CrazyCale
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Post by CrazyCale on Jan 21, 2010 23:06:41 GMT -5
First off, I missed the Q and A, cuz it said 7pm and I might of saw the "p" in pm, and thought pst sooooo.....
Here is a big concern about the figures:
You guys over at mattel do a great job on the figures and put a lot into their look and designs, but you are missing a big thing. You guys need to get more accurate head scans and details involving the heads. The heads are ruining it... compare Deluxe Aggression 21 Edge head to Mattel elite 1 edge head. The deluxe blows the mattel out of the water, even though the body and pants are 5X better than Jakks. If you want to be the best you can be, you need to improve this fault.
(By the way, if anyone knows a email i could send this to JP, please tell me, thanks)
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Post by King Silva on Jan 21, 2010 23:18:47 GMT -5
I kinda agree with you. Some of the head scans are not very good but they will make different ones in the future and hopefully get better at them in general.
It isn't like Jakks always had flawless head scans..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2010 23:39:02 GMT -5
Obviously, the head sculpts will improve as they continue to produce them. There are some right now that aren't too great, but but I think they're off to a very good start. Some of the head sculpts we already have are far and away better than anything Jakks produced(Santino, Punk, MVP, for instance).
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Post by purplekangaroo on Jan 21, 2010 23:41:58 GMT -5
Obviously, the head sculpts will improve as they continue to produce them. There are some right now that aren't too great, but but I think they're off to a very good start. Some of the head sculpts we already have are far and away better than anything Jakks produced(Santino, Punk, MVP, for instance). 70% of Jakks scans are still better than Mattel. |
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Post by Chip on Jan 21, 2010 23:58:47 GMT -5
Obviously, the head sculpts will improve as they continue to produce them. There are some right now that aren't too great, but but I think they're off to a very good start. Some of the head sculpts we already have are far and away better than anything Jakks produced(Santino, Punk, MVP, for instance). no way bro all 3 of Punk's Jakks scans are incredibly awesome & accurate. The Mattel Elite is basically a re-has of the original Jakks scan which is odd how they got that.The Basic Series 2, while alright, is pretty mediocre compared to any Jakks Punk The Elite MVP scan is pretty good, but its the only one we have to compare right now, since Jakks only gave him 1 head as well. To be honest, I really don't know if they will improve with Mattel. Jakks had a few misses but tons of hits with the headscans...however they really never changed their style or design. |
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Post by cableV on Jan 21, 2010 23:59:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2010 0:05:26 GMT -5
Whatever, obviously not everyone is going to agree. I've seen many Jakks head sculpts that were awful, and so far there are only a couple of Mattel heads that looks bad. They haven't done as many, so there isn't yet the potential for them to have as many bad ones as Jakks did over their run, but proportionally, Mattel still has more heads that are superior, IN MY OPINION. I have a big collection of Jakks stuff, and comparing them side-by-side with the Mattel figures, on a figure-by-figure basis, I prefer the Mattels, including the heads, in almost every instance.
Most of the Punks heads that Jakks did, to continue using that example, were totally okay, nothing wrong with 'em. The elite Punk head is just better. Basic 2 Punk head, not so much. It's cool, they'll only continue to improve from here. With their head sculpts already ranging from good-excellent, with only a couple of exceptions, I have no worries about the kind of work we'll be getting from them in the future. That's the way I feel about it.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 22, 2010 0:17:05 GMT -5
The scans will get better with experience & time.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 22, 2010 0:28:06 GMT -5
Exactly. The scans and sculpts are fantastic, they're just painted in a rather slapdash manner. So if anyone from Mattel does read this thread - please ignore the "teh Jakks scanz r betta" nonsense. People are just talking wet. But do put more time into the painting on the heads. Cheers. |
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Post by jeffman316 on Jan 22, 2010 0:56:20 GMT -5
I was really impressed with all of the scans from the first series of releases. I loved the Randy Ortons and Beth Phoenix.
The second series of Basic is not as good though. Kane, Punk and henry are good. Swagger and Kozlov are very poor in my opinion. The Morrison, Miz and Finlay from the 2-packs are not good either.
I hope to get better ones of these guys in the future.
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Jan 22, 2010 1:24:59 GMT -5
Obviously, the head sculpts will improve as they continue to produce them. There are some right now that aren't too great, but but I think they're off to a very good start. Some of the head sculpts we already have are far and away better than anything Jakks produced(Santino, Punk, MVP, for instance). 70% of Jakks scans are still better than Mattel. and 70% of Jakks bodies are crap, i rather have detailed and accurate attire aswell as Scale over a headscan. |
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Post by breakthru on Jan 22, 2010 3:20:24 GMT -5
I much prefer Mattels scans so far. In my opinion their scans of Henry, Orton, Beth, Santino, Kane, Dibiase, MVP and Batista blow their Jakks equvilants out of the water.
Sure they have produced some that aren't the best but I think they've made a hell of a good start.
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Post by xoptimusxchadx on Jan 22, 2010 9:10:14 GMT -5
Obviously, the head sculpts will improve as they continue to produce them. There are some right now that aren't too great, but but I think they're off to a very good start. Some of the head sculpts we already have are far and away better than anything Jakks produced(Santino, Punk, MVP, for instance). 70% of Jakks scans are still better than Mattel. Yeah I don't agree with you at all. Jakks had a special way of taking a head scan and screwing with it so much that it ended up not even looking like them. Mattel just started out and the last time I checked when Hasbro and Jakks first started out there were no such things as real scan. So be happy with what you got. |
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Post by Dan88 on Jan 22, 2010 9:21:38 GMT -5
So far the only jakks headscan's i like better than mattel's are edge, morrison and kozlov's. Think they have done a good job but do agree with the painting off them might effect em.
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ClassicCollector
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Post by ClassicCollector on Jan 22, 2010 10:37:11 GMT -5
First off, I missed the Q and A, cuz it said 7pm and I might of saw the "p" in pm, and thought pst sooooo..... Here is a big concern about the figures: You guys over at mattel do a great job on the figures and put a lot into their look and designs, but you are missing a big thing. You guys need to get more accurate head scans and details involving the heads. The heads are ruining it... compare Deluxe Aggression 21 Edge head to Mattel elite 1 edge head. The deluxe blows the mattel out of the water, even though the body and pants are 5X better than Jakks. If you want to be the best you can be, you need to improve this fault. (By the way, if anyone knows a email i could send this to JP, please tell me, thanks) I agree! I have seen Mattel already making the most horrible headscans ever....why not put a little less effort on the details on clothing and put a little more affort in making heads that actually look like the wrestler? |
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Post by thereisnoart on Jan 22, 2010 10:52:04 GMT -5
I have seen Mattel already making the most horrible headscans ever*....why not put a little less effort on the details on clothing and put a little more affort in making heads that actually look like the wrestler? Yeah, great idea - hey, Mattel, stop putting so much detail in the clothing! Some of the headscans are better than others, but as it's been stated here and elsewhere, I'd rather see better paint jobs on the scans as they are. I happen to think most of the headscans are at least as good as Jakks. I've yet to see one with a pushed in or asymmetrical face. If you look at Mattel's first efforts and are wracked with concern over the line, then I think you're trying to see the entire sky through a bamboo tube, as the old expression goes. Give them a year and THEN be concerned, at least. |
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Post by primetimejedi on Jan 22, 2010 10:57:23 GMT -5
you guys can stop kissing padawer's ass..... he doesn't come around here anymore......
Mattel is doing an awesome job on the line. BECAUSE they aren't JAKKS you complain. It took JAKKS how many years to get it right and still couldn't release accurate figures. There are far more serious things to worry about. People will continue to buy them......NOW if you said they paint them with the bad LSD laced paint then we have a concern.....
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Post by jfinnomore on Jan 22, 2010 11:11:21 GMT -5
Mattels Legacy, Orton, Beth, Santino Jericho, Bourne and Kofi all put jakks counterparts to shame. Granted some of Mattels are pretty haggard, Morrison or Kozlov for example, but I don't think Jakks was WAY better then them as some are saying.
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Post by DKR on Jan 22, 2010 11:19:16 GMT -5
I would take Mattels attention to detail, attention to scale, abundance of different product, superior quality, and overall presentation over anything that Jakks produced in the RA/DA era. Are some of the Mattel headsculpts a little suspect? Sure. But the overall product and line is far superior to Jakks. And whoever said that Jakks had "70% better head sculpts" can you please tell us what kind of  ed up math you used to come up with that? |
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Post by hitman1072 on Jan 22, 2010 12:23:21 GMT -5
This isn't even an issue. Mattel's product destroys what Jakks gave us. It'll become much more evident when Jakks starts releasing that TNA garbage. Now that stuff looks terrible. It matches everything else Jakks gave us. I just got the Kozlov figure yesterday, and I really like it. It is much better overall than the Jakks version. For all of you saying it isn't good...how many of you actually own it?
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