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Post by jfinnomore on Jun 8, 2009 15:45:54 GMT -5
either way Im not gonna say Punk is more over then Hardy cause we all know Jeff is one of the top 3 guys on the roster when it comes to getting over with the fans. However if Edge won that match and Punk cashed in on him I'm sure the crowd would of loved it. Yeah, of course they would have. Because he would have been doing it to a heel. WHICH WOULD HAVE MADE SENSE. its still does make sense if they do in fact turn punk heel. whats a more heel move then cashing in on the top face of that brand when he FINALLY got the world title?
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Post by WalterF on Jun 8, 2009 15:46:42 GMT -5
I think it was a good move. It was a suprise and obviously struck an emotional cord with people.
I think this could be the beginning of a great CM Punk heel run. I didn't order the PPV, but I just watched the footage of his coming out and cashing in ... it was heel from beginning to end. His mannerisms, the way he took down Jeff, just everything, the boo's. He was goin' heel and its a new fresh thing I think should be embraced. Punk is a great wrestler and deserves the win and the reign. I would like to see Jeff with a lengthy reign, but I am also very happy Punk got the belt and I'm even happier to see he's likely a hee lnow.
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Post by y2jsucks on Jun 8, 2009 15:47:18 GMT -5
But he didn't act like a heel. The way he acted was as a face finally acomplishing it. We'll see when the smackdown spoilers turn up. I'm putting money on it and saying we won't see him heel.
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Post by instant classic on Jun 8, 2009 15:47:26 GMT -5
What has punk done to deserve all those titles in WWE ?
the only reason he's champ is because of his life style... sadness.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 15:48:16 GMT -5
I think it was a good move. It was a suprise and obviously struck an emotional cord with people. I think this could be the beginning of a great CM Punk heel run. I didn't order the PPV, but I just watched the footage of his coming out and cashing in ... it was heel from beginning to end. His mannerisms, the way he took down Jeff, just everything, the boo's. He was goin' heel and its a new fresh thing I think should be embraced. Punk is a great wrestler and deserves the win and the reign. I would like to see Jeff with a lengthy reign, but I am also very happy Punk got the belt and I'm even happier to see he's likely a hee lnow. Except, he got NO boos... no cheers... no nothing. He literally got no reaction all night, apart from when he lifted Umaga up on his shoulders and beat him.
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Post by s☠e on Jun 8, 2009 15:49:25 GMT -5
If Edge won the ladder match and then Punk cashed in, he would've got a huge pop. 'Cuz in the 'WWE Universe' Punk is ALOT more 'liked' than Edge. The 'bad guy'. When Hardy won, and Punk cashed in, it was mixed, with prominent boos, because in the WWE Universe, whilst both men are good guys, Hardy is more liked. They don't boo Punk because he's 'bland' or 'mediocre'. Like it or not, there are much more other faces that are more blan than him. And his matches are ALOT less bland than most matches put out by WWE. They're by no means of the quality they once were, but that's hardly Punk's (or any wrestlers) fault. IT was just a matter of circumstances that he got booed like that. I'd guess a mixed reaction on SD, with mainly cheers (even though it will apear solely cheers thanks to that ing canned pop)....until Jeff comes out, where it'll be like 75/25 in favour of Jeff.
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Jun 8, 2009 15:49:54 GMT -5
What has punk done to deserve all those titles in WWE ? the only reason he's champ is because of his life style... sadness. 100% agreed. It really is pathetic. I can think of Mid-carders, who deserve more than Punk. Carlito is one.
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Post by Sam on Jun 8, 2009 15:50:51 GMT -5
I like him, but I didn't want him to win the title last night, so right now, he is on my naughty list.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 15:52:17 GMT -5
What has punk done to deserve all those titles in WWE ? the only reason he's champ is because of his life style... sadness. 100% agreed. It really is pathetic. I can think of Mid-carders, who deserve more than Punk. Carlito is one. MVP, Umaga, Benjamin, Morrison, Matt Hardy... they're all better wrestlers than Punk, ringwise and they all have a little more to them, than "that guy who doesn't do drugs."
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Post by instant classic on Jun 8, 2009 15:52:32 GMT -5
What has punk done to deserve all those titles in WWE ? the only reason he's champ is because of his life style... sadness. 100% agreed. It really is pathetic. I can think of Mid-carders, who deserve more than Punk. Carlito is one. So true, Carlito, Shelton, MVP just to name a few.
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Post by WalterF on Jun 8, 2009 15:52:32 GMT -5
I think it was a good move. It was a suprise and obviously struck an emotional cord with people. I think this could be the beginning of a great CM Punk heel run. I didn't order the PPV, but I just watched the footage of his coming out and cashing in ... it was heel from beginning to end. His mannerisms, the way he took down Jeff, just everything, the boo's. He was goin' heel and its a new fresh thing I think should be embraced. Punk is a great wrestler and deserves the win and the reign. I would like to see Jeff with a lengthy reign, but I am also very happy Punk got the belt and I'm even happier to see he's likely a hee lnow. Except, he got NO boos... no cheers... no nothing. He literally got no reaction all night, apart from when he lifted Umaga up on his shoulders and beat him. on the vid I watched, when he pinned Jeff I heard major boo's. it's not gonna be solid boo's from the beginning and end of him being out because he is a face and it's gonna take a little pushing to make people boo him, but the pinfall got him boo's from what I heard. Also, he was def. made out to be a heel. It may have bee na little subtle, but he was acting heel. Especially if you look at how defenseless Jeff looked. When Punk stood there jumpin up and down lookin at Jeff and Jeff just kind wobbled up and Punk went after him ... that's a ruthless thing right there, kayfabe wise ... especially because Jeff is so beloved. Watchin the hero Jeff barely win the belt, to be ripped apart when hes defenseless right after was done on PURPOSE, trust me. There's no way WWE didn't know Punk was gonna be looked at in a negative light by fans after doing that.
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Post by Gazza on Jun 8, 2009 15:53:06 GMT -5
How can you say Umaga has done more than Punk? Just look at the facts. CM Punk- 2x World Champion 2x Money In the Bank 1x Intercontinental Champion 1 x ECW Champion 1x World Tag Team Champion Umaga- 2x Intercontinetal Champion So,Umaga has done more how? Dude be serious. Title reigns are ing redundant, the fact Punk has more than means nothing especially since, except the ECW one, all were pretty pointless and did nothing to get Punk over. Do you even know what your talking about? Ofcourse the title reigns was to put him over, thats the ing idea.
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Post by y2jsucks on Jun 8, 2009 15:53:56 GMT -5
We'll see when the spoilers turn up. That's all im going to say on it.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 15:54:12 GMT -5
Except, he got NO boos... no cheers... no nothing. He literally got no reaction all night, apart from when he lifted Umaga up on his shoulders and beat him. on the vid I watched, when he pinned Jeff I heard major boo's. it's not gonna be solid boo's from the beginning and end of him being out because he is a face and it's gonna take a little pushing to make people boo him, but the pinfall got him boo's from what I heard. Also, he was def. made out to be a heel. It may have bee na little subtle, but he was acting heel. Especially if you look at how defenseless Jeff looked. When Punk stood there jumpin up and down lookin at Jeff and Jeff just kind wobbled up and Punk went after him ... that's a ruthless thing right there, kayfabe wise ... especially because Jeff is so beloved. Watchin the hero Jeff barely win the belt, to be ripped apart when hes defenseless right after was done on PURPOSE, trust me. There's no way WWE didn't know Punk was gonna be looked at in a negative light by fans after doing that. Well, I agree with the last part. I am still sticking to my word, that Punk isn't over enough, or hasn't shown enough of himself, to get all the titles, he has accomplished, though...
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 15:54:58 GMT -5
Dude be serious. Title reigns are ing redundant, the fact Punk has more than means nothing especially since, except the ECW one, all were pretty pointless and did nothing to get Punk over. Do you even know what your talking about? Ofcourse the title reigns was to put him over, thats the ing idea. Funny... because he still gets little to no reaction. The only time he gets a big reaction, is in Chicago...
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Post by instant classic on Jun 8, 2009 15:55:09 GMT -5
Except, he got NO boos... no cheers... no nothing. He literally got no reaction all night, apart from when he lifted Umaga up on his shoulders and beat him. on the vid I watched, when he pinned Jeff I heard major boo's. you herd boos because the crowd was like wtf this is lame.... not because punk is some magnificent heel.
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Post by y2jsucks on Jun 8, 2009 15:55:49 GMT -5
Dude be serious. Title reigns are ing redundant, the fact Punk has more than means nothing especially since, except the ECW one, all were pretty pointless and did nothing to get Punk over. Do you even know what your talking about? Ofcourse the title reigns was to put him over, thats the ing idea. He didn't say that... He said they didn't do anything to get him over, which tbh they didn't because he was in the same position after every title.
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Post by DKR on Jun 8, 2009 15:56:59 GMT -5
100% agreed. It really is pathetic. I can think of Mid-carders, who deserve more than Punk. Carlito is one. MVP, Umaga, Benjamin, Morrison, Matt Hardy... they're all better wrestlers than Punk, ringwise and they all have a little more to them, than "that guy who doesn't do drugs." I have been trying not to reply to any of your posts because I don't want to get into any arguments with people over the internet...but how the hell can you say that CM Punk gets no reaction from people and isn't "deserving" (like that even matters), but you list Shelton Benjamin as someone who is "deserving". Shelton Benjamin - the man NOBODY cares about. That guy gets one reaction a year, when he does a flip off a ladder at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Jun 8, 2009 15:58:30 GMT -5
Do you even know what your talking about? Ofcourse the title reigns was to put him over, thats the ing idea. Funny... because he still gets little to no reaction. The only time he gets a big reaction, is in Chicago... and even then, it's not that big. tbh, They most probably cheer him in Chicago becuase he wears the Chicago Cubs attire.
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Post by Sam on Jun 8, 2009 15:59:17 GMT -5
Do you even know what your talking about? Ofcourse the title reigns was to put him over, thats the ing idea. Funny... because he still gets little to no reaction. The only time he gets a big reaction, is in Chicago... Still, he doesn't get a huge reaction there. Only time he really did there was when he won the Intercontinental Championship from Regal.
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