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Post by Random Hero Est. 2003 on Apr 15, 2010 12:44:21 GMT -5
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Post by downsyndrome on Apr 15, 2010 12:55:50 GMT -5
Seems like he is trying to push his opinions off as facts. He is an over opinionated bunghole. I am so happy he looked in his crystal ball and told me that TNA will never be the number one wrestling company...what a jerk off.
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Post by orpheous on Apr 15, 2010 12:58:35 GMT -5
More spam ... again... why cant we just watch wrestling? Why do we all have to choose sides so much? This guy is another example of someone that just doesnt get the big picture... If you dont like it... then dont watch.. simple as that...instead he thinks he is lance storm or something and puts video's out on youtube like anyone cares
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Post by Random Hero Est. 2003 on Apr 15, 2010 13:07:34 GMT -5
More spam ... again... why cant we just watch wrestling? Why do we all have to choose sides so much? This guy is another example of someone that just doesnt get the big picture... If you dont like it... then dont watch.. simple as that...instead he thinks he is lance storm or something and puts video's out on youtube like anyone cares Because it isn't as simple as "just watching wrestling." YOU'RE part of the internet wrestling scene, you should know this. When you have a product and plan to compete with the guy who produces a similar product and has been number one at it for 60 years everything is, and should be, analyzed. From the ing floor mats to the matches. That's the ONLY way we WE know if the product that is being put out compares to the one that is on top. And, in doing so, we've found all of TNA's faults, thus, making it an extremely lackluster product. I give TNA an A for effort, but everything that Storm, Heyman, Cornette, even this "over oppoinionated bunghole" has said, is 100% accurate. How could SO many people be wrong if we all have the same opinion? The show sucks and Hogan/Bischoff will kill the last remaining threat to WWE. And the irony is they're killing the last threat, by marketing it as a threat instead of marketing it as TN ingA. Get OVER it. There is a THIN line between optimism and denial and too many of you are crossing it
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Post by orpheous on Apr 15, 2010 13:20:32 GMT -5
and britney spears is one of the best artist of all time because she sold SO many records?? I mean the whole "How could SO many people be wrong if we all have the same opinion?" is dumb if you ask me... at the end of the day.. you hate tna.. and that is fine...that is your opinion.. we can go pages and pages of talking about this... but at the end of the day... what the hell does it matter to you? does vince mcmahon write you checks every week to watch raw?? I watch raw as well... I just enjoy TNA as well ...is that WRONG or something??? Some of you people act like you cant like both.... get a life man
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Post by Random Hero Est. 2003 on Apr 15, 2010 13:23:30 GMT -5
and britney spears is one of the best artist of all time because she sold SO many records?? I mean the whole "How could SO many people be wrong if we all have the same opinion?" is dumb if you ask me... at the end of the day.. you hate tna.. and that is fine...that is your opinion.. we can go pages and pages of talking about this... but at the end of the day... what the hell does it matter to you? does vince mcmahon write you checks every week to watch raw?? I watch raw as well... I just enjoy TNA as well ...is that WRONG or something??? Some of you people act like you cant like both.... get a life man Brittney Spears was good at what she does, and dominated the music industry. TNA sucks at what they do, and is failing miserably. Your analogy sucked. And, my life revolves around critiquing TNA. Thank you very much.
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Post by orpheous on Apr 15, 2010 13:31:00 GMT -5
and britney spears is one of the best artist of all time because she sold SO many records?? I mean the whole "How could SO many people be wrong if we all have the same opinion?" is dumb if you ask me... at the end of the day.. you hate tna.. and that is fine...that is your opinion.. we can go pages and pages of talking about this... but at the end of the day... what the hell does it matter to you? does vince mcmahon write you checks every week to watch raw?? I watch raw as well... I just enjoy TNA as well ...is that WRONG or something??? Some of you people act like you cant like both.... get a life man Brittney Spears was good at what she does, and dominated the music industry. TNA sucks at what they do, and is failing miserably. Your analogy sucked. And, my life revolves around critiquing TNA. Thank you very much. LOL wow... you pretty much answered alot there... Britney spears is good at what she does ?? I dont even know what to say there buddy lol... and if your life really involves around critiquing TNA... then you have no life... case closed... funny how you just cant watch what you like and move on.
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Post by jfinnomore on Apr 15, 2010 13:49:40 GMT -5
Brittney Spears was good at what she does, and dominated the music industry. TNA sucks at what they do, and is failing miserably. Your analogy sucked. And, my life revolves around critiquing TNA. Thank you very much. LOL wow... you pretty much answered alot there... Britney spears is good at what she does ?? I dont even know what to say there buddy lol... and if your life really involves around critiquing TNA... then you have no life... case closed... funny how you just cant watch what you like and move on. Brittany's job is to sell records and concert tickets, she does that, so she's very good at what she does. . .
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Post by SodaGuy on Apr 15, 2010 13:50:36 GMT -5
Oh look.. more people telling TNA fans "Your opinion don't mean poop! TNA is gonna die so shut the f*** up and move on.".. just what we needed. I also love how he did the exact same thing, he b****ed about TNA fans doing. "You can't talk about TNA, without bashing the WWE". He couldn't even bash TNA.. without praising WWE. It's the same thing.
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Post by Seahorse on Apr 15, 2010 14:06:42 GMT -5
Lol @ Random Hero owning Rays.
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Post by SodaGuy on Apr 15, 2010 14:18:15 GMT -5
TNA isn't making stars, unlike the WWE (his words) Beer Money Inc is being made into stars, by showing they can hang with the "so great, big names" like Jeff Hardy and Van Dam. For, the past two weeks, Hardy & Van Dam have been laid out at the hands of Beer Money Inc in big ways (Beer Bottle, Fireball). AJ Styles is being made into a star by his partership with Ric Flair. Causual wrestling fans will tune in, see Flair/Styles, and think "He must be a star if he's with Flair!" then they'll see him wrestle and it just hammers that point in, more and more. Eric Young is being made into a star with this feud with Nash. Do you notice a trend here?! These guys are being made stars off the big names, because, it WORKS. Beer Money Inc went from being the most-over babyface tag team, even more over than the MCMG, to one of the most hated tag teams. Eric Young went from being an "anti-usa" heel that wouldn't defend his belt in the US to getting a reaction the size of Van Dam & Hardy. Yet, you still sit here and tell people "They're not making stars?". No, Alex Shelley isn't main eventing Lockdown. No, Okada isn't going to main event Sacrifice. No, because they're not build up into a main event guy yet. TNA has a fantastic top of the card with AJ Styles, The Pope, Kurt Angle, Mr. Anderson, Abyss, Desmond Wolfe, Jeff Hardy, Rob Van Dam and then the guys that can believably move up to the main event like Hernandez and Matt Morgan. If TNA Loses SpikeTV, They're F***ed" Yeah, because TNA wasn't possibly around 3-4 years without SpikeTV. While, SpikeTV does fund stuff for TNA (paying 1/2 of some of the big contracts, etc). He acts like TNA just doesn't do anything but put on a show. I guesss SpikeTV pays for the arena rentals for live events, for merchandise to me paid, for billboards/advertisements on other channels. Everything TNA Does Is Second Rate While, I'll give him the production values are not to "that level", you have to remember the fact TNA hasn't had but 8 years to workon that. But, to call the talent second rate is stupid. All he did was go " THE X-DIVISION!". Yeah, let's ignore Kurt Angle, Desmond Wolfe, AJ Styles, James Storm, Robert Roode, Abyss, Jeff Jarrett, Matt Morgan, Samoa Joe, who are no-were close to "spot monkey's". Great way to s*** all over great wrestlers. And at the end.. he proves he's an idiot.. he basically has admitted "TNA has sucked since the beginning!" then why in gods name are you still watching?! It's freaking pointless. I'm so sick of the "If you like TNA, then you need to pull your head out of your ass" or "If you like TNA, you need to be put in a mental hospital." So, we can't be a fan of a company without something telling us we need to be put in a mental hospital? You don't like TNA, we get it. Sheesh. And now, I'm sure this is the part where someone comes on here and explains how all my points have flaws and I'm just a TNA mark. Oh well.
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Post by downsyndrome on Apr 15, 2010 14:47:30 GMT -5
TNA isn't making stars, unlike the WWE (his words) Beer Money Inc is being made into stars, by showing they can hang with the "so great, big names" like Jeff Hardy and Van Dam. For, the past two weeks, Hardy & Van Dam have been laid out at the hands of Beer Money Inc in big ways (Beer Bottle, Fireball). AJ Styles is being made into a star by his partership with Ric Flair. Causual wrestling fans will tune in, see Flair/Styles, and think "He must be a star if he's with Flair!" then they'll see him wrestle and it just hammers that point in, more and more. Eric Young is being made into a star with this feud with Nash. Do you notice a trend here?! These guys are being made stars off the big names, because, it WORKS. Beer Money Inc went from being the most-over babyface tag team, even more over than the MCMG, to one of the most hated tag teams. Eric Young went from being an "anti-usa" heel that wouldn't defend his belt in the US to getting a reaction the size of Van Dam & Hardy. Yet, you still sit here and tell people "They're not making stars?". No, Alex Shelley isn't main eventing Lockdown. No, Okada isn't going to main event Sacrifice. No, because they're not build up into a main event guy yet. TNA has a fantastic top of the card with AJ Styles, The Pope, Kurt Angle, Mr. Anderson, Abyss, Desmond Wolfe, Jeff Hardy, Rob Van Dam and then the guys that can believably move up to the main event like Hernandez and Matt Morgan. If TNA Loses SpikeTV, They're F***ed" Yeah, because TNA wasn't possibly around 3-4 years without SpikeTV. While, SpikeTV does fund stuff for TNA (paying 1/2 of some of the big contracts, etc). He acts like TNA just doesn't do anything but put on a show. I guesss SpikeTV pays for the arena rentals for live events, for merchandise to me paid, for billboards/advertisements on other channels. Everything TNA Does Is Second Rate While, I'll give him the production values are not to "that level", you have to remember the fact TNA hasn't had but 8 years to workon that. But, to call the talent second rate is stupid. All he did was go " THE X-DIVISION!". Yeah, let's ignore Kurt Angle, Desmond Wolfe, AJ Styles, James Storm, Robert Roode, Abyss, Jeff Jarrett, Matt Morgan, Samoa Joe, who are no-were close to "spot monkey's". Great way to s*** all over great wrestlers. And at the end.. he proves he's an idiot.. he basically has admitted "TNA has sucked since the beginning!" then why in gods name are you still watching?! It's freaking pointless. I'm so sick of the "If you like TNA, then you need to pull your head out of your ass" or "If you like TNA, you need to be put in a mental hospital." So, we can't be a fan of a company without something telling us we need to be put in a mental hospital? You don't like TNA, we get it. Sheesh. And now, I'm sure this is the part where someone comes on here and explains how all my points have flaws and I'm just a TNA mark. Oh well. Before you said all that, I was getting ready to say that I feel as though people are more or less telling us. It's wrong to be a fan of TNA.
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Post by annelid on Apr 15, 2010 14:49:50 GMT -5
"Brittney Spears was good at what she does, and dominated the music industry. TNA sucks at what they do, and is failing miserably. Your analogy sucked. And, my life revolves around critiquing TNA. Thank you very much."
And there's no accounting for bad taste.
That being said if your life revolves around critiquing TNA that would make you somewhat of a Critic (ie...offers reasoned judgement or analysis, value judgement, interpretation, or observation.)
So enlighten us lesser informed wrestling fans on what TNA can do to improve their product?
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Post by downsyndrome on Apr 15, 2010 14:53:34 GMT -5
"Brittney Spears was good at what she does, and dominated the music industry. TNA sucks at what they do, and is failing miserably. Your analogy sucked. And, my life revolves around critiquing TNA. Thank you very much." And there's no accounting for bad taste. That being said if your life revolves around critiquing TNA that would make you somewhat of a Critic (ie...offers reasoned judgement or analysis, value judgement, interpretation, or observation.) So enlighten us lesser informed wrestling fans on what TNA can do to improve their product? You just became my favorite poster. ;D
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Post by Joey Cush on Apr 15, 2010 14:54:14 GMT -5
"Brittney Spears was good at what she does, and dominated the music industry. TNA sucks at what they do, and is failing miserably. Your analogy sucked. And, my life revolves around critiquing TNA. Thank you very much." And there's no accounting for bad taste. That being said if your life revolves around critiquing TNA that would make you somewhat of a Critic (ie...offers reasoned judgement or analysis, value judgement, interpretation, or observation.) So enlighten us lesser informed wrestling fans on what TNA can do to improve their product? As said in the video, they should stop worrying about what WWE si doing and worry about themselves only.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 15, 2010 15:06:55 GMT -5
This guy is a classic WWE MARK. He does not know what TNA is. Probably has not watched TNA and comes across like a total douche in this youtube video.
And this comes from a guy who DOES NOT like the TNA product right now.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Apr 15, 2010 15:16:34 GMT -5
Wow, talk about being the in the deep end of the river called denial. Let's review Being a star and being known are two completely different things. We all know who these guys are because we watch wrestling, but take some photos of them onto the street and I bet that a majority of people will assume that they ALL work for WWE. Could it one day be different, yeah maybe, but that was the guy's point! They were all most done after they lost the Fox sports deal, then WWE left Spike to go back to go back to USA. History, lets remember it correctly people. So yeah I think he has another valid point. Its second rate when people order PPV's and the A/V club from some middle school that TNA hired to produce it can't sync the AUDIO to the VIDEO on a live feed! I know this because it happend last year on at least 3 PPV's. And the "They've only been around 8 years" is such a cop out its not even funny. In this day an age when you can go on YouTube and find homemade videos that are better produced, that is a failure in execution by management. He only crapped on the X-division guys, not on any of the guys you mentioned. And how many times have you read/seen interviews where most people in the business tell you that having matches that are basically spot fests don't draw? Practically all of the ones I've seen/read. Don't get me wrong I like the X-division, but it didn't reach its apex until Samoa Joe was involved. I'm not trying to tell you that you are a mark for defending TNA, but damn have a little perspective and I don't know have FACTS and or the correct histrionics on things before you haul off and blindly defend something. TNA started off really well and I loved watching it until the last few years, mainly since THAT DOUCHE BAG (I can't even say his name anymore, otherwise I'm gonna write a hateful email to him, lol). Its threads like these that remind me of something my mom taught me a long time ago. She told that once I'm out in the real world I would realize that this saying will always be true: "Money talks, and bullcrapwalks." Right now TNA is doing a lot of walking and zero talking. Their lips are flapping but they aren't saying anything worth a damn.
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Post by orpheous on Apr 15, 2010 15:25:10 GMT -5
Lol @ Random Hero owning Rays. Your a RAW threadhead but have orlando jizzing on himself in your sig and avatar??um you must be an idiot if you think he OWNED anything..like a brain... I said whats wrong with liking both companies.... he never answered that.. just keep throwing out WWE jabs and how great britney is without seeing the point i was trying to make on his comment about how can EVERYBODY be wrong to have his opinion..she sold millions of records...with 5% talent...I wasnt aware this was such a PRO britney forums..some people around here prob never watched impact... but they act like they do and bash TNA to death.. for what? to be on this banwagon.. I just cant see how some people just cant enjoy wrestling like we did back in the day ... some people just need to get a life
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Post by carly1988 on Apr 15, 2010 15:27:11 GMT -5
why do people say that TNA is making stars?? I mean really cmon people. AJ Styles, Beer Money, Samoa Joe, Motor City Machine Guns.....they're all great talents but they're not "stars". They struggle selling out nickel and dime arenas around the country. Have two autograph signings in the same city, 1 being WWE Champ John Cena and the other being TNA champ AJ Styles....Lets see which one gets a better turn out. People need to quit getting "talent" confused with being a star. AJ Styles is the champ and could walk into my Walmart and buy a gallon of milk and nobody would say a word to him. Think that would happen with Batista?
The "stars" of TNA, like it or not, are the Hogans, Flairs, Stings etc.
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Post by orpheous on Apr 15, 2010 15:30:37 GMT -5
why do people say that TNA is making stars?? I mean really cmon people. AJ Styles, Beer Money, Samoa Joe, Motor City Machine Guns.....they're all great talents but they're not "stars". They struggle selling out nickel and dime arenas around the country. Have two autograph signings in the same city, 1 being WWE Champ John Cena and the other being TNA champ AJ Styles....Lets see which one gets a better turn out. People need to quit getting "talent" confused with being a star. AJ Styles is the champ and could walk into my Walmart and buy a gallon of milk and nobody would say a word to him. Think that would happen with Batista? The "stars" of TNA, like it or not, are the Hogans, Flairs, Stings etc. thats because WWE is a WAY larger company that also invest more in movies, etc... John Cena is holdhouse name now.. I mean there are a few people you cant ignore have made more of a name in the wrestling world in tna .. Use the POPE as an example..... and remember as much as we like wrestling etc, there are millions that love and watch wrestling but are not on the internet everyday, etc..
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