNA had a better show? Not saying it wont but again, these ratings are so subjective it's hard to put any weight into it. Now watch next week...game one of the finals, TNA coming off arguably its best show to date with victoria/raven debuting, and they probably wont pull in above a 1.2 again. And people will bitch that bringing those people in did nothing for the company ratings wise. Point is, the system is so inaccurate it's difficult to gague TNA's success outside of the targeted area. I'd say as long as TNA can keep that core 1.0-1.1 it's suitable enough for Spike to continue to keep them on the air.
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Post by Ace Bennett on May 31, 2009 10:17:44 GMT -5
You know what I think? TNA really needs to advertise more. If they advertised their product during shows that the demographic they're targeting, they would get so many more viewers. I mean I don't know if they would be allowed to, but they should really advertise during Raw, ECW, and Smackdown. Just mention who's on the roster. I mean the names that TNA have WOULD draw if advertised correctly. I mean come on you got Sting, Angle, Team 3D, Foley, Booker, and Nash, among others. If there's something that TNA is doing wrong its that. With a roster like they have, they should definitely be pulling better than 1.2/1.3 every week.
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Jun 3, 2009 0:10:20 GMT -5
Very few television companies can say that they have a show that pulls anything over 1.0 every week. Look up the Neilson website for television ratings. You can just say you dont believe it, but if facts are being presented to your face, I can't help but not care whether you believe it or not.. it's fact. I never argued it being factual, i argued it being viable. Just said i dint believe it. I found it hard to believe 100,ooo people thot that type of programming at that time was good let alone worthwhile to have them come back for more. Simply my opinion. perhaps enuff people thot the train wreck was good. And i barely trust the ratings system since they only acount for a small percentage of the viewing audience. take a look at this lengthy criticisim and see if it compares to anything considered factual: Criticism of ratings systems There is some public critique regarding accuracy and potential bias within Nielsen's rating system. In June 2006, however, Nielsen announced a "sweeping" plan to revamp its entire methodology to include all types of media viewing in its sample. Since viewers are aware of being part of the Nielsen sample, it can lead to response bias in recording and viewing habits. Audience counts gathered by the self-reporting diary methodology are sometimes higher than those gathered by the electronic meters which provide less opportunity for response bias. This trend seems to be more common for news programming and popular prime time programming. Also, daytime viewing and late night viewing tend to be under-reported by the diary. Another criticism of the measuring system itself is that it fails the most important criteria of a sample: it is not random in the statistical sense of the word. Only a small fraction of the population is selected and only those that actually accept are used as the sample size. Compounding matters is the fact that of the sample data that is collected, advertisers will not pay for time shifted (recorded for replay at a different time) programs [8] rendering the 'raw' numbers useless. In many local areas, the difference between a rating that keeps a show on the air and one that will cancel it is so small as to be statistically insignificant, and yet the show that just happens to get the higher rating will survive.[9] As the possible choices increase so does the margin of error resulting in the sampling sizes being too small.[10] In 2004, News Corporation retained the services of public relations firm Glover Park to launch a campaign aimed at delaying Nielsen's plan to replace its aging household electronic data collection methodology in larger local markets with its newer electronic People Meter system. The advocates in the public relations campaign charged that data derived from the newer People Meter system represented a bias toward underreporting minority viewing, which could lead to a de-facto discrimination in employment against minority actors and writers. Nielsen countered the campaign by revealing its sample composition counts. According to Nielsen Media Research's sample composition counts, as of November 2004[update], nationwide, African American Households using People Meters represented 6.7% of the Nielsen sample, compared to 6.0% in the general population. Latino Households represent 5.7% of the Nielsen sample, compared to 5.0% in the general population. By October 2006, New Corp. and Nielsen settled, with Nielsen agreeing to spend an additional $50 million to ensure that minority viewing was not being underreported by the new electronic people meter system.[11] Another criticism of the Nielsen ratings system is its lack of a system for measuring television audiences in environments outside the home, such as college dormitories, transport terminals, bars, and other public places where television is frequently viewed, often by large numbers of people in a common setting. In 2005, Nielsen has announced plans to incorporate viewing by away-from-home college students into its sample. Internet TV viewing is another rapidly growing market for which Nielsen Ratings fail to account for viewer impact. Apple iTunes, atomfilms, YouTube, and some of the networks' own websites (e.g., ABC.com, CBS.com) provide full-length web-based programming, either subscription-based or ad-supported. Though web sites can already track popularity of a site and the referring page, they can't track viewer demographics. To both track this and expand their market research offerings, Nielsen purchased NetRatings in 2007.[12] Furthermore, a new problem has developed primarily with the February sweeps. For the 2001-2002 season, the National Football League moved Super Bowl XXXVI to February, when it was placed in the sweeps period, because of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, which postponed the NFL schedule a week. Because of that, starting with the 2003-04 season, the NFL moved the Super Bowl into the sweeps period. Since the move of the Super Bowl into the sweeps period, Sunday nights in the sweeps period in February is almost guaranteed to be a winner for the network holding the big event on each of the four Sundays – the Super Bowl (alternates among NBC, CBS, FOX), Grammy Awards (moved to Sundays since 2003 except during Olympics, CBS), Daytona 500 (finish moved into prime-time in 2007; FOX), or Academy Awards (moved into the sweeps period in 2004, ABC) and every fourth year, the Winter Olympic Games (next telecast 2010, NBC). and a 1.0 everyweek is nothing to brag about. most shows would be cancelled. however this is a differnt demographic and Spike is a specialty network so it slides. NBC's chuck consitently got 2.0 or above, ABC's Boston legal got consitent 2.2's. Im not tryin to bash TNA, just disputing the claims made. It's the only ratings system we've had, and whether its accurate or not it's using the same thing it used 10 years ago. And keep in mind, the shows you mentioned are not cable tv. Not everyone has cable, or they don't take the time. Naturally those ratings are (usually) higher.
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Post by The Mac on Jun 4, 2009 5:42:33 GMT -5
I kinda bad how they had 1.3 then they have dropped down!
I really want TNA to get ratings out of the roof
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Post by King Silva on Jun 4, 2009 6:29:14 GMT -5
So again the KO's delivery the highest rated segment of Impact.
Good for Love and Victoria since people probably watched to see Victoria debut in TNA.
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Post by LtD73 on Jun 8, 2009 13:07:03 GMT -5
1.1
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Post by The Mac on Jun 8, 2009 16:18:29 GMT -5
Last Thursday’s episode of TNA iMPACT drew a 1.1 cable rating, according to Neilsen Media Research. The show had an average audience of 1.6 million viewers. Here is the complete quarter-hour breakdown of who drew and who didn’t:
Q1: .96 (Kiyoshi/Sheik Bashir v. Daniels/Suicide) Q2: .97 (Shane Douglas speaks; Foley/Nash/Kip backstage) Q3: 1.00 (Beer Money v. Sabin/Creed; Beautiful People backstage) Q4: 1.09 (M.E.M. sit-down interview; Daffney v. Taylor) Q5: 1.28 (Daffney v. Taylor cont.; Jarrett/Eric Young confrontation) Q6: 1.26 (Jarrett/Young cont.; Matt Morgan vs. Jesse Neal Q7: 1.13 (Mick Foley speaks; Sting/Morgan backstage segment) Q8: 1.18 (Steiner/Booker backstage; Joe vs. Nash)
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Post by deskjet on Jun 8, 2009 18:00:23 GMT -5
These rating are junk and i really wish people would quit carin about them including TNA. This should know way dictate anything. the last two impacts have been great and most reviews have agreed. again, contrasted by the 1.3 rrating that train wreck of an empty arena match got which started all the hoopla. why dont they put a neilsen box in homes of wrestling fans if you want to get an accurate rating. Again, these things are flawed and TNA shouldnt be applauded or crucified for them.
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Post by deskjet on Jun 8, 2009 18:04:18 GMT -5
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It's the only ratings system we've had, and whether its accurate or not it's using the same thing it used 10 years ago.
And keep in mind, the shows you mentioned are not cable tv. Not everyone has cable, or they don't take the time. Naturally those ratings are (usually) higher.[/quote]
the fact that it's not accurate should be enough to not make it an issue then.
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Post by Jimmy on Jun 8, 2009 18:12:22 GMT -5
Clearly, Daffney = ratings
I've been saying it for years.
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Post by deskjet on Jun 8, 2009 18:17:53 GMT -5
Clearly, Daffney = ratings I've been saying it for years. more than ratings went up ;D
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