UFC 116: Lesnar vs Carwin Thread

Just finally watched it, and man the card was great.

Leben is really the story of the night. Coming to fight again 2 weeks after his last fight and winning in the last 20 seconds BY SUBMISSION! Damn, that was a great fight.

Carwin showed pretty aggressive punches, but pretty much wore himself out due to his aggressiveness, but big props to Brock for covering up well and coming back in the 2nd round with the submission. I hope to see Lesnar vs. Velasquez soon.

I think it depends on what everyone learned from last night (including Brock, Carwin, and Velasquez) and how they adapt their training and strategies to that.

• We learned that Lesnar's chin is great and he's hard to knock out, so blowing your wad trying to do it in less than 5 minutes is poor strategy.
  
• We learned that Carwin needs a combination of better cardio and better pacing (i.e., know when to slow yourself down).
  
• We learned that somebody is definitely trying to teach Lesnar submissions and Brock is capable of spotting the opening for a choke and willing to take advantage of it (doesn't make him a submissions wizard, but it does add one more element for his opponents to train to avoid).
  
• We learned Brock can fight through pain and avoid being overwhelmed (so trying to overwhelm him with strikes is more of a gamble... your stamina vs. Brock's will to keep fighting).
  
• We learned that a good wrestler can hang with Brock on the ground so long as he's inflicting enough damage to keep control (otherwise, it's a matter of time before Brock's power and wrestling ability put him back in the advantage).
  

All of those things are fascinating because I trust that Lesnar, Carwin and Velasquez will take them into account in future training and game-planning. So if Carwin and Lesnar rematch at some point after Velasquez fights Brock, I doubt either guy will make the same mistakes... which makes it a whole new fight, and really fascinating to think about.

Lesnar wasn't even really hit with a full-on shot. He showed great recovery though.

He needs a chin like that when he's facing the likes of Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez because you know they are going to be throwing bombs.

JR/Austin/Goldberg and Heyman interviewed by Ariel Helwani after the fights. Pretty Cool

Im glad Leben won but..

Wanderlei would kill him if they fought.

You think he would kill him, but I think it's safe to say that after the last 2 weeks we can't rule ANYTHING out. I mean, Fedor tapping out to Werdum and Brock winning by submission over Carwin. Two of the most UNLIKELY scenarios ever man and yet, they both happened.

Upsets can and will happen at ANY given time and I believe Leben stands a very good chance at shocking the MMA world and getting a victory over Wanderlei Silva.

NEVER rule out anything in MMA, no matter how unliklely it may be because it may just happen in the end.

Wanderleis chin is just fine, Rampage was the last one to knock him out need i say more..

And Lenben dosen't have as much power as Rampage..

Also i believe Wanderleis stand up is much better than Lebens.