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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Apr 11, 2009 13:46:32 GMT -5
As the title says:
I remember Steve Blackman running him down, then having a feud with Y2J, I mean that must of been his last couple of months right??
What & When was his last match/moment?
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Post by nirvanacobain on Apr 11, 2009 13:56:30 GMT -5
Shamrock briefly feuded with Jeff Jarrett before beginning a rivalry with martial artist Steve Blackman that saw he and Blackman fight one another in a series of unorthodox matches. The feud ended at SummerSlam 1999, where Shamrock defeated Blackman in a "Lion's Den match". He went on to feud with the newly debuted Chris Jericho until departing the WWF in late 1999 in order to resume his mixed martial arts career. His departure was attributed to an injury inflicted by Jericho's bodyguard, Mr. Hughes.
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Post by Dwight on Apr 11, 2009 14:08:43 GMT -5
Here is another guy that should have been WWF Champion. He could have easily held the belt for at least a few months in like 1998 right after Bret left. But he was caught in the middle of the Stone Cold push so yeah. Then he got dicked around and placed in the Corporation and crap. That's about the time people didn't care about him.
So I can understand why he left.
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Post by carly1988 on Apr 11, 2009 14:10:37 GMT -5
Shamrock was never a world title caliber type guy. His run was about the best he could do. The only thing that could have been better is if he stayed around a little longer
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Post by jfinnomore on Apr 11, 2009 20:28:03 GMT -5
Shamrock was never a world title caliber type guy. His run was about the best he could do. The only thing that could have been better is if he stayed around a little longer i think he could of did decent having the world strap. i wish he would of stuck with wrestling instead of tarnishing his ufc legacy with terrible come backs now the roids situation. |
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Post by raz2005uk on Apr 11, 2009 20:46:45 GMT -5
look on the bright side though, he was made KOTR in 1998 lol
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Post by Dwight on Apr 11, 2009 23:01:31 GMT -5
He was pretty over in 1997. They built him up pretty well going over Bret Hart and stuff. Looking back I still think he could have held the belt briefly. But like I said, he was caught in Austin's big run and just got thrown around.
If he could actually cut a promo he would have probably came off better. Perhaps a manager or something would have been good for him.
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Post by Jimmy on Apr 11, 2009 23:13:42 GMT -5
shamrock just a bit ahead of his time. submission wrestling only became big once kurt angle came along.
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Post by Doctor Worm on Apr 11, 2009 23:30:03 GMT -5
shamrock just a bit ahead of his time. submission wrestling only became big once kurt angle came along.  Bret wasnt Straight Submission, Id say yeah he's right ,He was the only straight submissionist untill angle came around |
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Apr 12, 2009 8:44:27 GMT -5
I think Shamrock could've held the strap for a bit and made a decent run.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 12, 2009 16:52:26 GMT -5
There was never a time when Shamrock was anywhere near the best choice for a good run as world champion. After Bret left, Michaels was the champion leading into the Austin era. He could pass the torch in a way that fellow new champ Shamrock (who also wasn't that great a wrestler, remember) couldn't. Then Austin, Taker, Kane, Rock and Foley were all much more viable titleholders.
Shamrock tends to be thought highly of because Angle and Benoit made the submission stuff more popular. But he never had many great matches at all.
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Post by Jord on Apr 12, 2009 16:54:39 GMT -5
I would have loved Shamrock to get a run with the WWF title. He was one of my favourites back in the day.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Apr 12, 2009 19:41:44 GMT -5
I wish he would come back to wrestling, he's healthy enough to do that still. Although I doubt Vince would want anything to do with him since he got busted for teh roidz.
Shamrock making Cena tap to the ankle lock would be the moment of the decade
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Post by Dwight on Apr 12, 2009 22:56:41 GMT -5
Shamrock tends to be thought highly of because Angle and Benoit made the submission stuff more popular. But he never had many great matches at all. Most people I knew liked him back in the day and I thought he was decent. You're right though. He never really had any true "classics". He also never had noteworthy feuds that could take him to the next level. Went over Bret, fought with Shawn for the belt. He was really over and for that alone is why I think he could've been champ. I'll say it again, he got screwed around a lot later in his career and people really stopped caring about him. Especially when he went heel. |
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Apr 13, 2009 8:53:56 GMT -5
Shamrock has said repeatedly in interviews that the road schedule and wear & tear of being a pro wrestler was far harder on him than MMA. Whether that's true or not (and I don't doubt it), maybe his push fizzled out because people in the WWF could sense that he was losing interest in being there.
He did go back to MMA, after all... maybe he talked about it a lot before actually doing it. Just a thought.
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Post by k5 on Apr 13, 2009 10:58:45 GMT -5
mma was probably where his love was. wwf was a commodity and moneymaker to him
i did love his gimmick of being the absolute snapcase, and it was sweet at wrestlemania 14 when he took out all those referees
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Post by shadyinc on Apr 13, 2009 18:04:11 GMT -5
i wouldnt have minded to see shamrock with the world title atleast one run with it
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Post by NCWA on Apr 16, 2009 16:36:38 GMT -5
Let's also not forget Shamrock's other flaws. He was known for calling his matches right in plain view of the camera, had to be carried pretty constantly by better wrestlers, and he couldn't cut a promo. It was absolutely unthinkable that during the Austin era, Shamrock would even touch the belt. How do you market a guy like him?
Nowadays, if Shamrock came along he probably would have ended up with one of the three World Titles, just because that type of wrestling is actually OVER now. People are into the submission stuff, and a character like his, especially with the MMA stuff, would be a godsend for WWE right now. But, as someone else said, Shammy was ahead of his time. The whole "tapping out" thing? Thank Ken for that. Nobody did that crap until he came to the WWF.
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Post by Matt on Apr 16, 2009 22:11:22 GMT -5
I enjoyed his style. It was a stiff in your face attitude meets submission and I thought it worked well. Shamrock was never that marketable, I remember his BCA being such shelf warmer.
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Post by carlitocool1 on Apr 17, 2009 5:23:21 GMT -5
Shamrock world champion.............Erm - have i missed something!!!
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