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Post by cmpunkextream on Feb 1, 2009 1:15:45 GMT -5
he beat stevenson and sherk that is it who else? How about Jens Pulver? Oh and Florian lost to Sherk. BJ destroyed Sherk... pulver is crap now and bj lost to him when pulver was at prime and florian is much improved. GSP on the other hand has these wins under his belt: 2XMatt Hughes 2XBj Penn Gave Kos his first lose Jon fitch Sean sherk frank trigg and some other average wins over karo and matt sera
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Post by NYdream™ on Feb 1, 2009 1:16:18 GMT -5
How about Jens Pulver? Oh and Florian lost to Sherk. BJ destroyed Sherk... Don't be one of "those guys" who makes that kind of comparison. But yeah, BJ has had some good wins. Don't forget Matt Hughes. BJ is a damn good fighter, he just so happens to be a prick as well, which turns a lot of people off. He may be an average fighter outside of his own weight class, but he's got what it takes to dominate at LW. I knew Id get **** for that comparison but I did it anyways, lol. I know it really does nto mean much... But still I dont see how he can say BJ is not the best LW in the world and has not beaten the top LWs in the world aside form Shinya Aoki who is at no. 2 IMO but will likely never get the chance to face BJ... Yes Jens is crap now too bad he lost to BJ 2 years ago...
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Post by Fury on Feb 1, 2009 1:16:41 GMT -5
Yeah BJ's amazing at lightweight and hasn't been too shoddy at other weights as well. But he's best to just stick in his own weight class, expecially with GSP outclassing him, I am looking forward to BJ/K Flo though.
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Post by sicksymphonies on Feb 1, 2009 1:17:19 GMT -5
Great victory for GSP, however I did not expect BJ Penn to be dominated like that.
Also I did not expect Machida to KO Thiago Silva in the first round,maybe in the second round
as Silva looked wabbly after taking some punches to the chin in the first round.
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Post by cmpunkextream on Feb 1, 2009 1:20:31 GMT -5
How about Jens Pulver? Oh and Florian lost to Sherk. BJ destroyed Sherk... Don't be one of "those guys" who makes that kind of comparison. But yeah, BJ has had some good wins. Don't forget Matt Hughes. BJ is a damn good fighter, he just so happens to be a prick as well, which turns a lot of people off. He may be an average fighter outside of his own weight class, but he's got what it takes to dominate at LW. I agree with you but the thing that LW are not as top class as other weight classes just like middle weight. Also i do agree that the greatest fight for mma fans now is set for ufc to make official after Andreson defends his belt is: GSP vs Anderson the spider Silva at 180 i think that this would be the fight that will truly split fans 50/50 especially after tonight win well domination and destruction by GSP of BJ
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Post by NYdream™ on Feb 1, 2009 1:20:32 GMT -5
How about Jens Pulver? Oh and Florian lost to Sherk. BJ destroyed Sherk... pulver is **** now and bj lost to him when pulver was at prime and florian is much improved. GSP on the other hand has these wins under his belt: 2XMatt Hughes 2XBj Penn Gave Kos his first lose Jon fitch Sean sherk frank trigg and some other average wins over karo and matt sera Your not quite getting what im saying... I know GSP has more impressive wins and is a better fighter. But Im saying BJ Penn is the number one lightweight in the world..
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Post by James Hetfield on Feb 1, 2009 1:23:46 GMT -5
I was stupid to think Penn had a chance.
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Post by cmpunkextream on Feb 1, 2009 1:26:13 GMT -5
pulver is **** now and bj lost to him when pulver was at prime and florian is much improved. GSP on the other hand has these wins under his belt: 2XMatt Hughes 2XBj Penn Gave Kos his first lose Jon fitch Sean sherk frank trigg and some other average wins over karo and matt sera Your not quite getting what im saying... I know GSP has more impressive wins and is a better fighter. But Im saying BJ Penn is the number one lightweight in the world.. i get what you are saying but I lost all respect to bj because of his personality and as i said i think bj is not 1 at LW i think he is a overrated.
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Post by cmpunkextream on Feb 1, 2009 1:27:50 GMT -5
I was stupid to think Penn had a chance. you were not stupid he did have a chance its mma everybody has a chance but the thing is that bj was not prepared and took the crap too lightly.
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Post by Fury on Feb 1, 2009 1:28:07 GMT -5
Your not quite getting what im saying... I know GSP has more impressive wins and is a better fighter. But Im saying BJ Penn is the number one lightweight in the world.. i get what you are saying but I lost all respect to bj because of his personality and as i said i think bj is not 1 at LW i think he is a overrated. Who have you got ranked above him at lightweight?
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Post by NYdream™ on Feb 1, 2009 1:28:30 GMT -5
Your not quite getting what im saying... I know GSP has more impressive wins and is a better fighter. But Im saying BJ Penn is the number one lightweight in the world.. i get what you are saying but I lost all respect to bj because of his personality and as i said i think bj is not 1 at LW i think he is a overrated. Weather you like him or not he is not over rated and he is the number one lightweight in the world... I wish he could face Shinya Aoki to determine the number one but it wont happen. P4P he is still in the top 5 IMO but I dffinatly think GSP is a better well rounded fighter than BJ and is in the top 3 p4p fighters in the world...
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Post by cmpunkextream on Feb 1, 2009 1:32:05 GMT -5
i get what you are saying but I lost all respect to bj because of his personality and as i said i think bj is not 1 at LW i think he is a overrated. Who have you got ranked above him at lightweight? Takanori Gomi,Shinya Aoki and a very close to kenny flo
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Post by NYdream™ on Feb 1, 2009 1:34:26 GMT -5
Who have you got ranked above him at lightweight? Takanori Gomi,Shinya Aoki and a very close to kenny flo BJ Penn beat Takanori Gomi. Aoki has not beat the level of competition BJ has and Ken Flo will get his shot at claiming the title soon enough...
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Post by Fury on Feb 1, 2009 1:37:25 GMT -5
Who have you got ranked above him at lightweight? Takanori Gomi,Shinya Aoki and a very close to kenny flo Gomi really, you mean the same Gomi who not only had a first round loss earlier this year, but also has a loss in the past to BJ Penn, I say again Really? Aoki I understand that there's a very valid debate there, if you actually believed that, but I doubt you really do. And K-Flo's a no until they (he and BJ) meet in the octagon. I really don't think you know what you're talking about.
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Post by cmpunkextream on Feb 1, 2009 1:38:09 GMT -5
Takanori Gomi,Shinya Aoki and a very close to kenny flo BJ Penn beat Takanori Gomi. Aoki has not beat the level of competition BJ has and Ken Flo will get his shot at claiming the title soon enough... did you notice that both of you have bjin your sig and pic so ofcourse youll defend your fav fighter and if you mean bj is in top 3 P4P he is not 1.Fedor 2.Silva 3.GSP
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Post by NYdream™ on Feb 1, 2009 1:41:06 GMT -5
Takanori Gomi,Shinya Aoki and a very close to kenny flo Gomi really, you mean the same Gomi who not only had a first round loss earlier this year, but also has a loss in the past to BJ Penn, I say again Really? Aoki I understand that there's a very valid debate there, if you actually believed that, but I doubt you really do. And K-Flo's a no until they (he and BJ) meet in the octagon. I really don't think you know what you're talking about. Aoki also had a round 1 loss in 08...
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Post by Fury on Feb 1, 2009 1:43:07 GMT -5
BJ Penn beat Takanori Gomi. Aoki has not beat the level of competition BJ has and Ken Flo will get his shot at claiming the title soon enough... did you notice that both of you have bjin your sig and pic so ofcourse youll defend your fav fighter and if you mean bj is in top 3 P4P he is not 1.Fedor 2.Silva 3.GSP Were you talking to me about BJ in my sig? There really isn't anyone else here that you could've been speaking to. I don't have BJ in my sig, never had, never will, GSP & Rampage are my 2 favorite fighters and I've reiterated that first point throughout this thread. Also no one said BJ was top 3 P4P in the world in this thread anywhere. Please just go away, you have no idea what you're talking about & you continue on with baseless crap.
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Post by NYdream™ on Feb 1, 2009 1:43:08 GMT -5
BJ Penn beat Takanori Gomi. Aoki has not beat the level of competition BJ has and Ken Flo will get his shot at claiming the title soon enough... did you notice that both of you have bjin your sig and pic so ofcourse youll defend your fav fighter and if you mean bj is in top 3 P4P he is not 1.Fedor 2.Silva 3.GSP Yea I was talking about GSP man... I mean BJ is in the top 5 but deffinatly not 3... Wow you need to read. and who cares who we have in our sig. You have no idea who what your tallking about. Earlier you stated GSP was your favorite and then argued him to be the best in the world. Arent we allowed to too?
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Post by cmpunkextream on Feb 1, 2009 1:48:36 GMT -5
did you notice that both of you have bjin your sig and pic so ofcourse youll defend your fav fighter and if you mean bj is in top 3 P4P he is not 1.Fedor 2.Silva 3.GSP Yea I was talking about GSP man... I mean BJ is in the top 5 but deffinatly not 3... Wow you need to read. and who cares who we have in our sig. You have no idea who what your tallking about. Earlier you stated GSP was your favorite and then argued him to be the best in the world. Arent we allowed to too? dude you said i need to read i never said gsp myfavourite myfav is Silva then GSP then Fedor but P4p is fedor silva and gsp
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Post by Kliquid on Feb 1, 2009 1:55:05 GMT -5
I'm so sad about how piss poor BJ looked tonight.
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