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Post by theforrestgriffin2 on Apr 5, 2009 23:11:10 GMT -5
I liked wrestlemania this year but didn't love it mainly because the two title matches.
I expected H and Cena to win but not like that. The whole show was wonderfull with the exception of these two matches. I thought HBK/Taker put on one hell of a show. But come one orton/Triple H was horrible. I started to fall asleep.
Overall if the night ended with HBK/taker it would have been a perfect PPV. But they had to throw in two lackluster title matches.
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Post by Jimmy on Apr 5, 2009 23:11:13 GMT -5
HBK vs Taker didnt appeal to me at all. The only reason the match was half way interesting was because it was HBK and Taker. If it was Marty Jannetty and Sid Justice and every spot and move was done exactly the same, it would have been snooze fest you do realize you can say that about any match? austin vs. rock would TOTALLY suck if it was randy orton vs. sonny siaki.
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Post by carly1988 on Apr 5, 2009 23:13:11 GMT -5
Missed MITB, Diva Battle Royal and Jericho vs Legends, so I cant judge it, but the rest of the show just sucked top to bottom. HBK vs Taker didnt appeal to me at all. The only reason the match was half way interesting was because it was HBK and Taker. If it was Marty Jannetty and Sid Justice and every spot and move was done exactly the same, it would have been snooze fest Seriously, if that HBK/Taker match didn't appeal to you, wrestling is not for you. You are wasting your time..... Well its probably since Ive been watching wrestling longer then most of this board has been alive, that Taker vs Michaels is as old as HHH vs Orton and Cena vs Edge....Really it was like watching a bunch of raw main events on one show. It was better then 11 and 16 IMO but still doesnt come close to the top 10 best manias
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Post by Mark on Apr 5, 2009 23:14:18 GMT -5
Seriously, if that HBK/Taker match didn't appeal to you, wrestling is not for you. You are wasting your time..... Well its probably since Ive been watching wrestling longer then most of this board has been alive, that Taker vs Michaels is as old as HHH vs Orton and Cena vs Edge....Really it was like watching a bunch of raw main events on one show. It was better then 11 and 16 IMO but still doesnt come close to the top 10 best manias undertaker and hbk never fought that many times even back in the 90's, i can count how many times they fought on one hand
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Post by v/\v on Apr 5, 2009 23:15:43 GMT -5
No-one caught JR's tasteless comment?(Ledger) I guess I'm not done. But yes, damn, I forgot all about that. It did seem a little bit off the cuff. To be honest, I thought the commentary was lacking all night. Obviously they're not used to working in a three-man team, and it showed quite a bit. Aye, it was very odd, the way the matches were called. Suited the event. Really messy night. Me and my bro gasped when he said that.
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Post by James Hardy on Apr 5, 2009 23:16:03 GMT -5
Well, I can honestly say that may have been the worst WrestleMania ever. I can't say I'm mad, because I don't watch the WWE religiously anymore, but it's disappointing to see a WrestleMania that lackluster. This show just failed to deliver on almost all levels, thank god for Shawn vs. Taker.. or else this would have been the biggest snoozefest of a show. First off, and while this may not be important to the show, the arena set up was pretty weak. I think a lot of the time the look and feel of the arena plays a big part in WrestleMania, and this time it looked exactly like Mania 23.. On to the matches: The Money in the Bank match has run it's course. I can say that it was entertaining, but by now it's so stale and repetitive at this point that it's something that's ruining WrestleMania. I'd much rather see the competitors in the match be in one on one matches that actually have a storyline, instead of a cluster- spot fest. The divas battle royal isn't even worth talking about, and the winner was even worse. The legends vs. Jericho was decent, but really, the storyline was pretty ridiculous, and the fact that one of the most talented wrestlers in WWE was stuck facing three old-timers is pretty lame. The bit with Rourke was cool, though. Matt vs. Jeff was entertaining, but the storyline didn't do anything for me, so I really didn't care. the end spots were cool, at least. Undertaker vs. HBK, was obviously the best match of the show, a classic WrestleMania match, and kept me on the edge of my seat, excited the whole time. Very fun to watch. I missed JBL vs. Rey because of technical difficulties so i can't comment on it. The triple threat was decent, but the feud was dumb, and really.. how many times are we going to see Cena win? I don't dislike Cena at all, but c'mon, this is ridiculous. Triple H vs. Orton was boring to say the least. And wow, what a lackluster, anti-climactic ending. Not just to the match, but to WrestleMania. That's not how you close the biggest show of the year, and the feud deserved better than that as well. I understand they have to keep it going, but what better way to make Randy Orton out to be a star then to have him go over and win the title at the biggest show of the year? I felt going in that the match lacked star power and Wrestle Mania Main Event feel, but it had a great storyline to make up for it, but that match gives Batista vs. HHH a run for it's money as worst Mania main event. In conclusion, this show just reminded me why I gave up on the WWE. Of course as a long time fan, I had to check out WrestleMania, and I do catch the occasional RAW here and there. This was the first Mania I did not order since WM 7.. and I can say boy am I glad I didn't waste 55 bucks on it. At least the last two Mania's were decent.
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Post by cenaroxorz123 on Apr 5, 2009 23:16:38 GMT -5
No-one caught JR's tasteless comment?(Ledger) What did he say?
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Post by J12 on Apr 5, 2009 23:17:14 GMT -5
I guess I'm not done. But yes, damn, I forgot all about that. It did seem a little bit off the cuff. To be honest, I thought the commentary was lacking all night. Obviously they're not used to working in a three-man team, and it showed quite a bit. Aye, it was very odd, the way the matches were called. Suited the event. Really messy night. I really was -its not something I can really put my finger on either. There seemed to be a lot of camera mishaps and audio screw ups that really took away from the atmosphere. I hate to be nit-picky here, because I honestly did really enjoy the show, save the main event, but it was just an all around strange night.
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Post by Mark on Apr 5, 2009 23:17:42 GMT -5
No-one caught JR's tasteless comment?(Ledger) What did he say? he said Rey's career was alive
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Post by the franchise on Apr 5, 2009 23:18:42 GMT -5
I give Punk credit. He does nothing in the MITB matches yet he is still able to win them.
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Post by carly1988 on Apr 5, 2009 23:19:03 GMT -5
Well its probably since Ive been watching wrestling longer then most of this board has been alive, that Taker vs Michaels is as old as HHH vs Orton and Cena vs Edge....Really it was like watching a bunch of raw main events on one show. It was better then 11 and 16 IMO but still doesnt come close to the top 10 best manias undertaker and hbk never fought that many times even back in the 90's, i can count how many times they fought on one hand Look at it this way though, When E&C face Hardys in TLC matches, which during the attitude era were great and set standards for all TLC matches, when you see them in a basic tag match, is it exciting? Not really. We've seen Taker vs HBK in HIAC and a casket match, both matches IMO were better this their WM match.
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Post by Mark on Apr 5, 2009 23:20:39 GMT -5
undertaker and hbk never fought that many times even back in the 90's, i can count how many times they fought on one hand Look at it this way though, When E&C face Hardys in TLC matches, which during the attitude era were great and set standards for all TLC matches, when you see them in a basic tag match, is it exciting? Not really. We've seen Taker vs HBK in HIAC and a casket match, both matches IMO were better this their WM match. It was 11 or 12 years since they fought each other, excluding their tag match
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Post by Barrett on Apr 5, 2009 23:21:43 GMT -5
I'm not a Triple H hater (I actually enjoy his work 90% of the time), but I think it's time we get him out of WM main events. Thinking back, the only official main event match of his that I've enjoyed was the WM20 Triple Threat. Not only that, but his matches with Jericho, Batista, Cena, and now Orton will go down as four of my least favorite WM main events of all time.
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Post by Jamal on Apr 5, 2009 23:25:37 GMT -5
undertaker and hbk never fought that many times even back in the 90's, i can count how many times they fought on one hand Look at it this way though, When E&C face Hardys in TLC matches, which during the attitude era were great and set standards for all TLC matches, when you see them in a basic tag match, is it exciting? Not really. We've seen Taker vs HBK in HIAC and a casket match, both matches IMO were better this their WM match. I respect your opinion, but in this day and age, you wont find a better match. If this match can't excite you maybe wrestling just isn't for you anymore. Just my opinion bra.
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Post by yankeesforever on Apr 5, 2009 23:26:38 GMT -5
That was by far the best match Undertaker has ever competed in at Wrestlemania. Even better than WM 9 against Giant Gonzalez ....
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Post by Spicoli~! on Apr 5, 2009 23:26:59 GMT -5
I enjoyed wrestlemania a bit. Heres my positives
-MITB is always fun little spotfest, Kofi really ruled here - Rey's attire was AWESOME and I'm glad he's champ although I did want more of a meaningful run for JBL. - Taker/HBK might be my favorite match of all time. I forget how good both of these guys are sometimes because they don't always go to the limit but they showed the world what a great match should be. - Matt vs Jeff was good too. I LOVE matt's new attire and I hope his push continues
Negatives: - I reallllllly wanted to see the tag match, I guess I'll get the dvd now haha - Orton/Triple H didn't do it for me, neither did the Triple Threat. Maybe it was because I was hyped all night and peaked during Taker/HBK, but I wasn't into either match as much even though Edge and Orton are in my top 10
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Post by carly1988 on Apr 5, 2009 23:27:35 GMT -5
Look at it this way though, When E&C face Hardys in TLC matches, which during the attitude era were great and set standards for all TLC matches, when you see them in a basic tag match, is it exciting? Not really. We've seen Taker vs HBK in HIAC and a casket match, both matches IMO were better this their WM match. It was 11 or 12 years since they fought each other, excluding their tag match We've still seen it though, and when we saw it the first 3 times (Breakdown??, Badd Blood and Royal Rumble) they were both in their primes and worked excellent. My buddy and I sat right here watching it and both paid more attention to the Braves Phillies game. It just personally didnt do "it" for me, but then again none of the matches on the card did. However, HBK entrance...was the best of the night
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Post by tnafan4life on Apr 5, 2009 23:29:37 GMT -5
Look at it this way though, When E&C face Hardys in TLC matches, which during the attitude era were great and set standards for all TLC matches, when you see them in a basic tag match, is it exciting? Not really. We've seen Taker vs HBK in HIAC and a casket match, both matches IMO were better this their WM match. I respect your opinion, but in this day and age, you wont find a better match. If this match can't excite you maybe wrestling just isn't for you anymore. Just my opinion bra. WHy is "wrestlin not for him"? Because, he's not creaming over the match?
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 5, 2009 23:31:59 GMT -5
A total waste. The entire card was a ing abortion. 1. Snuka was drunk. 2. The constant making fun of Michael Cole was stupid. How is anyone supposed to take him seriously, if Ross/Lawler make fun of him. They buried him tonight. Complete burial. Those two have no business critiquing anyone's ability considering how bad they are. 3. The wrestler's seemed off their game. Tons of missed spots and moves in that ring. A flu bug or something? I dont know. 90% of the roster was off a step. 4. The highlight of the whole night was the entrances for HBK/Taker. The match was sort of dissapointing and the constant kickouts out of every finisher was lackluster. 5. Someone explain to me how HBK at 40+ is still better than 90% of the roster, most of which he is twice their age. It'll be a sad day when he doesnt wrestle anymore. 6. Jim Ross is a pure idiot. I think he was drunk too, the bitter old pill. He called the chokeslam a clothesline, among numerous other botches. He should be taken out around back and have a bullet put in his head like Old Yella. He was a good dog....one of the best. But then one day, he got old and lost it. Time to put it out of its misery....or more specifically, MY misery. 7. 20 mins of Kid Rock lip synching? Please. What a waste. 8. Santino winning the Divas battle royal? Why dont you just take a giant crapon the Women's Title? We didnt even get entrances and intros for them. I couldnt keep track of the match and had no idea who was in it so Kid Rock could lip synch some more. 9. Melina is just downright awful. How the hell is she champion? 10. The Triple Threat was an ok match. Did not like Cena winning, but it was predictable. Dont understand the need for Vickie being ringside, as she was used for basically one spot and was done. 11. Rey Mysterio looked like a intellectually- disabled child who dressed himself at Halloween. JBL deserved better. 12. Jeff and Matt went all out. I found it shocking that Matt went over tonight. 13. HGH proves once again how much of an ego maniac he truly is. He has basically dominated Orton at every step of this feud. Its no shock that Orton didnt win.......I am just more shocked at how HGH worked this feud and how the match ended.
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Post by Barrett on Apr 5, 2009 23:32:13 GMT -5
- I reallllllly wanted to see the tag match, I guess I'll get the dvd now haha I'm hoping this match and Austin's full HOF speech will be posted online somewhere, because I don't want to have to get the DVD just for these two things. The more I think about it, I actually would have preferred the Triple Threat in the main event spot. At least with that one, there were plenty of decent spots and I had no idea who was going to win. Sure, it wouldn't have been a WM-esque main event, but neither was the one we got.
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