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Post by SodaGuy on Jul 20, 2009 20:14:23 GMT -5
I honestly am a Jeff Jarrett fan but looking it at from a clean state, ignoring contracts and history and whatever else, I would choose Kurt Angle everyday of the week over Jeff Jarrett in that Kurt Angle sells more tickets, draws more ratings, sells more PPV's, and is a better all around performer than Jeff Jarrett. Yet.. Kurt hasn't put more eyes on the screen for TNA.
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Post by ppk101 on Jul 20, 2009 20:18:02 GMT -5
I can't believe all the love for JJ. Yes he founded the company, but now he is killing it. All the stuff you guys hate about TNA is strictly because of JJ. He fired the creative team and put himself, Russo and Dutch in charge. That was in the fall of 2006. Since then, I cannot remember ONE good booking/storyline they've done. Agreed.
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Post by Sam Hain on Jul 20, 2009 20:53:22 GMT -5
The point that people are missing is that this has nothing to due with Kurt and Karen. Wives and husbands cheat on each other all the time, it's a fact of life. I know for a fact that probably 99% of wrestlers cheat on their wives. For your wife to cheat on you with the man that controls your career and ultimately can make or break you....now that's different. Jeff was in the wrong, and needs to lose his job over this.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Jul 20, 2009 20:56:52 GMT -5
I honestly am a Jeff Jarrett fan but looking it at from a clean state, ignoring contracts and history and whatever else, I would choose Kurt Angle everyday of the week over Jeff Jarrett in that Kurt Angle sells more tickets, draws more ratings, sells more PPV's, and is a better all around performer than Jeff Jarrett. Where are you getting this BS from? Since Kurt joined, TNA didn't start gaining any ratings grounds when Kurt signed and appeared on TV. It sure helped them a bit but if Kurt was off of TNA, Spike wouldn't drop them and the ratings I doubt would dive.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jul 20, 2009 21:00:02 GMT -5
I honestly am a Jeff Jarrett fan but looking it at from a clean state, ignoring contracts and history and whatever else, I would choose Kurt Angle everyday of the week over Jeff Jarrett in that Kurt Angle sells more tickets, draws more ratings, sells more PPV's, and is a better all around performer than Jeff Jarrett. Where are you getting this BS from? Since Kurt joined, TNA didn't start gaining any ratings grounds when Kurt signed and appeared on TV. It sure helped them a bit but if Kurt was off of TNA, Spike wouldn't drop them and the ratings I doubt would dive. That's what I was saying. TNA got ALOT without Kurt Angle. - FSN deal. - SpikeTV deal - Trading Cards (the first series, not with Tristar) - The Midway contract - The Toybiz contract Angle is NOT the "holy grail" nor would TNA die a painful death without him.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Jul 20, 2009 21:01:29 GMT -5
People act as if when Christian or Kurt signed it gained momentum for TNA to super stardom. No, it didn't. It gave them some much needed footing, but with the way TNA is now, without Angle TNA wouldn't dive. But I do feel that without Jarrett, TNA would just flounder and go the way of the WWA and that Pro Wrestling X or whatever it was that was headlined by Hogan vs Hennig.
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Post by Mark on Jul 20, 2009 21:13:42 GMT -5
i wonder why Jarret didnt decline the advances from Karen
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 21:16:48 GMT -5
i wonder why Jarret didnt decline the advances from Karen ^ Cuz she's a freakin hotty. My opinion on all this: I SMELL RUSSO.
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Post by Jimmy on Jul 20, 2009 21:28:21 GMT -5
I honestly am a Jeff Jarrett fan but looking it at from a clean state, ignoring contracts and history and whatever else, I would choose Kurt Angle everyday of the week over Jeff Jarrett in that Kurt Angle sells more tickets, draws more ratings, sells more PPV's, and is a better all around performer than Jeff Jarrett. Where are you getting this BS from? Since Kurt joined, TNA didn't start gaining any ratings grounds when Kurt signed and appeared on TV. It sure helped them a bit but if Kurt was off of TNA, Spike wouldn't drop them and the ratings I doubt would dive. I'm not at all suggesting TNA would go out of business without Angle, I'm just saying that in theory of choosing just one, I would take Kurt Angle over Jeff Jarrett.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Jul 20, 2009 22:03:14 GMT -5
Where are you getting this BS from? Since Kurt joined, TNA didn't start gaining any ratings grounds when Kurt signed and appeared on TV. It sure helped them a bit but if Kurt was off of TNA, Spike wouldn't drop them and the ratings I doubt would dive. That's what I was saying. TNA got ALOT without Kurt Angle. - FSN deal.- Cancelled- SpikeTV deal- Spike loves it, but have you seen the rest of their programming outside of UFC that's really that good?- Trading Cards (the first series, not with Tristar)-? - The Midway contract- Sucked- The Toybiz contract- CancelledAngle is NOT the "holy grail" nor would TNA die a painful death without him. Jeff helped get these things, but they weren't that great. FSN they were on at what time? Jeff put Dusty Rhodes in control at one time and it was SOOOOOO BAD. His office was a god damn truck. Looking back, it amazes me TNA is still in business.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jul 20, 2009 22:42:12 GMT -5
That's what I was saying. TNA got ALOT without Kurt Angle. - FSN deal.- Cancelled- SpikeTV deal- Spike loves it, but have you seen the rest of their programming outside of UFC that's really that good?- Trading Cards (the first series, not with Tristar)-? - The Midway contract- Sucked- The Toybiz contract- CancelledAngle is NOT the "holy grail" nor would TNA die a painful death without him. Jeff helped get these things, but they weren't that great. FSN they were on at what time? Jeff put Dusty Rhodes in control at one time and it was SOOOOOO BAD. His office was a god damn truck. Looking back, it amazes me TNA is still in business. I never said they were great nor amazing though. I'm saying they got them without Kurt Angle.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Jul 20, 2009 22:55:43 GMT -5
Jeff helped get these things, but they weren't that great. FSN they were on at what time? Jeff put Dusty Rhodes in control at one time and it was SOOOOOO BAD. His office was a god damn truck. Looking back, it amazes me TNA is still in business. I never said they were great nor amazing though. I'm saying they got them without Kurt Angle. But they got 2 hours with Kurt Angle.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jul 20, 2009 22:57:04 GMT -5
I never said they were great nor amazing though. I'm saying they got them without Kurt Angle. But they got 2 hours with Kurt Angle. They could've easily gotten that without him though. They got moved to Thursdays without him and primetime without him so they could've gotten 2 hours.
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Post by Joey Cush on Jul 20, 2009 23:03:42 GMT -5
But they got 2 hours with Kurt Angle. They could've easily gotten that without him though. They got moved to Thursdays without him and primetime without him so they could've gotten 2 hours. And they could have gotten everything you posted before with Angle, probably even easier.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jul 20, 2009 23:06:28 GMT -5
They could've easily gotten that without him though. They got moved to Thursdays without him and primetime without him so they could've gotten 2 hours. And they could have gotten everything you posted before with Angle, probably even easier. And I didn't say they couldn't. I'm just saying that TNA doesn't need Kurt Angle to surive. TNA was here before Kurt Angle and they'll be there after Kurt Angle.
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Post by Joey Cush on Jul 20, 2009 23:12:08 GMT -5
And they could have gotten everything you posted before with Angle, probably even easier. And I didn't say they couldn't. I'm just saying that TNA doesn't need Kurt Angle to surive. TNA was here before Kurt Angle and they'll be there after Kurt Angle. Personally, I think that if they lose Angle- they are in for a drop. A big one too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 23:13:31 GMT -5
Kurt leaving TNA is not the problem, Him leaving and going back to WWE is the issue here. TNA can't afford that.
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Post by the franchise on Jul 20, 2009 23:26:45 GMT -5
This is an interesting situation. In the end Angle will be the one who leaves.
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Post by Focalin on Jul 21, 2009 1:37:04 GMT -5
Well, now we'll see Angle back in WWE.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Jul 21, 2009 5:41:33 GMT -5
Right, I just want to ask, who do you think it is, you know, who called in?
To me, it kinda sounds like JB
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