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Post by carly1988 on Aug 11, 2009 13:06:56 GMT -5
Who did the Rock ever put over??? The only argument I can think of is Brock Lesnar and really....Lesnar was to the point where he was going to be over no matter what
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Aug 11, 2009 14:23:36 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again... Hogan is the biggest name in the history of pro-wrestling - and as far as I'm concerned, he can do what the he wants.. IMO, there should always be a place for him in the WWE.. Hulkamania will only die, when Hogan does.. I would love for him to come back, i would love to see him get punted, get a codebreaker, get a Masterlock, get a spear from the big show, i would love it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D You're 14.. What the do you know about Hogan - seriously?.. This is what annoys me the most... posts like this from ignorant/clueless kids, who weren't even born when Hogan was in his prime..
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Post by Mr. Orange on Aug 11, 2009 14:43:29 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again... Hogan is the biggest name in the history of pro-wrestling - and as far as I'm concerned, he can do what the he wants.. IMO, there should always be a place for him in the WWE.. Hulkamania will only die, when Hogan does.. I would love for him to come back, i would love to see him get punted, get a codebreaker, get a Masterlock, get a spear from the big show, i would love it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D You're 14.. What the do you know about Hogan - seriously?.. This is what annoys me the most... posts like this from ignorant/clueless kids, who weren't even born when Hogan was in his prime.. How old are you? Seriously, its not like anyone could go back and watch tapes of Hogan in his prime. I was born in 1991, and I've gone back and watched everyone from Bruno Sammartino to Superstar Billy Graham, Backlund, all the way up through the Hulkamania Era, the "steroid trial" days of the early 90's, to the Attitude Era, and then today.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Aug 11, 2009 14:44:46 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again... Hogan is the biggest name in the history of pro-wrestling - and as far as I'm concerned, he can do what the he wants.. IMO, there should always be a place for him in the WWE.. Hulkamania will only die, when Hogan does.. No, it shouldn't. There are a lot more deserving guys than Hogan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2009 15:49:31 GMT -5
Who did the Rock ever put over??? The only argument I can think of is Brock Lesnar and really....Lesnar was to the point where he was going to be over no matter what Rock is one of the MOST SELFLESS big names ever. The guy was red hot over in 1999 and was getting more over than Austin but still worked programs with Billy Gunn,British Bulldog, Al Snow,etc when HHH got forced down throats and Austin was refusing to work with Jarret and put over HHH at Summerslam some sources say. Rock put over Jericho at No Mercy for the WCW Title and then again at Vengeance in 2001. Lesnar got MADE by Hogan and Rock.He was getting "Goldberg" chants and wasn't that over until he got their rub. You can try to discredit Rock but it won't work.He put Lesnar over crystal clean unlike Austin.It got him over. Kurt Angle got his 1st WWF Title from Rock at No Mercy 2000. Christian's whole "PEEPS" gimmick originated from Rock giving him a rub in 2003 and Christian started calling himself "The new People's Champion". Rock jobbed to HURRICANE clean in 2003 weeks before his match vs Austin at Wrestlemania 19. Booker T wasn't exactly a new jack in 2003 but he tossed Rock out the battle royal in 2003 for the win. Rock didn't mind losing and never refused to put anyone over like a Hogan,Austin,HHH,Bret,HBK or Flair. They ALL have.Rock was a professional to the highest level. The Rock never even won a Wrestlemania main event and if he played the political game it would be different. Even STEPHANIE MCMAHON pinned The Rock.
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Post by L 0 T T 0 on Aug 11, 2009 15:51:21 GMT -5
Happy Birthday Hulkster!
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Post by downsyndrome on Aug 11, 2009 15:54:14 GMT -5
how old is he 34958493668568 years old? It is invetable though..he will be back... he needs money... Vince wont turn him down because he will make money..so..were ed
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Aug 11, 2009 16:02:22 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again... Hogan is the biggest name in the history of pro-wrestling - and as far as I'm concerned, he can do what the he wants.. IMO, there should always be a place for him in the WWE.. Hulkamania will only die, when Hogan does.. No, it shouldn't. There are a lot more deserving guys than Hogan. In your opinion, maybe..
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Post by Brock F'n Lesnar on Aug 11, 2009 16:08:57 GMT -5
pass a torch while youre at it Now shaddup. great, !
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Post by the franchise on Aug 11, 2009 16:10:33 GMT -5
Cena/Hogan someday. Book it Vince.
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Post by mnm213 on Aug 11, 2009 16:16:16 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again... Hogan is the biggest name in the history of pro-wrestling - and as far as I'm concerned, he can do what the he wants.. IMO, there should always be a place for him in the WWE.. Hulkamania will only die, when Hogan does.. I would love for him to come back, i would love to see him get punted, get a codebreaker, get a Masterlock, get a spear from the big show, i would love it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D You're 14.. What the do you know about Hogan - seriously?.. This is what annoys me the most... posts like this from ignorant/clueless kids, who weren't even born when Hogan was in his prime.. What has age got to do with this, you biased smark?... Theres nothing I hate more than when 30 year old adults rant about how teenagers know nothing about wrestling, tapes exist, you know, genius!
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 11, 2009 16:18:52 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again... Hogan is the biggest name in the history of pro-wrestling - and as far as I'm concerned, he can do what the he wants.. IMO, there should always be a place for him in the WWE.. Hulkamania will only die, when Hogan does.. You're 14.. What the do you know about Hogan - seriously?.. This is what annoys me the most... posts like this from ignorant/clueless kids, who weren't even born when Hogan was in his prime.. What has age got to do with this, you biased smark?... Theres nothing I hate more than when 30 year old adults rant about how teenagers know nothing about wrestling, tapes exist, you know, genius! Holy !. I actually agree with you
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Post by carly1988 on Aug 11, 2009 16:19:43 GMT -5
Who did the Rock ever put over??? The only argument I can think of is Brock Lesnar and really....Lesnar was to the point where he was going to be over no matter what Rock is one of the MOST SELFLESS big names ever. The guy was red hot over in 1999 and was getting more over than Austin but still worked programs with Billy Gunn,British Bulldog, Al Snow,etc when HHH got forced down throats and Austin was refusing to work with Jarret and put over HHH at Summerslam some sources say. Rock put over Jericho at No Mercy for the WCW Title and then again at Vengeance in 2001. Lesnar got MADE by Hogan and Rock.He was getting "Goldberg" chants and wasn't that over until he got their rub. You can try to discredit Rock but it won't work.He put Lesnar over crystal clean unlike Austin.It got him over. Kurt Angle got his 1st WWF Title from Rock at No Mercy 2000. Christian's whole "PEEPS" gimmick originated from Rock giving him a rub in 2003 and Christian started calling himself "The new People's Champion". Rock jobbed to HURRICANE clean in 2003 weeks before his match vs Austin at Wrestlemania 19. Booker T wasn't exactly a new jack in 2003 but he tossed Rock out the battle royal in 2003 for the win. Rock didn't mind losing and never refused to put anyone over like a Hogan,Austin,HHH,Bret,HBK or Flair. They ALL have.Rock was a professional to the highest level. The Rock never even won a Wrestlemania main event and if he played the political game it would be different. Even STEPHANIE MCMAHON pinned The Rock. Ok, just because someone pinned the rock doesnt mean he put them over so dont go counting every loss the rock has as putting someone over. Ill give you Lesnar and Jericho..... How the hell are you gonna include Billy Gunn, Booker T and Hurricane in that argument? Gunn never made it past mid card leve. For Christ sakes he never even got to upper mid card level. Hurricane, if there wasnt a Cruiserweight division, would have been the next Eugue...Just some silly character in a stupid costume. Christian is a joke. Saying you're the champ of ECW is like saying you're the Smokey Mountain Heavyweight Champion....I mean Mark Henry held the title. HHH was already over and didnt need the Rock to get him over. Neither did Austin........and Booker T?? The Rock hurt Booker Ts career by a few simple words more then he helped him. Sure Booker eliminated him from the battle royal but who beat Booker for his WCW title, that non WCW wrestler The Rock and then Triple H proceeds to bury him more later on by beating him at Wrestlemania. So in 10 years The Rock put over Brock Lesnar (even though he was pretty much over anyway but ill give it to you) and Chris Jericho (who was also pretty much over but Ill give it to you as well) Hogan gave the rub to Warrior (it flopped) if Rock put Lesnar over the Hogan gave him the rub (it pretty much flopped) and Hogan "passed the torch" of sorts to the rock... Flair gave the rub to Sting and Magnum TA. Sadly Magnum had his career cut short but Sting has blossomed into a great star. BTW who did Bret Hart win his first World title from??? Thats right Ric Flair HHH never put anyone over either??? Funny the first names that come to mind are Randy Orton and Dave Batista How bout HBK? Everyone knows how I feel about him.....but for Christ sakes...he pretty much carried Kevin Nash to what he was. Sure he didnt do the job all the time and was a prick backstage but ya know, he sure carried HHH to the top as well. I mean do I need to keep going? Do you want me to go into Al Snow? or British Bulldog?? Its kinda obvious Rock never really put anyone over or passed any type of torch. He was a great worker that worked with other great workers and had a good career.
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 11, 2009 16:21:40 GMT -5
Rock is one of the MOST SELFLESS big names ever. The guy was red hot over in 1999 and was getting more over than Austin but still worked programs with Billy Gunn,British Bulldog, Al Snow,etc when HHH got forced down throats and Austin was refusing to work with Jarret and put over HHH at Summerslam some sources say. Rock put over Jericho at No Mercy for the WCW Title and then again at Vengeance in 2001. Lesnar got MADE by Hogan and Rock.He was getting "Goldberg" chants and wasn't that over until he got their rub. You can try to discredit Rock but it won't work.He put Lesnar over crystal clean unlike Austin.It got him over. Kurt Angle got his 1st WWF Title from Rock at No Mercy 2000. Christian's whole "PEEPS" gimmick originated from Rock giving him a rub in 2003 and Christian started calling himself "The new People's Champion". Rock jobbed to HURRICANE clean in 2003 weeks before his match vs Austin at Wrestlemania 19. Booker T wasn't exactly a new jack in 2003 but he tossed Rock out the battle royal in 2003 for the win. Rock didn't mind losing and never refused to put anyone over like a Hogan,Austin,HHH,Bret,HBK or Flair. They ALL have.Rock was a professional to the highest level. The Rock never even won a Wrestlemania main event and if he played the political game it would be different. Even STEPHANIE MCMAHON pinned The Rock. Ok, just because someone pinned the rock doesnt mean he put them over so dont go counting every loss the rock has as putting someone over. Ill give you Lesnar and Jericho..... How the hell are you gonna include Billy Gunn, Booker T and Hurricane in that argument? Gunn never made it past mid card leve. For Christ sakes he never even got to upper mid card level. Hurricane, if there wasnt a Cruiserweight division, would have been the next Eugue...Just some silly character in a stupid costume. Christian is a joke. Saying you're the champ of ECW is like saying you're the Smokey Mountain Heavyweight Champion....I mean Mark Henry held the title. HHH was already over and didnt need the Rock to get him over. Neither did Austin........and Booker T?? The Rock hurt Booker Ts career by a few simple words more then he helped him. Sure Booker eliminated him from the battle royal but who beat Booker for his WCW title, that non WCW wrestler The Rock and then Triple H proceeds to bury him more later on by beating him at Wrestlemania. So in 10 years The Rock put over Brock Lesnar (even though he was pretty much over anyway but ill give it to you) and Chris Jericho (who was also pretty much over but Ill give it to you as well) Hogan gave the rub to Warrior (it flopped) if Rock put Lesnar over the Hogan gave him the rub (it pretty much flopped) and Hogan "passed the torch" of sorts to the rock... Flair gave the rub to Sting and Magnum TA. Sadly Magnum had his career cut short but Sting has blossomed into a great star. BTW who did Bret Hart win his first World title from??? Thats right Ric Flair HHH never put anyone over either??? Funny the first names that come to mind are Randy Orton and Dave BatistaHow bout HBK? Everyone knows how I feel about him.....but for Christ sakes...he pretty much carried Kevin Nash to what he was. Sure he didnt do the job all the time and was a prick backstage but ya know, he sure carried HHH to the top as well. I mean do I need to keep going? Do you want me to go into Al Snow? or British Bulldog?? Its kinda obvious Rock never really put anyone over or passed any type of torch. He was a great worker that worked with other great workers and had a good career. It's funny because Rock did that as well, but in the same night + Flair.
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Post by carly1988 on Aug 11, 2009 16:25:09 GMT -5
Please tell me you're not talking a bout that crappy ass 2 on 3 tag match from wrestlemania....if thats considered "putting someone over" then Ive got a good friend who is the next greatest tag team wrestler cause he's beat Rick Steiner and Ricky Morton in a flea market
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Post by downsyndrome on Aug 11, 2009 16:27:03 GMT -5
first off, lets leave Christian out of this... second of all... HHH buried Orton TBH...
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Post by BladeDJK on Aug 11, 2009 16:29:41 GMT -5
I like Hogan but don't want to see him wrestle again, time for the new guys
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Post by carly1988 on Aug 11, 2009 16:31:51 GMT -5
first off, lets leave Christian out of this... second of all... HHH buried Orton TBH... How did he bury him? There is a difference between a feud and being buried. Triple H made Orton and Batista. If they would have never joined up in Evolution Orton would probably still be wearing biker shorts and curtain jerkin on Smackdown. Ill even add this. If some people wanna consider the ECW title an actual title worth owning...Then Ill add Mark Henry to the list of guys the Rock put over.....Just because Henry was pretty much a Future Endeavors waiting to happen until he joined up with the rock in the nation
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Aug 11, 2009 16:48:05 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again... Hogan is the biggest name in the history of pro-wrestling - and as far as I'm concerned, he can do what the he wants.. IMO, there should always be a place for him in the WWE.. Hulkamania will only die, when Hogan does.. You're 14.. What the do you know about Hogan - seriously?.. This is what annoys me the most... posts like this from ignorant/clueless kids, who weren't even born when Hogan was in his prime.. What has age got to do with this, you biased smark?... Theres nothing I hate more than when 30 year old adults rant about how teenagers know nothing about wrestling, tapes exist, you know, genius! Sorry, but the "wrestling tapes exist" comment, cuts no ice with me.. The fact that you even need wrestling tapes, in the first place, proves my point.. You can watch all the wrestling tapes you want - but in my book, watching wrestling tapes doesn't compensate for first-hand knowledge.. For example, I don't have much knowledge of wrestling in the 70's and early 80's, and so I wouldn't pass comment on it, or pretend to know what I'm talking about - and me watching a few tapes wouldn't make me an expert... it just means I've watched something that happened 20 or 30 years ago..
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Post by carly1988 on Aug 11, 2009 16:51:22 GMT -5
I have to semi agree about the tape comments. Theres somethings you just cant duplicate by watching a tape. The thrill of Hogan vs Warrior at Mania is much more greater in 1990 when you're 7yo in person then if your 15 and watching something that happened 10-15 years ago
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