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Post by NAЯDO on Apr 14, 2010 11:18:13 GMT -5
Silva is just too good for Maia, and Edgar just performed in his finest to beat Penn.
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Post by PrideFcF on Apr 14, 2010 13:32:36 GMT -5
As for Penn. Penn could be the most dominant fighter of all time. If he took all his fights seriously. From what I have heard Penn was in the clubs a couple days before the fight. So basically he turned into the old partying Penn. That doesn't get focused. What's funny is that me and my pals had been partying the night before and all of us briefly commented on how Penn looked like he had huge bags under his eyes going into round 1. I tried to dismiss the idea that he was maybe partying, but a brief trip to the bathroom in between rounds and I realized my eyes didn't look too much different from his. That'd be a shame if this were the case. And I think Anderson only wants to really fight if there's something interesting on the line. Since beating Hendo, he's 0 for 3 when it comes to having an interesting fight at MW. In that same span of time, he's had high-light reel (nobody will ever forget his KO of Forrest) wins against guys at LHW, finishing them easily in the 1st round. My guess is that he either loves the ego boost of beating up bigger dudes, or chooses to only fight when he senses he could actually lose. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 14, 2010 15:46:49 GMT -5
Dana said on the Jim Rome show: "I will tell you right now, if he EVER does that in the ring again, I WILL cut him. I don't care if he is the best fighter in the world."
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Post by sean™ on Apr 14, 2010 15:55:04 GMT -5
So if he ever does this again, he'll get exactly what he wants?
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Post by Sandy on Apr 14, 2010 21:31:19 GMT -5
^^^ haha exactly. I love how people are getting mad at Silva for NOT finishing the fight. Jesus Christ how annoying do you think that is for Silva. He has had 11 fights in the UFC. ONLY TWO HAVE GONE TO DECISION. TWO!!!!  One has gone to the third round.. and the rest he finished before the end of the 2nd. people love Jon Fitch and that guy goes to decision in almost every single one of his fights. imagine everyone being this harsh on someone like A-Rod everytime he played a game and didn't hit a homerun...that is just insane logic. Nobody is even on par with Silva as far as his striking accuracy he completely smashed the previous consecutive win streak record and he is pretty damn close to squashing the record Matt Hughes and Tito were tied for most title defenses. He wants big fights. How f***ing long has he been saying he wants big fights. He cleared out his division...who is left Sonnen? I hate to play MMA Math but Henderson is better than Chael in every single aspect of mixed martial arts and Silva choked his ass out. he has told Dana he will go to LHW...WW....even HW. Silva wants to challenge himself. It takes two to tango I don't see anyone getting mad at Maia. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 14, 2010 21:40:19 GMT -5
Just for the record, Jon Fitch sucks too. Just sayin'...
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Post by Sandy on Apr 14, 2010 21:45:09 GMT -5
well im glad someone agrees about Fitch..
I just hope the "too" wasn't implying that Silva sucks..
a better example would be GSP. Everyone loves him...Me? I'm pretty bored by his fights as of late. His fights chasing the belt are about 100 times better than his title defense fights have been...but people still love him..he is still a huge PPV draw even though his strategy nowadays seems to be take them to the ground and GnP a decision win..
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Post by PrideFcF on Apr 14, 2010 22:10:45 GMT -5
I really don't understand the defense of "well he's just too good".
I seriously don't care that he's not finishing fights at MW right now. I only care that he just seems to not give a s*it about it and is kind of being a douche about it all. Criticize Fitch and GSP for their styles if you want, but it's just how those 2 fight. Like it or not, wrestling/GnP is a style of MMA (believe me, I'm not a fan of it either and don't care for Fitch much at all). Dancing around, showboating, and then back pedaling non-stop is not a style of MMA.
Fitch and GSP are boring in their fights out of unexciting offensive styles that they employ greatly. Meanwhile, Silva seems to just purposely let his MW matches be boring because...I don't really know. Cause he can? That's just awful. If he's bold enough to go against the UFC by purposely making his fights boring, then be bold enough to constantly call out every fighter from different weight classes that he's begging to get a piece of.
The only defense I can give to Anderson is that I think Dana should see the problem and just spare everyone by stripping Silva of the title. Not as a punishment to Silva (since I doubt he cares enough) but as a reward to everyone who does like him. Then just toss him against any big name who wants to take a shot. Cause I would wager money that if Dana were to promise Anderson a shot at just about any LHW or HW he wanted if he were to defend his MW one more time, Anderson would deliver a great performance at 185 again.
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Post by Sandy on Apr 14, 2010 22:50:06 GMT -5
I totally understand what you are saying. But unlike WW, LW, LHW, and even HW now...the MW division is still pretty damn weak.
when it comes to every other division I feel the fighters are all pretty damn well rounded. But MW seems to still be the division playing "catch up". Look at the fighters who are at the top of the division...Chael Sonnen and Demian Maia.....a world class wrestler...and a world class grappler. The only one at MW who is pretty damn well rounded is Nate Marquardt...but he lost to Chael Sonnen (which I am still in shock about).
so when you put Anderson against guys like:
Thales Leites who falls to the ground trying to bait Silva into following him..
Patrick Cote who tries to stand with Anderson...
..and Maia who pissed Silva off prior to the fight with his "they call him the spider..he has many legs, right? Maybe I'll take one of those legs home with me"..
that is when you get the showboating Silva who basically toys with his opponents.
I don't necessarily like it..but I don't get all pissed off either.
..and Anderson isn't the type to call a fighter out..but the closest I think he has ever been to doing that was when right before a fight he rubbed vaseline from his face on his arms and on his chest WHILE ENTERING THE OCTAGON....at that time it was right after "Greasegate" and GSP was sitting front row that night. GSP has been asked numerous times if he would be interested to fight Silva and he doesn't seemed interested at all.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Apr 14, 2010 23:21:01 GMT -5
Anderson Silva does NOT want to fight anymore. he is done. He has asked Dana for his release 3 times. And Dana says to finish out his contract. He doesn't want to fight. he is spent. And he doesn't like Dana's mouth.
I think the only fighter Anderson would fight would be Fedor. To avenge Nog's loss's. And that would be a favor to Nog.
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Post by Sandy on Apr 14, 2010 23:31:03 GMT -5
anyone know how many more fights Silva has left? I thought he wanted to retire when he was 35?
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Post by James Hetfield on Apr 14, 2010 23:32:51 GMT -5
He changed his mind about retiring. He said he'll fight as long as Nog does.
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Post by gothereds on Apr 15, 2010 3:07:30 GMT -5
UFC 117: Silva vs Sonnen
It's happening August 7, in Salt Lake City. Well, according to Dana on that Jim Rome show...
While UFC president Dana White made it very clear he was unhappy with his middleweight champion, Anderson Silva, following a lackluster appearance at this past weekend's UFC 112 event in Abu Dhabi, the exec isn't hesitating to put "The Spider" back in action.
White announced today during an appearance on ESPN's "Jim Rome is Burning" that the organization was targeting a fight between Silva and top contender Chael Sonnen.
MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) has since confirmed the UFC is targeting Aug. 7 in Salt Lake City, marking the UFC's first-ever trip to Utah.
Additional sources close to the promotion informed MMAjunkie.com that the UFC is eyeing EnergySolutions Arena, home of the NBA's Utah Jazz, as a potential host venue for the event.
Bill Colbert, Director of the Pete Suazo Utah Athletic Commission, told MMAjunkie.com that nothing is yet set in stone, but he acknowledged that he has been in discussion with the UFC.
"We've heard the date," Colbert said. "We've been speaking to the UFC for some time and encouraging them to come to our state. We're eagerly awaiting them to make a formal announcement. But I do understand that they're having discussions with that date in mind."
While the fight would likely serve as a headliner for a pay-per-view card, making the newly announced event UFC 117, White's words in Abu Dhabi leave some doubt as to whether Silva will be slotted into a main event role or if fans will be asked to pay for the card.
"Anderson Silva might be the first champion in history fighting on a prelim," White said following UFC 112. "How do you sell Anderson Silva after tonight? How do you do it? People don't want to see that [expletive]. I don't want to see it."
White didn't offer additional details regarding the event, though he did suggest a repeat performance by the fighter he has frequently touted as the world's greatest could lead to Silva's dismissal from the organization.
Silva has been expected to face slugger Vitor Belfort at UFC 112 until a shoulder injury forced "The Phenom" out of the event. MMAjunkie.com has learned that Belfort's injury will likely keep him shelved until approximately October, this ruling out his involvement in the new card.
Meanwhile, Sonnen earned his way into the title match by virtue of a current three-fight win streak – a run capped off by a unanimous decision win over Nate Marquardt.
Sonnen has openly expressed his distaste for Silva and has promised to make good on his words.
"[Silva] is getting beaten up in 2010 by Chael Sonnen," Sonnen told MMAjunkie.com this past weekend. "That's been the story from the jump.
"There's people out there that need (to be) beaten up – he's one of them. And I have a moral obligation to society to beat him up."
For the more on the newly announced UFC 117 event, stay tuned to the UFC Rumors section of MMAjunkie.com.
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Post by Sandy on Apr 15, 2010 13:00:54 GMT -5
Honestly Sonnen beat Marquardt and Okami...(two guys I never thought he would beat)...so I guess anything can happen.
..I'm just not interested with Silva fighting anyone at 185 unless it is Vitor.
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Post by PdW2kX on Apr 15, 2010 17:03:22 GMT -5
Honestly Sonnen beat Marquardt and Okami...(two guys I never thought he would beat)...so I guess anything can happen. ..I'm just not interested with Silva fighting anyone at 185 unless it is Vitor. I think you've got a point. But I see Sonnen rushing in and really making it a fight. I see him getting  ing demolished for doing that against Anderson Silva, but I do see Sonnen going in guns blazing and making Silva give us another incredible performance. |
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Post by PrideFcF on Apr 15, 2010 17:21:24 GMT -5
Imagine the outcry if Silva-vs-Sonnen ends up being an almost complete copy of Sonnen-vs-Filho 2.
Kidding aside, I do expect Sonnen to use this opportunity for everything it's worth, regardless of if it results in him getting demolished. Not too long ago he was fairly irrelevant, only getting attention for the bizzare (and awful) fight with Filho. Then he was suddenly in the UFC getting dominated quickly by Maia. Now, suddenly, he took down 2 top contenders and has made himself noticed (albeit by doing a lot of trash talking, and a bit of lucky circumstances) in the MW division.
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Post by gothereds on Apr 15, 2010 18:14:21 GMT -5
If Chael Sonnen is the Chael Sonnen who fought Nate Marquardt, with the extra intention and hatred for Anderson Silva, I can see it ending in no later than the 3rd round.
Oh... and with Sonnen's hand raised. I'm a closet (not anymore) massive Sonnen fan, and I'm SO pulling for him to win the title.
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Post by Sandy on Apr 15, 2010 18:31:51 GMT -5
Sonnen to me is like a Frank Mir...I just love to see both guys lose.
I think there is a difference in guys like Tito who trashtalk to strategically get in his opponents heads(or at least the OLD TITO did that)...and guys like Mir and Sonnen who both talk like their sh** don't stink. Sonnen is the last guy I would want to hold the title but as I said...he beat Marquardt and that impressed the hell out of me...
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Apr 15, 2010 19:20:11 GMT -5
Dana said on the Jim Rome show: "I will tell you right now, if he EVER does that in the ring again, I WILL cut him. I don't care if he is the best fighter in the world." Saw that. I can't believe that. From what I saw, he had the match won. Everyone's blowing this out of proportion. |
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Post by gothereds on Apr 16, 2010 7:00:45 GMT -5
Dana said on the Jim Rome show: "I will tell you right now, if he EVER does that in the ring again, I WILL cut him. I don't care if he is the best fighter in the world." Saw that. I can't believe that. From what I saw, he had the match won. Everyone's blowing this out of proportion. So 25 minutes of dancing and circling, being roasted for what it truly is, is "blown out of proportion"? What Anderson did in the third, fourth and fifth rounds were a disgrace. I think we're pretty much on the button about the situation. Yeah, he clearly won, but there was no need to take the piss like he did. If you're going to take the piss like that and can still clearly win, just finish the guy. Anderson has the ability to finish guys whenever the hell he wants. Why the didn't he do it? |
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