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Post by 1992 on Jun 8, 2009 2:43:03 GMT -5
He'd win it however the writers/booker/whoever told him he would. You're not on staff with WWE, so you don't know they wouldn't make him win it cleanly. Exactly.. Punk was telling everybody he wanted to cash it in, in a proper match - but it didn't mean he was going to.. So when was the last time you two talked?
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Post by Edge618 on Jun 8, 2009 2:43:38 GMT -5
He'd win it however the writers/booker/whoever told him he would. You're not on staff with WWE, so you don't know they wouldn't make him win it cleanly. Exactly.. Punk was telling everybody he wanted to cash it in, in a proper match - but it didn't mean he was going to.. Yeah, everyone expected him to do it at Judgement Day because of what he said in that interview, but that was how HE wanted to do it, not how creative wanted to do it.
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Post by Edge618 on Jun 8, 2009 2:44:21 GMT -5
Exactly.. Punk was telling everybody he wanted to cash it in, in a proper match - but it didn't mean he was going to.. So when was the last time you two talked? Dude its been in interviews and stuff.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 2:44:30 GMT -5
How is that the same? MVP has had two US titles and a Tag Team title... if he won the title, yeah I'd obviously mark out. Because he would win it clean, over a champion like Batista or Orton... he wouldn't cheat his way into it cheaply by beating Jeff Hardy. And yeah, I know he was planned to do it or whatever, but I'm thinking WWE world here, Jeff Hardy deserved the title, CM Punk shouldn't have even got it the first time Its the same because your sayin CM Punk doesnt deserve it and all this, but you want someone whose accomplished less than him to be the main event. Like Chicago Manufactured said, youd love it if it were MVP and wouldnt complain a bit, even though Punk has busted his ass WAY harder than MVP. Um no. MVP had to complete fuking prison, to get where he is. How is that "working harder"? Because CM Punk went through the indies for 10 years? MVP went through them for 5 years, what exactly is your point and where is this proof, that he worked harder than him, just because he had a couple of lowkick snoozefests with Samoa Joe?
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Post by AdamBomb on Jun 8, 2009 2:45:13 GMT -5
He'd win it however the writers/booker/whoever told him he would. You're not on staff with WWE, so you don't know they wouldn't make him win it cleanly. Exactly.. Punk was telling everybody he wanted to cash it in, in a proper match - but it didn't mean he was going to.. Hell, Punk also wanted to defend the I.C. Title at WM25, and have a good reign. Unfortunately (kind of) he lost it, and got slapped in the MITB. Don't blame Punk if you're not a fan, blame the people behind the scenes who like him. Oh no, WWE sees a future star in someone and is trying to capitalize on it!!! The world is going to end!
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Post by 1992 on Jun 8, 2009 2:45:25 GMT -5
So when was the last time you two talked? Dude its been in interviews and stuff. Lol, I figured but it just came off like he had told you personally or something.
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Post by AdamBomb on Jun 8, 2009 2:46:40 GMT -5
Its the same because your sayin CM Punk doesnt deserve it and all this, but you want someone whose accomplished less than him to be the main event. Like Chicago Manufactured said, youd love it if it were MVP and wouldnt complain a bit, even though Punk has busted his ass WAY harder than MVP. Um no. MVP had to complete fuking prison, to get where he is. How is that "working harder"? Because CM Punk went through the indies for 10 years? MVP went through them for 5 years, what exactly is your point and where is this proof, that he worked harder than him, just because he had a couple of lowkick snoozefests with Samoa Joe? Who's ing fault is it MVP was sent to prison? Why in the blue Hell should he be rewarded for that? . In the grand scheme of things Punk did work harder, and kept himself out of trouble, unlike MVP.
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Jun 8, 2009 2:47:17 GMT -5
I personally can't stand him. I dunno why, I've never liked him ever since he made his debut. Another thing, is that he is very average yet has won nearly everything in WWE, only in 3 years FFS!
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 2:49:02 GMT -5
Um no. MVP had to complete fuking prison, to get where he is. How is that "working harder"? Because CM Punk went through the indies for 10 years? MVP went through them for 5 years, what exactly is your point and where is this proof, that he worked harder than him, just because he had a couple of lowkick snoozefests with Samoa Joe? Who's ing fault is it MVP was sent to prison? Why in the blue Hell should he be rewarded for that? . Uh... MVP? You said he worked harder, just because you were all jizzing over your computer screens at his lowkick snoozefests with Joe. How is having a couple of 5 star matches, working harder than completing prison, going on the indies and getting into the biggest company in the world? I'm not saying it wasn't his fault, I'm just saying... its obviously harder to get through prison and get to the top.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 2:50:20 GMT -5
Exactly.. Punk was telling everybody he wanted to cash it in, in a proper match - but it didn't mean he was going to.. Hell, Punk also wanted to defend the I.C. Title at WM25, and have a good reign. Unfortunately (kind of) he lost it, and got slapped in the MITB. Don't blame Punk if you're not a fan, blame the people behind the scenes who like him. Oh no, WWE sees a future star in someone and is trying to capitalize on it!!! The world is going to end! I know they booked him, you nimrod. I'm saying that they booked him wrong, and that if it was MVP, he wouldn't have done it that way, which would make me happier to see it...
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Post by Edge618 on Jun 8, 2009 2:51:19 GMT -5
Yeah, like I said before... this is just sour grapes, because Punk's got all this over MVP.. If MVP was in Punk's position, you'd be loving it.. If Vince thinks he deserves it, then he deserves it - which he does.. If MVP or Kennedy had cashed in on Hardy, like Punk did, you would've creamed yourself.. Nope. No sour grapes, It just started getting ridiculous after he's won everything in a span of 3 years. He's won every title on his respective show, at that time. He should have only got the ECW title, the tag title and the IC title. And yeah, I probably would have "creamed myself" if it was Kennedy or MVP, because they actually had... you know, a bit of character and interest in them. When you think of CM Punk, what do you think of? I mean, when you think of Kennedy, you think of a loudmouth guy who kept getting unlucky in his chances. When you think of MVP, you think money or whatever... now when you think of CM Punk, you think "straight edge", not "title stealer", that is Edge's thing. I just think its pathetic that WWE are giving Punk EVERYTHING just because he's straight edge. And proof, you ask? Well what else has he done in the WWE, apart from not smoke, drink or stick a needle in his ass? Well, name ONE memorable match he has had, that would stick out in a fans mind, to get all of this? The only good match, I remember was the Rey Mysterio one at Armaggedon. He hasn't had any memorable moments, absolutely none... K forget all your stupid rambling. You hate on CM Punk for what he has done, butwould love if Kennedy and MVP accomplished the same. CM Punk has worked harder than MVP and Kennedy combined. And CM Punk hasnt had any memorable moments?? How about cashing in MITB TWICE, winning MITB....TWICE, and all of his matches with Jericho were great. What are Kennedy's and MVP's memorable moments?? MVP:Having a long losing streak, getting set on fire by Kane, getting dominated by Matt Hardy. Kennedy: Injury, MITB win, Losing MITB, Injury, Return, Injury, Release. Seriously give me an MVP or Kennedy match and ill give you a CM Punk match that is undoubtedly better.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jun 8, 2009 2:51:52 GMT -5
When you think of CM Punk, what do you think of? I mean, when you think of Kennedy, you think of a loudmouth guy who kept getting unlucky in his chances. When you think of MVP, you think money or whatever... now when you think of CM Punk, you think "straight edge", not "title stealer", that is Edge's thing. I just think its pathetic that WWE are giving Punk EVERYTHING just because he's straight edge. And proof, you ask? Well what else has he done in the WWE, apart from not smoke, drink or stick a needle in his ass? Well, name ONE memorable match he has had, that would stick out in a fans mind, to get all of this? The only good match, I remember was the Rey Mysterio one at Armaggedon. He hasn't had any memorable moments, absolutely none... His sXe lifestyle isn't the only reason he's over. I don't think WWE would push any Joe Schmo who said he lived clean and liked hardcore music. Punk's got a subtle charisma and he can work some good matches, like he did with John Morrison. Certainly the backlash against drugs, particularly steroids, has set the stage for Punk but what of that? 'Roids helped quite a few guys get in the spotlight in the past.
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Post by Edge618 on Jun 8, 2009 2:52:30 GMT -5
Its the same because your sayin CM Punk doesnt deserve it and all this, but you want someone whose accomplished less than him to be the main event. Like Chicago Manufactured said, youd love it if it were MVP and wouldnt complain a bit, even though Punk has busted his ass WAY harder than MVP. Um no. MVP had to complete fuking prison, to get where he is. How is that "working harder"? Because CM Punk went through the indies for 10 years? MVP went through them for 5 years, what exactly is your point and where is this proof, that he worked harder than him, just because he had a couple of lowkick snoozefests with Samoa Joe? MVP went to prison for his own stupid mistakes, you dont get a medal for getting through it. Going to prison isnt "working hard" When someone gets out of prison, do people say "hey lets give him a job, he went to prison so you know he's a hard worker!"
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Post by AdamBomb on Jun 8, 2009 2:53:02 GMT -5
Who's ing fault is it MVP was sent to prison? Why in the blue Hell should he be rewarded for that? . Uh... MVP? You said he worked harder, just because you were all jizzing over your computer screens at his lowkick snoozefests with Joe. How is having a couple of 5 star matches, working harder than completing prison, going on the indies and getting into the biggest company in the world? I'm not saying it wasn't his fault, I'm just saying... its obviously harder to get through prison and get to the top. Oh my God, are you really trying to argue that bull**** with me? Did you pull a Kennedy and hit your head on something? CM Punk worked his ass off the RIGHT way to be where he is, who should be rewarded more? A guy who kept himself out of trouble and clean for years, or a guy who had to have a prison sentence come into his life to make him wake up and pull his head out of his ass?
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Post by 1992 on Jun 8, 2009 2:54:45 GMT -5
If it makes anyone feel any better, I like CM Punk, Mr. Kennedy, Jeff Hardy, and MVP all the same.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jun 8, 2009 2:55:21 GMT -5
Hell, Punk also wanted to defend the I.C. Title at WM25, and have a good reign. Unfortunately (kind of) he lost it, and got slapped in the MITB. Don't blame Punk if you're not a fan, blame the people behind the scenes who like him. Oh no, WWE sees a future star in someone and is trying to capitalize on it!!! The world is going to end! I know they booked him, you nimrod. I'm saying that they booked him wrong, and that if it was MVP, he wouldn't have done it that way, which would make me happier to see it... How do you know?..
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Post by Edge618 on Jun 8, 2009 2:56:08 GMT -5
If it makes anyone feel any better, I like CM Punk, Mr. Kennedy, Jeff Hardy, and MVP all the same. lol +1 peacemaker ha ha
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 2:57:03 GMT -5
Um no. MVP had to complete fuking prison, to get where he is. How is that "working harder"? Because CM Punk went through the indies for 10 years? MVP went through them for 5 years, what exactly is your point and where is this proof, that he worked harder than him, just because he had a couple of lowkick snoozefests with Samoa Joe? MVP went to prison for his own stupid mistakes, you dont get a medal for getting through it. Going to prison isnt "working hard" No but getting out of it and getting to the top, all in one go IS hard. No, you're wrong again. You're forgetting something - I don't like what Punk has done and don't think he deserved it in such a short time. MVP and Kennedy winning it would be different, as they bring much more to the table for me and have more of a character to them. Cashing in MITB twice, is hardly memorable, Edge will always be remembered for doing that. You could hear a pin drop when he cashed in...
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jun 8, 2009 2:58:22 GMT -5
Um no. MVP had to complete fuking prison, to get where he is. How is that "working harder"? Because CM Punk went through the indies for 10 years? MVP went through them for 5 years, what exactly is your point and where is this proof, that he worked harder than him, just because he had a couple of lowkick snoozefests with Samoa Joe? MVP went to prison for his own stupid mistakes, you dont get a medal for getting through it. Going to prison isnt "working hard" When someone gets out of prison, do people say "hey lets give him a job, he went to prison so you know he's a hard worker!" You could say similar things about Jeff Hardy. He would have longer/more title reigns if he had stayed clean in the past.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 2:58:53 GMT -5
Uh... MVP? You said he worked harder, just because you were all jizzing over your computer screens at his lowkick snoozefests with Joe. How is having a couple of 5 star matches, working harder than completing prison, going on the indies and getting into the biggest company in the world? I'm not saying it wasn't his fault, I'm just saying... its obviously harder to get through prison and get to the top. Oh my God, are you really trying to argue that bull**** with me? Did you pull a Kennedy and hit your head on something? CM Punk worked his ass off the RIGHT way to be where he is, who should be rewarded more? A guy who kept himself out of trouble and clean for years, or a guy who had to have a prison sentence come into his life to make him wake up and pull his head out of his ass? For crying out loud... MVP WENT THROUGH PRISON, DID THE INDIES AND GOT TO THE WWE, THAT IS HARDER THAN STAYING CLEAN AND GETTING TO IT. Do you get what the hell, I am saying? And I know they wouldn't do it with MVP, because he is a newly turned face, why would they turn him back heel so soon?
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