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Post by Edge618 on Jun 8, 2009 2:59:25 GMT -5
MVP went to prison for his own stupid mistakes, you dont get a medal for getting through it. Going to prison isnt "working hard" No but getting out of it and getting to the top, all in one go IS hard. No, you're wrong again. You're forgetting something - I don't like what Punk has done and don't think he deserved it in such a short time. MVP and Kennedy winning it would be different, as they bring much more to the table for me and have more of a character to them. Cashing in MITB twice, is hardly memorable, Edge will always be remembered for doing that. You could hear a pin drop when he cashed in... Whatever dude, Im not wrong. This is our opinions, but the fact is that Kennedy got released, and MVP isnt at Punk's level yet. FACTS. So could you think of a Kennedy or MVP match that could top a Punk match??? Didn't think so.
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Post by AdamBomb on Jun 8, 2009 2:59:33 GMT -5
MVP went to prison for his own stupid mistakes, you dont get a medal for getting through it. Going to prison isnt "working hard" No but getting out of it and getting to the top, all in one go IS hard. No, you're wrong again. You're forgetting something - I don't like what Punk has done and don't think he deserved it in such a short time. MVP and Kennedy winning it would be different, as they bring much more to the table for me and have more of a character to them. Cashing in MITB twice, is hardly memorable, Edge will always be remembered for doing that. You could hear a pin drop when he cashed in... Just because it's your opinion, doesn't mean it'd be good for business.
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Post by 1992 on Jun 8, 2009 3:01:06 GMT -5
If it makes anyone feel any better, I like CM Punk, Mr. Kennedy, Jeff Hardy, and MVP all the same. lol +1 peacemaker ha ha I'll admit at first I was super pissed that Punk rained on Jeff's parade. but after the 11 year old WWF mark inside of me went back to his cave...I can actually live with the thought of Punk being WHC. A DIRTY WHC Punk just sounds fantastic though...
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Post by deskjet on Jun 8, 2009 3:01:46 GMT -5
im indifferent. When he first cam in me and some others cot hell for bashin the guys sloppy in ring work. years later it seems most people have seen the light although I'll give him some credit, he's made some improvements. I think he can be a good heel if this isthe direction they push him. I dont like that he won mitb or that he won the title last night so we'll see where wwe goes with this.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 3:03:01 GMT -5
No but getting out of it and getting to the top, all in one go IS hard. No, you're wrong again. You're forgetting something - I don't like what Punk has done and don't think he deserved it in such a short time. MVP and Kennedy winning it would be different, as they bring much more to the table for me and have more of a character to them. Cashing in MITB twice, is hardly memorable, Edge will always be remembered for doing that. You could hear a pin drop when he cashed in... Whatever dude, Im not wrong. This is our opinions, but the fact is that Kennedy got released, and MVP isnt at Punk's level yet. FACTS. So could you think of a Kennedy or MVP match that could top a Punk match??? Didn't think so. No you are wrong and this isn't about opinions, you said I would love it if MVP did it, and I would. Because he brings more to the table than Punk does. You're trying to say they're one in the same, and they're not. Hence why I don't think he deserves it, as much as people like Jeff Hardy.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 3:04:18 GMT -5
No but getting out of it and getting to the top, all in one go IS hard. No, you're wrong again. You're forgetting something - I don't like what Punk has done and don't think he deserved it in such a short time. MVP and Kennedy winning it would be different, as they bring much more to the table for me and have more of a character to them. Cashing in MITB twice, is hardly memorable, Edge will always be remembered for doing that. You could hear a pin drop when he cashed in... Just because it's your opinion, doesn't mean it'd be good for business. Right, because giving a title to a guy who barely even gets a reaction, is good business . MVP gets a reaction and had the crowd behind him tonight, Punk could barely do that until he lifted Umaga up on his shoulders, the same guy who was getting CHEERS, for christ sakes...
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jun 8, 2009 3:04:50 GMT -5
Oh my God, are you really trying to argue that bull**** with me? Did you pull a Kennedy and hit your head on something? CM Punk worked his ass off the RIGHT way to be where he is, who should be rewarded more? A guy who kept himself out of trouble and clean for years, or a guy who had to have a prison sentence come into his life to make him wake up and pull his head out of his ass? For crying out loud... MVP WENT THROUGH PRISON, DID THE INDIES AND GOT TO THE WWE, THAT IS HARDER THAN STAYING CLEAN AND GETTING TO IT. Do you get what the hell, I am saying? And I know they wouldn't do it with MVP, because he is a newly turned face, why would they turn him back heel so soon? Just 'cos he cashed in on the biggest face in the company, doesn't mean Punk will go heel.. He can just say that he was going to cash in on whoever won the match - and it just happened to be Hardy.. The title comes first, and before any potential allegience Punk and Hardy may have had..
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Post by AdamBomb on Jun 8, 2009 3:05:17 GMT -5
Whatever dude, Im not wrong. This is our opinions, but the fact is that Kennedy got released, and MVP isnt at Punk's level yet. FACTS. So could you think of a Kennedy or MVP match that could top a Punk match??? Didn't think so. No you are wrong and this isn't about opinions, you said I would love it if MVP did it, and I would. Because he brings more to the table than Punk does. You're trying to say they're one in the same, and they're not. Hence why I don't think he deserves it, as much as people like Jeff Hardy. Your post said you think they bring more to the table FOR YOU - that is a ing opinion. Obviously it IS about opinions.
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Post by Edge618 on Jun 8, 2009 3:06:10 GMT -5
Whatever dude, Im not wrong. This is our opinions, but the fact is that Kennedy got released, and MVP isnt at Punk's level yet. FACTS. So could you think of a Kennedy or MVP match that could top a Punk match??? Didn't think so. No you are wrong and this isn't about opinions, you said I would love it if MVP did it, and I would. Because he brings more to the table than Punk does. You're trying to say they're one in the same, and they're not. Hence why I don't think he deserves it, as much as people like Jeff Hardy. He does not bring more to the table, if he did he would be where Punk is at, but he's not Still waiting on that match.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 3:07:24 GMT -5
For crying out loud... MVP WENT THROUGH PRISON, DID THE INDIES AND GOT TO THE WWE, THAT IS HARDER THAN STAYING CLEAN AND GETTING TO IT. Do you get what the hell, I am saying? And I know they wouldn't do it with MVP, because he is a newly turned face, why would they turn him back heel so soon? Just 'cos he cashed in on the biggest face in the company, doesn't mean Punk will go heel.. He can just say that he was going to cash in on whoever won the match - and it just happened to be Hardy.. The title comes first, and before any potential allegience Punk and Hardy may have had.. If the title came first, then why did he cheat his way into getting it, crushing Jeff's dream and not just wait until the Bash and do it the clean way? Obviously they're slowly turning him heel...
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Post by HugoOne on Jun 8, 2009 3:08:18 GMT -5
Its the same because your sayin CM Punk doesnt deserve it and all this, but you want someone whose accomplished less than him to be the main event. Like Chicago Manufactured said, youd love it if it were MVP and wouldnt complain a bit, even though Punk has busted his ass WAY harder than MVP. Um no. MVP had to complete fuking prison, to get where he is. How is that "working harder"? Because CM Punk went through the indies for 10 years? MVP went through them for 5 years, what exactly is your point and where is this proof, that he worked harder than him, just because he had a couple of lowkick snoozefests with Samoa Joe? I love MVP and everything, but how getting through prison earn you a main event spot? I think he deserves it and everything, but definitely not because he's been to prison. That should have no impact whatsoever on his wrestling career. In the same regard of "working the indys", CM Punk has done more than MVP to earn his spot. Those "lowkick snoozefests" are held in high regards and are quite exceptional. CM Punk has a well established career from the indys and MVP doesn't have much of a publicized track record outside of the WWE.
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Post by Edge618 on Jun 8, 2009 3:08:22 GMT -5
Just 'cos he cashed in on the biggest face in the company, doesn't mean Punk will go heel.. He can just say that he was going to cash in on whoever won the match - and it just happened to be Hardy.. The title comes first, and before any potential allegience Punk and Hardy may have had.. If the title came first, then why did he cheat his way into getting it, crushing Jeff's dream and not just wait until the Bash and do it the clean way? Obviously they're slowly turning him heel... But your always wrong so you mean he's staying face right??
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Post by AdamBomb on Jun 8, 2009 3:09:29 GMT -5
Oh my God, are you really trying to argue that bull**** with me? Did you pull a Kennedy and hit your head on something? CM Punk worked his ass off the RIGHT way to be where he is, who should be rewarded more? A guy who kept himself out of trouble and clean for years, or a guy who had to have a prison sentence come into his life to make him wake up and pull his head out of his ass? For crying out loud... MVP WENT THROUGH PRISON, DID THE INDIES AND GOT TO THE WWE, THAT IS HARDER THAN STAYING CLEAN AND GETTING TO IT. Do you get what the hell, I am saying? And I know they wouldn't do it with MVP, because he is a newly turned face, why would they turn him back heel so soon? AND MVP MADE THE CHOICES THAT LANDED HIM IN PRISON. It's his OWN FAULT, and just because he had to sit around for years in a prison with his thumb in his butt trying to get his life straight doesn't mean he should be rewarded more than someone who never made those dumbass choices.
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Post by pineappleexpress on Jun 8, 2009 3:09:44 GMT -5
Very much indifferent.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 3:10:44 GMT -5
No you are wrong and this isn't about opinions, you said I would love it if MVP did it, and I would. Because he brings more to the table than Punk does. You're trying to say they're one in the same, and they're not. Hence why I don't think he deserves it, as much as people like Jeff Hardy. Your post said you think they bring more to the table FOR YOU - that is a ing opinion. Obviously it IS about opinions. God, you are a moron... I am talking about how he was wrong for thinking Punk and MVP were one in the same and that I would love it, if MVP did it, just because of that - I am an MVP fan. He's making out that MVP doesn't bring more to the table for me. And you mean, Smackdown? Tell me this - how many titles had Punk got, before the whole steriod bullcrap came out? ZERO. Fast forward to 2 years later and he's held every single title, possible for him to hold. They're pushing him because he's clean, why else would they? He's not showed anybody anything special in the ring, and he never even has the mic.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 8, 2009 3:12:50 GMT -5
For crying out loud... MVP WENT THROUGH PRISON, DID THE INDIES AND GOT TO THE WWE, THAT IS HARDER THAN STAYING CLEAN AND GETTING TO IT. Do you get what the hell, I am saying? And I know they wouldn't do it with MVP, because he is a newly turned face, why would they turn him back heel so soon? AND MVP MADE THE CHOICES THAT LANDED HIM IN PRISON. It's his OWN FAULT, and just because he had to sit around for years in a prison with his thumb in his butt trying to get his life straight doesn't mean he should be rewarded more than someone who never made those dumbass choices. Do you need glasses? I am saying that MVP had to go through prison with his finger in his ass, get to the indies and get to the WWE, its harder to do that than it is to stay cleana and get to the WWE. What is so hard to understand? Where have I said MVP didn't make those decisions? I am saying that he had to get himself out of those decisions and get to the top. Punk had no decisions, to get himself out of. So how did he "work harder"?
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Post by deskjet on Jun 8, 2009 3:14:25 GMT -5
jeff hardy>cm punk
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Post by AdamBomb on Jun 8, 2009 3:14:54 GMT -5
Your post said you think they bring more to the table FOR YOU - that is a ing opinion. Obviously it IS about opinions. God, you are a moron... I am talking about how he was wrong for thinking Punk and MVP were one in the same and that I would love it, if MVP did it, just because of that - I am an MVP fan. He's making out that MVP doesn't bring more to the table for me. And you mean, Smackdown? Tell me this - how many titles had Punk got, before the whole steriod bullcrap came out? ZERO. Fast forward to 2 years later and he's held every single title, possible for him to hold. They're pushing him because he's clean, why else would they? He's not showed anybody anything special in the ring, and he never even has the mic. Oh boy, let's trade name calling. I'm not sure if you realize this, but every here, ever since the big Kennedy thread thinks you, are a moron. And before the 'steroid' crap - which was in part due to Benoit... before that, the night all the stuff started, he was booked in an ECW Title match with Benoit... and we'll never really know who would have came out on top in that match, because it never happened. Before all of that, he held many titles on the indies.
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Post by Edge618 on Jun 8, 2009 3:15:39 GMT -5
Your post said you think they bring more to the table FOR YOU - that is a ing opinion. Obviously it IS about opinions. God, you are a moron... I am talking about how he was wrong for thinking Punk and MVP were one in the same and that I would love it, if MVP did it, just because of that - I am an MVP fan. He's making out that MVP doesn't bring more to the table for me. And you mean, Smackdown? Tell me this - how many titles had Punk got, before the whole steriod bullcrap came out? ZERO. Fast forward to 2 years later and he's held every single title, possible for him to hold. They're pushing him because he's clean, why else would they? He's not showed anybody anything special in the ring, and he never even has the mic. Tell me some of MVP's 5-star matches?? Or are you still ignoring giving me an MVP match better than a Punk match , because there arent any. Punk is better than MVP.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jun 8, 2009 3:15:54 GMT -5
Just 'cos he cashed in on the biggest face in the company, doesn't mean Punk will go heel.. He can just say that he was going to cash in on whoever won the match - and it just happened to be Hardy.. The title comes first, and before any potential allegience Punk and Hardy may have had.. If the title came first, then why did he cheat his way into getting it, crushing Jeff's dream and not just wait until the Bash and do it the clean way? Obviously they're slowly turning him heel... He didn't cheat his way into anything.. He earned it, by winning MITB match at WM.. the premise of MITB, is that the holder can cash in whenever and however he sees fit.. MITB is not meant to be cashed in "cleanly"... MITB is all about the surprise and unpredictability of when the cash-in happens..
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