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Post by Gazza on Jun 8, 2009 16:00:12 GMT -5
Do you even know what your talking about? Ofcourse the title reigns was to put him over, thats the ing idea. Funny... because he still gets little to no reaction. The only time he gets a big reaction, is in Chicago... He didn't get one last night because the fans wanted Jeff to win.... WF is full of ing retards.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 16:00:30 GMT -5
MVP, Umaga, Benjamin, Morrison, Matt Hardy... they're all better wrestlers than Punk, ringwise and they all have a little more to them, than "that guy who doesn't do drugs." I have been trying not to reply to any of your posts because I don't want to get into any arguments with people over the internet...but how the hell can you say that CM Punk gets no reaction from people and isn't "deserving" (like that even matters), but you list Shelton Benjamin as someone who is "deserving". Shelton Benjamin - the man NOBODY cares about. That guy gets one reaction a year, when he does a flip off a ladder at Wrestlemania. I'm not arguing, this is a debate, which is what these forums are for... People did care about Shelton as a face, I was stating him ringwise, that hes better than Punk and has more of a character to him... aka the Gold Standard. What is Punk's nickname? Oh thats right "the STRAIGHT EDGE Superstar"... irony...
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Post by WalterF on Jun 8, 2009 16:01:04 GMT -5
on the vid I watched, when he pinned Jeff I heard major boo's. you herd boos because the crowd was like wtf this is lame.... not because punk is some magnificent heel. I never said Punk was a magnificent heel ... especially if he's just turning now (which he may be im not saying def but he may be) it's impossible to be a magnificent heel until he really goes all the way. But by the crowd booing, even in a manner of "wtf this is lame" it still goes a big part of the way to making Punk a heel. The crowd will think "wtf this is lame" but the fault will fall on Punk and they will direct that attitude of "wtf" towards Punk and that may be what turns him heel, especially if he retaliates. A lot of turns start out slow, but Punk did some REALLY heel things last night and it can't be denied. Again, WWE wouldn't have Punk take such advantage of a beloved top face like Jeff w/o reason. He may not have gotten a loud reaction earlier in the night, but he's still a popular face and its gonna cause rifts when he does something significantly heelish like he did.
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Jun 8, 2009 16:02:43 GMT -5
MVP, Umaga, Benjamin, Morrison, Matt Hardy... they're all better wrestlers than Punk, ringwise and they all have a little more to them, than "that guy who doesn't do drugs." I have been trying not to reply to any of your posts because I don't want to get into any arguments with people over the internet...but how the hell can you say that CM Punk gets no reaction from people and isn't "deserving" (like that even matters), but you list Shelton Benjamin as someone who is "deserving". Shelton Benjamin - the man NOBODY cares about. That guy gets one reaction a year, when he does a flip off a ladder at Wrestlemania. I have to disagree completely. CM Punk has a very limited Moveset, therefore makes his matches boring and predictbale. Shelton has a great moveset, just a shame that WWE doesn't give a crap about him. Watch some of his matches back in 04, you'll eat your words.
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Post by instant classic on Jun 8, 2009 16:02:54 GMT -5
MVP, Umaga, Benjamin, Morrison, Matt Hardy... they're all better wrestlers than Punk, ringwise and they all have a little more to them, than "that guy who doesn't do drugs." I have been trying not to reply to any of your posts because I don't want to get into any arguments with people over the internet...but how the hell can you say that CM Punk gets no reaction from people and isn't "deserving" (like that even matters), but you list Shelton Benjamin as someone who is "deserving". Shelton Benjamin - the man NOBODY cares about. That guy gets one reaction a year, when he does a flip off a ladder at Wrestlemania. No... actually a lot of people care about shelton and think he is the best talent on the roster including myself... He's been with WWE for how long now?..... he was one the most over guys on RAW in 2004/2005... I'd be willing to bet money that if it were him cashing in MITB he'd get a 100x better reaction than CM Puke did.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 16:03:36 GMT -5
Funny... because he still gets little to no reaction. The only time he gets a big reaction, is in Chicago... He didn't get one last night because the fans wanted Jeff to win.... WF is full of ing retards. I love how bungholes like you cannot debate maturely without calling people names. Its people like you, that get threads like this locked, because of your stupid cry baby antics. You're wrong. He didn't get a reaction, means that he didn't get boos either. If Edge cashed in on Jeff, he'd get boos. Punk didn't get cheers or boos, in the Umaga match either, apart from when he lifted him up on his shoulders (and honestly, WOULDN'T pop for that?). It's simple, in order to get a world title, 2 of them at that, you should atleast be favored by the audience, like Jeff Hardy is.
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Post by Jimmy on Jun 8, 2009 16:04:15 GMT -5
I'd be willing to bet money that if it were him cashing in MITB he'd get a 100x better reaction than CM Puke did. ...seriously guy? I love Shelton, but that's just a flat out falsehood.
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Post by Gazza on Jun 8, 2009 16:04:43 GMT -5
He didn't get one last night because the fans wanted Jeff to win.... WF is full of ing retards. I love how bungholes like you cannot debate maturely without calling people names. Its people like you, that get threads like this locked, because of your stupid cry baby antics. You're wrong. He didn't get a reaction, means that he didn't get boos either. If Edge cashed in on Jeff, he'd get boos. Punk didn't get cheers or boos, in the Umaga match either, apart from when he lifted him up on his shoulders (and honestly, WOULDN'T pop for that?). It's simple, in order to get a world title, 2 of them at that, you should atleast be favored by the audience, like Jeff Hardy is. People like me?Realy? So its not the wits wishing death on Punk? Idiot.
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Post by Sam on Jun 8, 2009 16:05:16 GMT -5
He didn't get one last night because the fans wanted Jeff to win.... WF is full of ing retards. I love how bungholes like you cannot debate maturely without calling people names. Its people like you, that get threads like this locked, because of your stupid cry baby antics. You're wrong. He didn't get a reaction, means that he didn't get boos either. If Edge cashed in on Jeff, he'd get boos. Punk didn't get cheers or boos, in the Umaga match either, apart from when he lifted him up on his shoulders (and honestly, WOULDN'T pop for that?). It's simple, in order to get a world title, 2 of them at that, you should atleast be favored by the audience, like Jeff Hardy is. I just hope that this leads to a Jeff Hardy/CM Punk feud and Punk can turn into a somewhat heel.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 16:05:46 GMT -5
I love how bungholes like you cannot debate maturely without calling people names. Its people like you, that get threads like this locked, because of your stupid cry baby antics. You're wrong. He didn't get a reaction, means that he didn't get boos either. If Edge cashed in on Jeff, he'd get boos. Punk didn't get cheers or boos, in the Umaga match either, apart from when he lifted him up on his shoulders (and honestly, WOULDN'T pop for that?). It's simple, in order to get a world title, 2 of them at that, you should atleast be favored by the audience, like Jeff Hardy is. People like me?Realy? So its not the wits wishing death on Punk? Idiot. They were joking, you're not. If you can't debate maturely, go away.
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Post by WalterF on Jun 8, 2009 16:05:47 GMT -5
I'd be willing to bet money that if it were him cashing in MITB he'd get a 100x better reaction than CM Puke did. ...seriously guy? I love Shelton, but that's just a flat out falsehood. I agree. I love Shelton, but c'mon ... you know he wouldn't have gotten a bigger reaction than Punk if he won. I know all of you say Punk never gets a reaction anymore and maybe he doesn't get as loud a reaction as when he was in ECW, but he still gets a decent pop and is really popular. I think you're kinda overexaggerating his lack of reaction a tiny bit.
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Post by Jimmy on Jun 8, 2009 16:05:54 GMT -5
He didn't get one last night because the fans wanted Jeff to win.... WF is full of ing retards. I love how bungholes like you cannot debate maturely without calling people names. Its people like you, that get threads like this locked, because of your stupid cry baby antics. You're wrong. He didn't get a reaction, means that he didn't get boos either. If Edge cashed in on Jeff, he'd get boos. Punk didn't get cheers or boos, in the Umaga match either, apart from when he lifted him up on his shoulders (and honestly, WOULDN'T pop for that?). It's simple, in order to get a world title, 2 of them at that, you should atleast be favored by the audience, like Jeff Hardy is. No I've already requested that Shocker lock this thread, because I was hoping for a frank and intelligent discussion that would put aside biases and discuss an issue in wrestling. People flat out denying that CM Punk gets good reactions from the crowd kills this thread dead. You're lying to yourself if you believe that.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jun 8, 2009 16:06:03 GMT -5
Topic has been locked at the request of the topic starter.
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