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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 13, 2010 16:33:37 GMT -5
Well, I think it's awesome Penn will get another shot. I will stand by what I said: BJ DID NOT look himself in that fight. He had to of been either injured or unmotivated in some way. I'll also stand by saying that Frankie won, but it was NOT a 50-45 winning score.
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 13, 2010 16:35:23 GMT -5
Top of the pile or not,his job is to fight his opponents. Prove your point by destroying the guy quickly and doing your poop talking on the mic afterwards demanding a tougher fight. Instead, Anderson f****d over everyone by just playing around and then acting like it wan't a big deal. What I found really funny about the fight was that Silva SEEMED to gas out from all his dancing and showboating, because he got caught a few times by Maia who isn't known for his striking. I think if Maia tried to catch him a few more times, things may have turned out different.
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Post by 1992 on Apr 13, 2010 17:27:49 GMT -5
Lol @ Silva gassing from dancing around. He should have done some magic tricks or something in the last three rounds. I mean , I did pay to see a show.
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Post by sean™ on Apr 13, 2010 17:57:05 GMT -5
He should have finished him in the last 5 seconds of the fight. Just to with people.
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Post by 1992 on Apr 13, 2010 18:06:35 GMT -5
He should have attacked Dan Miragliotta when he called him out on not doing anything.
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Post by gothereds on Apr 13, 2010 18:12:41 GMT -5
He should have attacked Dan Miragliotta when he called him out on not doing anything. Now THAT would've made up for the 20 minutes of sh*t we went through beforehand.
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Post by PrideFcF on Apr 13, 2010 18:32:47 GMT -5
Top of the pile or not,his job is to fight his opponents. Prove your point by destroying the guy quickly and doing your poop talking on the mic afterwards demanding a tougher fight. Instead, Anderson f****d over everyone by just playing around and then acting like it wan't a big deal. What I found really funny about the fight was that Silva SEEMED to gas out from all his dancing and showboating, because he got caught a few times by Maia who isn't known for his striking. I think if Maia tried to catch him a few more times, things may have turned out different. You know, I wouldn't be shocked if that was the case. Cause nothing else really makes much sense for how he went about things. I don't personally care that he was showboating. While I won't praise him for doing such things, it isn't the reason why I'm upset with his performance. To showboat like you don't fear your opponent before blasting them out of the cage is a sign of dominance. Showboating like you're the man, and then barely fighting, is more a sign of some stupid crap like "haha, youuuu caaaan't caaaatch meeee". It's so confusing. I'm not as angry as others may be, but it just seems like such a waste for him to fight this way going into his supposed retirement. Totally agree with you on the BJ/Edgar fight. From the opening minutes of the fight, I felt something was off with Penn. There was just a look in his face that gave off the feeling of him not being fully "there".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2010 20:03:26 GMT -5
What I found really funny about the fight was that Silva SEEMED to gas out from all his dancing and showboating, because he got caught a few times by Maia who isn't known for his striking. I think if Maia tried to catch him a few more times, things may have turned out different. You know, I wouldn't be shocked if that was the case. Cause nothing else really makes much sense for how he went about things. I don't personally care that he was showboating. While I won't praise him for doing such things, it isn't the reason why I'm upset with his performance. To showboat like you don't fear your opponent before blasting them out of the cage is a sign of dominance. Showboating like you're the man, and then barely fighting, is more a sign of some stupid crap like "haha, youuuu caaaan't caaaatch meeee". It's so confusing. I'm not as angry as others may be, but it just seems like such a waste for him to fight this way going into his supposed retirement. Totally agree with you on the BJ/Edgar fight. From the opening minutes of the fight, I felt something was off with Penn. There was just a look in his face that gave off the feeling of him not being fully "there". I think I agree with you. I wasn't pissed in the beginning. I'm a big Silva fan and though I found the showboating in the first two rounds to be uncomfortable, he was doing damage. After that, though, it was just bizarre. The gassing explanation makes some sense, except for the fact that Silva was dropping Maia with simple leg kicks in the beginning. He could have pursued the same strategy while tired without placing himself at much risk. He just sort of stopped trying to even do damage. As for the Penn fight, I thought he won, but it was so close that I wasn't shocked at the decision (except for the 50-45 score). He did look off from the beginning (any word on the knee brace he was wearing?), and he didn't fight a smart fight.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2010 21:23:29 GMT -5
The 50-45 score did not make any sense at all. So that judge is telling me that Penn lost every single round? Right.
I wish I knew what was going on in Silva's head. He could have finished the fight but he didn't. I can see why Dana is so upset though, Silva definitely rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
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Post by cmpunkfan4life on Apr 13, 2010 23:28:06 GMT -5
I don't know why alot of people were pissed at silva so what he showboated thats what he does in most of his fights i for one loved it and if his opponents don't like him showboating then all i can say is stop him from doing it which no one has yet
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Post by 1992 on Apr 13, 2010 23:31:28 GMT -5
You must not have paid for the show then buddy. I didn't give $50 bucks to see Anderson Silva shuffle around for 20+ minutes, I paid to see him ing FIGHT.
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Post by cmpunkfan4life on Apr 13, 2010 23:42:30 GMT -5
You must not have paid for the show then buddy. I didn't give $50 bucks to see Anderson Silva shuffle around for 20+ minutes, I paid to see him ing FIGHT. Well next time silva fights dont buy it buddy. Also Demian Maia didnt do much more than anderson did he just stood there and got his ass beat i mean look at Maias face after the fight it didnt look to pretty
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Post by 1992 on Apr 13, 2010 23:55:39 GMT -5
You must not have paid for the show then buddy. I didn't give $50 bucks to see Anderson Silva shuffle around for 20+ minutes, I paid to see him ing FIGHT. Well next time silva fights dont buy it buddy.Also Demian Maia didnt do much more than anderson did he just stood there and got his ass beat i mean look at Maias face after the fight it didnt look to pretty Great logic. Also I never said Demian Maia did any better, which is my point. Silva needs to FINISH FIGHTS. Sure the showboating crap is cute and demoralizing for his opponent, impressive, but it looses it's charm about about 5-10 minutes. If he was so superior as he displayed, there is no reason people who payed GOD knows how much for live seats and people who bought the event deserve to see him taunt for about two rounds, then side-step his opponent for the last 3. Inexcusable.
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Post by Pink And Black Attack on Apr 13, 2010 23:56:51 GMT -5
Im pissed that penn lost he didnt look like himself but hopefully he gets the belt back soon. As far as anderson silva goes i love it sure he could have put maia away but he just toyed with him instead but thats what happens when somebody is that much better then their opponent they can do whatever they want to do.
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 14, 2010 0:14:14 GMT -5
Anderson needs to face someone with great striking and a good ground game, and I honestly can't think of anybody really, besides Belfort. Rumor has it, Belfort is pissed off about Anderson's latest performance and has been bugging Dana about putting on the fight with Silva for his return fight.
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Post by PrideFcF on Apr 14, 2010 1:35:56 GMT -5
I don't know why alot of people were pissed at silva so what he showboated thats what he does in most of his fights i for one loved it and if his opponents don't like him showboating then all i can say is stop him from doing it which no one has yet Again, it is not the showboating that anyone should be angry about. It's the fact that he barely fought in his fight, despite taunting like he was going to drop atom bombs on Maia. And spare me the "well did ya see his face?!" stuff. So he busted Maia's nose, and it led to his eye getting swollen. Big whoop. He did that with a couple of strikes and then just sat back doing nothing. Really, how can that be remotely entertaining? I'm not even going to go as far as to say that Silva NEEDS to finish fights. At this point, I'd be happy just to see him actively compete in his MW fights, instead of going into them with seemingly little interest. Furthermore, that's some broken logic to sit back and tell people not to order his fights. As if we could have known Anderson would be in douche-mode Saturday night? Sounds like the words of someone who is either easily entertained by fighters acting dumb, or someone who watches free streams. I personally enjoyed the ppv enough, and split the bill with some pals, so I can't complain much about the value aspect. But in looking at the bigger picture of things, Anderson let a lot of people down with his actions.
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 14, 2010 2:04:22 GMT -5
Maia really did that to himself. If your nose is all ed up like his was, the LAST thing you should do is blow it, because that will make your eye swell up like it did.
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Post by 1992 on Apr 14, 2010 9:56:27 GMT -5
Well I paid straight out of my own pocket...no one wanted to split with me...so that, I wanna see a finish.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Apr 14, 2010 10:39:21 GMT -5
Anderson is just bored fighting. He has asked Dana for his release before. But Dana said to just finish out his contract.
It is a funny joke with Nog and Silva. Silva thinks he is so dominant he will win 3 rounds and mess around the other 2 and still win. I don't feel bad for Dana or Maia, but I do feel bad for the fans that paid money to see them fight. When Anderson fights this is what you are going to get for the next couple of fights. Anderson is just spent on fighting.
As for Penn. Penn could be the most dominant fighter of all time. If he took all his fights seriously. From what I have heard Penn was in the clubs a couple days before the fight. So basically he turned into the old partying Penn. That doesn't get focused.
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Post by gothereds on Apr 14, 2010 10:44:47 GMT -5
You must not have paid for the show then buddy. I didn't give $50 bucks to see Anderson Silva shuffle around for 20+ minutes, I paid to see him ing FIGHT. Well next time silva fights dont buy it buddy. Also Demian Maia didnt do much more than anderson did he just stood there and got his ass beat i mean look at Maias face after the fight it didnt look to pretty Maia's face was "not too pretty" because of a broken nose which he suffered pretty early on, before Anderson quite literally stopped fighting. The swollen eye is because he couldn't fight the urge to blow his nose any longer. He blew it, and the eye swelled up badly. Notice at the end of the 4th round, it's fully open but at the start of the 5th, it's swelled shut. He hardly got punched in the eye... Anderson legit stopped fighting and started circling mid-way through the third round. After that, Maia started being the aggressor. He landed a few clean shots in the 4th, and was just winging punches (even from his knees) in the 5th. Anderson got bored, plain and simple. Watch the fight, then comment, as it sounds like you've only seen parts of the fight and not the entire thing. Well, it's either that, or you're a massive Silva fan and all your comments are based on clear bias.
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