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Post by BigShab421 on Aug 10, 2009 12:45:18 GMT -5
No you shut the hell up. Where in my post did I say he NEVER passed a torch, I said pass a torch if he is really coming back and lmfao @ rocky didnt need the torch passed. rock is a ing god anyways nope Rock is a bitch. He took the "torch" Hogan gave him and dumped a bucket of water on it.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Aug 10, 2009 12:45:25 GMT -5
pass a torch while youre at it Now shaddup. Oh my god, he did it 3 times, he must not lose again.
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Post by Jimmy on Aug 10, 2009 12:46:13 GMT -5
Rock MADE Brock Lesnar with their SummerSlam match. Rock was the biggest star in wrestling and he put Brock over clean as a sheet in the middle of the ring.
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Post by Mark on Aug 10, 2009 12:48:35 GMT -5
No you shut the hell up. Where in my post did I say he NEVER passed a torch, I said pass a torch if he is really coming back and lmfao @ rocky didnt need the torch passed. rock is a ing god anyways nope Rock is a bitch. He took the "torch" Hogan gave him and dumped a bucket of water on it. No you are, you have mistake rocky for brock
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Post by HugoOne on Aug 10, 2009 12:49:09 GMT -5
Speaking of the Rock, maybe he should come back and pass a torch... as I don't recall him ever doing that. The Rock passed the torch to Lesnar a hell of a lot more than Hogan did. Hogan wasn't even relevant at the time. The Rock gave Lesnar his first good match, sold like him for crazy, had Lesnar POP out of the Rock Bottom or the People's Elbow, I forget which one, and basically destroy the WORLD CHAMPION who was relevant. The Rock also put a hell of a lot more people over than Hogan did. He put the HURRICANE over, for goodness sakes. Anyway, I'm not a Hogan fan, I started watching in late-1993 so I don't have the personal bias of growing up and watching him, but I do have the bias of hating that he refused to put Bret over at Wrestlemania IX when his time was clearly up and he was on the way out anyway. blah blah blah, been over it. As far as surgery, if he wants to alleviate the pain in his back, fantastic. Just keep him the hell out of a WWE ring.
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Post by terminator on Aug 10, 2009 12:49:10 GMT -5
Good. Let him come back. And get buried in a two-on-one handicap match against Shawn Michaels and Randy Orton. Yeah, right. They'd both be squashed by the almighty leg drop, brah. lol, i like many others find it hilarious that Undertaker who is bigger and weighs more than hogan, deliver the boot and the legdrop (wile gaining more height) but still only gets a 2 count. Says a lot about a leg drop for a finisher!
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Post by Mark on Aug 10, 2009 12:51:37 GMT -5
I dont remember austin coming back and putting anyone over...
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Post by sevb30 on Aug 10, 2009 12:52:41 GMT -5
Remember Hogan also lost to Kurt Angle.
Hulk Hogan was my hero since age 13, I say go for one more farewell run!
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Aug 10, 2009 12:55:18 GMT -5
God, I wish he would just permanently retire already.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Aug 10, 2009 12:56:18 GMT -5
No you shut the hell up. Where in my post did I say he NEVER passed a torch, I said pass a torch if he is really coming back and lmfao @ rocky didnt need the torch passed. rock is a ing god anyways Hogan had warrior brought into wcw to get his rematch and win, no torch there, the rock.. A the rock didnt need it, B didnt hogan win the title a month later..no torch there... the only one that is of any argument is Lesnar What the hell do you mean "no torch there"? Hogan put Warrior over in the biggest and best match of his life on what Vince likes to call "the biggest stage in wrestling". And he lost cleanly to him, 1-2-3. And he went on a hiatus afterwards to let Warrior do his thing. Hulk Hogan's not responsible for Warrior fumbling the ball. But he certainly did pass the torch to him. The Rock recieved the torch from Hogan, and he used that to elevate himself above Austin, since I'd say they were at around equal popularity in '02. The match was billed as 'Icon vs Icon', and from one icon to another, the torch was passed. Whether or not Hogan won the title later is irrelevant. The Rock also put a hell of a lot more people over than Hogan did. He put the HURRICANE over, for goodness sakes. No doubt the Rock's a real soldier when it comes to doing the job, but, Hogan put Brock over in a decisive fashion: he was literally bloodied, beaten and destroyed. Yeah, right. They'd both be squashed by the almighty leg drop, brah. lol, i like many others find it hilarious that Undertaker who is bigger and weighs more than hogan, deliver the boot and the legdrop (wile gaining more height) but still only gets a 2 count. Says a lot about a leg drop for a finisher! Those were the days, when you got over by posing and dropping your leg across an opponent's neck. *sigh* I dont remember austin coming back and putting anyone over... He wouldn't put Brock over.
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Post by downsyndrome on Aug 10, 2009 13:08:25 GMT -5
Hogan had warrior brought into wcw to get his rematch and win, no torch there, the rock.. A the rock didnt need it, B didnt hogan win the title a month later..no torch there... the only one that is of any argument is Lesnar What the hell do you mean "no torch there"? Hogan put Warrior over in the biggest and best match of his life on what Vince likes to call "the biggest stage in wrestling". And he lost cleanly to him, 1-2-3. And he went on a hiatus afterwards to let Warrior do his thing. Hulk Hogan's not responsible for Warrior fumbling the ball. But he certainly did pass the torch to him. The Rock recieved the torch from Hogan, and he used that to elevate himself above Austin, since I'd say they were at around equal popularity in '02. The match was billed as 'Icon vs Icon', and from one icon to another, the torch was passed. Whether or not Hogan won the title later is irrelevant. No doubt the Rock's a real soldier when it comes to doing the job, but, Hogan put Brock over in a decisive fashion: he was literally bloodied, beaten and destroyed. Those were the days, when you got over by posing and dropping your leg across an opponent's neck. *sigh* I dont remember austin coming back and putting anyone over... He wouldn't put Brock over. Hmm, Hogan should have really passed the torch and let HHH keep the title after at backlash 02. The rock didnt need Hogans torch Hogan didnt pass it... Hogans ego is what lead to warrior being brought in years later to WCW to get the win over warrior... Thats not passing the torch bro.... HE DID put over angle though, by tapping out..which is...cool... Oh, BTW...Austin put over Rock at WM19..in this last match...so yea...
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Post by Boy Wonder on Aug 10, 2009 13:09:57 GMT -5
I'd mark out like a little girl Then Nick Hogan comes out, runs over Hulk and HHH with his car, costing them the match
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2009 13:13:00 GMT -5
I see Hogan as Raw's guest host in a few weeks and from then into some sort of a feud.
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Post by instant classic on Aug 10, 2009 13:14:01 GMT -5
Good news, I like Hogan.
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Post by HugoOne on Aug 10, 2009 13:14:09 GMT -5
He wouldn't put Brock over. Actually he's said he would have put Brock over, but he disagreed with the fact that it was on Raw with literally no hype, so he walked. I agree; something of that magnitude deserves to be hyped up, and on PPV as well. I disagree with his methods, and he does now as well, but I believe him when he says he still would have put Brock over. Giving it away for free with no build up is a bad business decision.
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Post by Mark on Aug 10, 2009 13:14:44 GMT -5
i meant to say austin passing the torch, not putting anyone over
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Aug 10, 2009 13:16:00 GMT -5
Hmm, Hogan should have really passed the torch and let HHH keep the title after at backlash 02. The rock didnt need Hogans torch Hogan didnt pass it... Hogans ego is what lead to warrior being brought in years later to WCW to get the win over warrior... Thats not passing the torch bro.... HE DID put over angle though, by tapping out..which is...cool... Oh, BTW...Austin put over Rock at WM19..in this last match...so yea... Wow, big deal. Austin put the Rock over after both of them were nearing the end of their wrestling careers, and after he was 2-0 against the Rock at 'Mania to begin with. The Rock didn't need Hogan's torch? That was a dream match people were talking about for a while before it happened, Hulk Hogan vs. the Rock, two of WWE's most charismatic stars of all time. Anyone NEEDS a win over Hulk Hogan, that makes you legitimate, it cements your place in wrestling history since it gives you something that doesn't happen often. And he sure did put over Kurt Angle, and Billy Kidman back in WCW. So what? In 1990, Hulk Hogan attempted to pass the torch to the Warrior. He failed. In 1998, the Warrior comes to WCW after getting creative control on his gimmick (that "one Warrior nation" flop was his idea, I'm sure) and agreed to do the job to Hogan following nWo sheenanigans. I don't see how that's Hogan's fault, or how him beating someone eight years down the line means he didn't try passing the torch to him earlier? That's like Sting and Flair wrestling in 1990 and Flair jobbing and passing the torch, and then he beats Sting eight years down the line. Did that match changed what happened in 1990? No, he still did the job and handed the 'torch' over. Same applies for Hogan/Warrior.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Aug 10, 2009 13:18:07 GMT -5
He wouldn't put Brock over. Actually he's said he would have put Brock over, but he disagreed with the fact that it was on Raw with literally no hype, so he walked. I agree; something of that magnitude deserves to be hyped up, and on PPV as well. I disagree with his methods, and he does now as well, but I believe him when he says he still would have put Brock over. Giving it away for free with no build up is a bad business decision. What say should Austin have on the matter? His role is that of an employee, he should do whats asked of him. Remember, Hulk Hogan did job on free TV to Bill Goldberg. And plus.. this was the period of time where Austin was out of control, in 2002. I'm pretty sure he had himself go over Scott Hall at Mania 18 too, which made no sense since Austin pretty much buried the nWo from the get-go and had no problems exploiting Hall's alcoholism.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Aug 10, 2009 13:19:12 GMT -5
Good, I'd like to see him get a huge send-off much like Flair's.
Have, at WM26 Hogan/Miz or hell, have Hogan/Cena. Imagine that, imagine the media attention, the hype, and tbh it could make for a good match
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Post by downsyndrome on Aug 10, 2009 13:20:53 GMT -5
Hmm, Hogan should have really passed the torch and let HHH keep the title after at backlash 02. The rock didnt need Hogans torch Hogan didnt pass it... Hogans ego is what lead to warrior being brought in years later to WCW to get the win over warrior... Thats not passing the torch bro.... HE DID put over angle though, by tapping out..which is...cool... Oh, BTW...Austin put over Rock at WM19..in this last match...so yea... Wow, big deal. Austin put the Rock over after both of them were nearing the end of their wrestling careers, and after he was 2-0 against the Rock at 'Mania to begin with. The Rock didn't need Hogan's torch? That was a dream match people were talking about for a while before it happened, Hulk Hogan vs. the Rock, two of WWE's most charismatic stars of all time. Anyone NEEDS a win over Hulk Hogan, that makes you legitimate, it cements your place in wrestling history since it gives you something that doesn't happen often. And he sure did put over Kurt Angle, and Billy Kidman back in WCW. So what? In 1990, Hulk Hogan attempted to pass the torch to the Warrior. He failed. In 1998, the Warrior comes to WCW after getting creative control on his gimmick (that one Warrior nation flop was his idea, I'm sure) and agreed to do the job to Hogan following nWo sheenanigans. I don't see how that's Hogan's fault, or how him beating someone eight years down the line means he didn't try passing the torch to him later? That's like Sting and Flair wrestling in 1990 and Flair jobbing and passing the torch, and then he beats Sting eight years down the line. Did that match changed what happened in 1990? No, he still did the job and handed the 'torch' over. Same applies for Hogan/Warrior. I like this conversation, it is cilivlized thank you for keeping it that way... plus one or minus one? LMK, anyways. I have to respectfully disagree with you, The Rock did not need a win against Hogan at that stage of his career... To Hogans credit he did out The Rock over twice, I think the only person to get Hogans torch was undertaker Has for modern WWE Hogan, Brock needed the win, The Rock at WM 18 right? Did not I believe
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