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Post by Codesters on Feb 1, 2009 2:04:28 GMT -5
I'm so sad about how piss poor BJ looked tonight. He just didn't prepare for GSP properly. I knew that cardio would be a big issue here.
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Post by NYdream™ on Feb 1, 2009 2:04:51 GMT -5
Yea I was talking about GSP man... I mean BJ is in the top 5 but deffinatly not 3... Wow you need to read. and who cares who we have in our sig. You have no idea who what your tallking about. Earlier you stated GSP was your favorite and then argued him to be the best in the world. Arent we allowed to too? dude you said i need to read i never said gsp myfavourite myfav is Silva then GSP then Fedor but P4p is fedor silva and gsp Your right I confused you with Fury,,, But no matter what you think about him love or hate BJ Penn is the number 1 lightweight in the world... We all have our own opinions and because you hate BJs personality its ok for you to down on him. It doesent mean your right but you can think what you want... I'm so sad about how piss poor BJ looked tonight. He just didn't prepare for GSP properly. I knew that cardio would be a big issue here. That probably played the biggest role in BJs loss... GSP probably has the best cardio in the world of MMA....
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Feb 1, 2009 2:11:19 GMT -5
Man, that was the official raping of B.J. Penn. GSP ing beat the crap out of him. Just an all-out 4-round mugging. All the smack-talk Penn laid out and he got ing SMOKED. It looked good on the ing prick. With that win, I believe GSP is now the best fighter in the world. Even better than Anderson Silva. Man, if B.J. Penn shows up to fight Ken-Flo like he did against St. Pierre tonight, he's gonna ing lose, I'll tell ya that right now. No question about that. Penn looked pathetic tonight. I guess he shouldn't have taken those 5 days off to around eh?? LOL. GSP is the ing man!! End of story.
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Post by Bartman on Feb 1, 2009 2:26:41 GMT -5
That probably played the biggest role in BJs loss... GSP probably has the best cardio in the world of MMA.... Yeah, certainly one of the best at the very least. Sean Sherk is a cardio fiend as well.
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Post by Boquest on Feb 1, 2009 3:16:27 GMT -5
Props to GSP for the win. I was really hoping he'd pull it off, and I love how GSP actually showed emotion while trying to finish him. I was rooting for him, but damn BJ is one dangerous guy. Here's hoping GSP gets past Alves, and we get to see him take on Anderson!
...On a side note, why do I think even an out of shape BJ can still get past Ken'Flo?
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Post by Kliquid on Feb 1, 2009 3:19:55 GMT -5
With that win, I believe GSP is now the best fighter in the world. Even better than Anderson Silva.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Feb 1, 2009 7:02:26 GMT -5
^ Yeah, you are right. Fedor is the best. My bad. And then right there at a close 2nd, in my opinion, is GSP.
There can be no doubt now that GSP is a far better fighter than B.J. Penn. I mean, if last night's fight wasn't proof of that, then I don't know what was.
I knew going into that fight last night, that GSP now is a FAR better fighter than he was when he beat Penn the first time around and I was right. He's clearly improved leaps & bounds and his utter descimation of B.J. Penn proved that in my eyes.
Thiago Alves is in trouble, I'll say that much. He got a glimpse last night of the beating that's in store for him. Best of luck to him because he'll need it.
*Edit*
My friend and I just had a dispute over the apparent shots to the back of the head GSP landed on Penn in the 4th round.
I know referee Herb Dean warned GSP about it, but to me, it looked like they were to the side of the head, right behind the ear. That isn't to the back of the head, it's to the side.
I mean, your ears are on the side of your head, right? Well, it appeared they were all just behind the ear, which is to the side. Not to the back of the head.
The back of the head to me, is the external occipital protuberance (thank you Gorilla Monsoon for that ;D), which is the little bump we all have on the back of the head.
The only clear shot that I saw GSP land to the back of B.J.'s head was at the final :19 second mark of the 4th round.
Now, that was to the back of the head. I'll agree with that shot one-hundred and ten percent there, but not the others. The other shots looked all legal to me, despite referee Herb Dean's warnings.
That's just my take on it. Others may disagree but whatever. You've all got your take on it and so do I.
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Feb 1, 2009 11:40:51 GMT -5
Some fun facts abut UFC 94:
-- The show set the UFC record for most decisions on a single show (8) -- Also demolished the UFC record for most SPLIT decisions in a single show (5... previous record was only 2) -- First UFC loss of Nate Diaz -- First loss of Thiago Silva's career -- Karo Parisyan became the all-time record holder for most wins via decision, with 7
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Post by Mr. Orange on Feb 1, 2009 12:31:04 GMT -5
Man, what a dominating win for GSP. I thought it would be a little closer in the first two rounds but right from the start it was GSP.
I think Penn prepared very well for this fight, it was just a combination of the extra 13 pounds and well, GSP. Penn was in great shape for this (he didn't have the doughy soft mid section as bad as he did the first time) and he went pretty hard for the first few rounds. I think it was the extra 13 pounds that aren't meant to be there, GSP's relentless pace and unpredictability that caused Penn's downfall later in the fight.
With this, GSP is number 2 in my mind for the P4P title, with Fedor number 1. GSP looked so good in this fight over a very, very good fighter that its hard to deny him the number two spot. Thiago Alves is going to be in some trouble when they fight.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Feb 1, 2009 13:03:49 GMT -5
I think Penn prepared very well for this fight Well, that's debatable, if you've seen the new show "UFC Primetime", then you wouldn't even think about saying that because he didn't. Sure, he trained hard for a bit and then got lazy and decided to take 5 days off to chill out and relax. Dana White even said on the show, "B.J., you'd better get your ing ass back in the gym" because he knew Penn was screwing around and not taking the fight as serious as he should have. Penn also said on the show that GSP was a quitter and didn't have the heart and all this other crap that was simply not true. Just a bunch of smack-talk from the bigmouth. One question for ya. Who's the quitter now Penn?? Who's the ing quitter now?? ;D
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Post by Mr. Orange on Feb 1, 2009 14:53:29 GMT -5
I did see the first one, but I wasn't able to catch the last two. If he didn't prep well then he has no one to blame but himself. But I think he did. His gut wasn't massive, which showed that he didn't just eat Pop Tarts to get up in weight like he did the first time. He was a little more muscular and he himself said he did some weight training, showing that he took this a little more seriously. But I guess in the long run all that didn't matter. Instead of weights, maybe he should have put in more cardio. Running with a rock under water once to show off for the camera didn't cut it.
I thought his corner were the ones who stopped the fight? If BJ himself quit, which I guess he did because he didn't say anything in the corner, then by his logic isn't he calling himself a little bitch? Sure he didn't tap to strikes in the 4th round (which amazed me. Most would have tapped in there when they had their arms tied up), but he pretty much had his spirit broken and was finished.
But this debate could go on forever. I just want to see what Penn has to say about it. He's the only one who knows for sure if he was truly ready.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Feb 1, 2009 15:07:32 GMT -5
^ I'm not saying he didn't prepare because he definitely did. He worked his friggin' ass off, don't get me wrong. But then, for whatever reason, he made the decision to cut back and relax and take 5 days off to himself and not do anything.
I bet he regrets doing that now. Those 5 added days of training certainly could've helped him out for sure. It would've made him that much better. However, he wasn't impressive in that fight AT ALL. A dysmal and very disappointing outing for Penn.
Well, at the end of the 4th, his corner asked him a few times "do you want this fight", "do you want this fight", and by that point B.J. was a beaten man and couldn't take no more and didn't want no more, so I guess they did stop the fight on his behalf.
I could swear if you listen closely, I heard him say "I'm done" as he was hunched over in the corner. I'm pretty sure I heard him say that once for sure.
If he truly wanted it as badly as he claimed he did, he had one more final round to try and get it done. But, by that point, he was too beat up and too exausted to want any part of it.
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Post by James Hetfield on Feb 1, 2009 18:21:42 GMT -5
Although he lost, I'm pretty convinced BJ would have done better if the weight thing wasn't an issue.
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Post by WWF Sim Fed on Feb 1, 2009 19:40:06 GMT -5
Thanks BJ Penn for losing. Lost a bet with my bro haha it's all good. Thought he had this one though. GSP dominated unfortunately. The Prodigy will be back!
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Post by NYdream™ on Feb 1, 2009 20:02:45 GMT -5
Thanks BJ Penn for losing. Lost a bet with my bro haha it's all good. Thought he had this one though. GSP dominated unfortunately. The Prodigy will be back! BJ will be back where he belongs at 155. He is a 155'r not at 170. He will be alot better in the future and in no way does this not make him the best LW fighter orone of the best p4p fighters in the world. It just shows GSP is better thna him and he does not belong at LW..
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Post by Kliquid on Feb 1, 2009 23:29:33 GMT -5
My friend and I just had a dispute over the apparent shots to the back of the head GSP landed on Penn in the 4th round. I know referee Herb Dean warned GSP about it, but to me, it looked like they were to the side of the head, right behind the ear. That isn't to the back of the head, it's to the side. He definitely did hit him in the back of the head a bunch of times... I don't think it was intentional, and BJ was moving his head into it, much like Frank Mir vs. Brock Lesnar.
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Post by Sandy on Feb 2, 2009 5:12:19 GMT -5
Oh lord..
Everyone who said BJ Penn would destroy GSP and knock him out...and everyone who said GSP can do nothing to hurt BJ Penn...
I Told YOU SO
I knew GSP would be too much of an athlete for BJ's sh** talking self... I know a lot of that was just him trying to hype the fight up but the sad thing was is even after people say BJ taking the days off they still thought that BJ would beat Georges..
It was so nice seeing Georges basically make BJ his bitch. I can say that too since according to BJ a bitch is a quitter..and that is exactly what BJ did is go to his corner with his head down and quit..his brother said that was it and called the fight..hopefully now BJ stays at 155 now.
I will completely eat my words that I thought Lyoto would get KTFO. I think that fight earned him a title shot for sure..getting the knockout right at the bell was so damn impressive. I still think he is boring as f*** at times and he only does enough to win instead of going in there and destroying a fighter...but if he has more fights like the one he had on saturday I wouldn't mind him as champion..I still don't like him..but I wouldn't mind him being champ.
the rest of the card was kind of weak..I thought it would be such a great card but so many decisions and slow fights..Karos fight was slow..hell even the Guida fight didn't live up to the caveman standards..
great main event though.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Feb 2, 2009 15:09:40 GMT -5
that is so damn true...haha... BUT WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!! WE HAVE TO SEE STEPHAN BONNAR VS. JON JONES!! I might not like Fitch, but the guy deserves to be on the damn PPV imo. After the fight with GSP I completely respect the guy as a fighter...something about HIM as a person still gets on my nerves, though. Oh you mean I luckily get to watch the guy that got busted for the juice and this is his first fight back. Oh wait who did Stephan Boner beat ( I know it is Bonnar)? Nobody. True he played a major part of putting UFC on the map today with his fight against Griffin. But that was (at the time) not a big accomplishment. Jon deserved and earned his spot on the main card. you Dana. You wonder why I told you "no thanks. I would rather deal with Lorenzo." You suck. You are and will always be a piece of ****. I respect what you have done developing the sport. But I do NOT respect the person who you are. I hope Kos, Swick, Fitch, win YOUR belts and then walk out. Because that is what they want to do (along with 3/4 of your fighters why isn't War Machine on your site anymore when all your other alumni are?). Affliction may not be around forever but at least they respect what they have and treat us like people. Unlike you DANA WHITE. I will not include Lorenzo and Frank in that because everytime (yes behind Dana's back) I talked to them they have treated me like an actuall human. Not just a piece of **** you can use for 6 months then toss out. Like what you did to Jon. That's why Penn lost his passion for the sport awhile ago. Because you did the same thing to him. That's why Randy hates you. There are 2 different people in the UFC world. Either you hate Dana or you don't know him enough to hate him yet. Ask Tito, Andre,hell even Fedor hates your ass. You were great for the sport. Now you are hindering it more than helping it. You ing (haha Dana language to seem like he is cool. And tough). Yeah, I hope 'Kos' walks out too... that way, I won't have to see him ever again - although he'll be leaving empty-handed, because he ain't winning any belt..
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