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Post by zipzapzoobitybop on Jul 16, 2010 2:22:12 GMT -5
i get the feeling that the title is about to change hands Let's just remember who else was undefeated not to long ago until some beast ran through his bi*ch a** YEAH GO LESNAR!!!! |
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 16, 2010 3:02:10 GMT -5
"Ran though"
Not sure about that. Lesnar was getting his ass kicked, then Carwin did a stupid thing and punched himself out. Velasquez has crazy cardio.
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Post by 1992 on Jul 16, 2010 5:05:20 GMT -5
i get the feeling that the title is about to change hands Let's just remember who else was undefeated not to long ago until some beast ran through his bi*ch a** YEAH GO LESNAR!!!! Ran through? b*tch ass? Get the  out. |
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Post by sean™ on Jul 16, 2010 13:30:42 GMT -5
I won't act like Cain couldn't end this the same way Carwin almost did, but I do have confidence in Brock and his camp to come up with an accurate game plan to push through and win.
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Post by theviperfp on Jul 16, 2010 16:18:13 GMT -5
I'd really love to see Lesnar vs. Dos Santos
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Post by Sandy on Jul 17, 2010 1:29:50 GMT -5
who the hell would Ortiz face? the one thing Tito does have in his favor is he hasn't ever really been knocked out cold. So if Liddell could have chance after chance even after being KNOCKED THE F*** OUT then I saw WTF, why not have Tito fight. ..the thing is though he isn't going to be fighting ANYONE in the top 10. Rampage, Thiago Silva, Machida, Rashad Evans, Lil Nog, etc will all smash him. ..the only matches I see him getting that he would be satisfied with is a third and final match with Forrest Griffin, Rich Franklin, or a match against Liddell after much convincing on Chuck's part. other than that I would say Tito should face someone like Bones or Ryan Bader..but I know he wouldn't accept either fight since neither guy is a "name". I'm not badmouthing Jones either...Bones is the future and I think he would smash Tito, too... the only fight that makes sense is Forrest or Chuck. I feel the second fight between the two was competitive enough up until the third round for me to be convinced that Tito has at least one more decent fight in him. lol rampage is in your top ten. Ummm... Yeah he is. The guy was ranked #2 or 3 last year....one loss to Rashad doesn't drop you off the top 10. |
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Post by Hawks_NFC West Champions on Jul 17, 2010 4:47:59 GMT -5
who the hell would Ortiz face? the one thing Tito does have in his favor is he hasn't ever really been knocked out cold. So if Liddell could have chance after chance even after being KNOCKED THE F*** OUT then I saw WTF, why not have Tito fight. ..the thing is though he isn't going to be fighting ANYONE in the top 10. Rampage, Thiago Silva, Machida, Rashad Evans, Lil Nog, etc will all smash him. ..the only matches I see him getting that he would be satisfied with is a third and final match with Forrest Griffin, Rich Franklin, or a match against Liddell after much convincing on Chuck's part. other than that I would say Tito should face someone like Bones or Ryan Bader..but I know he wouldn't accept either fight since neither guy is a "name". I'm not badmouthing Jones either...Bones is the future and I think he would smash Tito, too... the only fight that makes sense is Forrest or Chuck. I feel the second fight between the two was competitive enough up until the third round for me to be convinced that Tito has at least one more decent fight in him. First off, I'm freaking pumped to hear Tito fighting again soon! Secondly, Tito just got surgery done again, so I don't see Tito stopping anytime soon. I see him still having one more go around as champion. And as for who he could fight: Chuck, Forrest, Rashad, Rampage, Lyoto. Honestly, the possibilities are endless. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 22, 2010 4:23:09 GMT -5
Tito vs. Forrest III is rumored for this card now. Haha.
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Jul 22, 2010 8:09:16 GMT -5
Tito vs. Forrest III is rumored for this card now. Haha. Hopefully Tito will show a little more effort in this fight as he seemed to just ****foot around there last go round. I hope Lesnar can come out with a W against Cain, people are truly doubting Cain as competition for him though or at least MMATorch. I'm hoping Brock will have a good showing, so he better train insane for Cain. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 22, 2010 14:53:26 GMT -5
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Post by sean™ on Jul 22, 2010 16:57:46 GMT -5
Hopefully the only monsterous growth on the back of Hamill this time will be Tito.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 22, 2010 16:59:52 GMT -5
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 22, 2010 17:40:45 GMT -5
Sure Cain is a tremendous fighter and has beaten alot of quality opponents, but this is Brock Lesnar he's stepping in there with. Someone only 1 person has beaten and of course, Brock avenged that loss and hasn't lost since.
Cain better put on alot of weight like Mir did because if he stays at 220-230, he doesn't have a prayer. He'll just be FAR too small for Lesnar. Brock will run right through him and take him down and pound him out.
In order to be a threat to Brock, in my opinion, you've got to be the size of Brock and I'm sorry, but Cain is just way too small. Carwin NEARLY had it in the bag, but Brock hung in there and took Carwin's best shots and gutted it out and finished him off.
I really like Cain Velasquez as a fighter, but I don't give him much of a chance against the beast that is Brock Lesnar. He's just too small. Brock will win this one. Bank on it.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 22, 2010 17:44:02 GMT -5
If he puts on weight, he'll lose his speed and flexibility. He should stay at his weight he is at. His weight is fine. Mir put on weight and it ruined him. Now he's going to lose weight.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 22, 2010 17:52:06 GMT -5
Well, we'll just see how Cain does when he's got about 290 pounds of Brock Lesnar ontop of him dropping bombs to his face. He'll have a bitch of a time trying to get Lesnar off of him, that's for sure.
Brock has got the obvious size, weight and strength advantage going into this fight and I think that will be FAR too much for Cain to overcome.
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Post by The Mac on Jul 22, 2010 18:51:54 GMT -5
^ I agree totally man, Brock will destroy him!
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 22, 2010 20:16:43 GMT -5
Well, we'll just see how Cain does when he's got about 290 pounds of Brock Lesnar ontop of him dropping bombs to his face. He'll have a bitch of a time trying to get Lesnar off of him, that's for sure. Brock has got the obvious size, weight and strength advantage going into this fight and I think that will be FAR too much for Cain to overcome. Couture was 220lbs when he fought Lesnar and gave him problems throughout the first round and part of the second. Cain is much faster than Couture. |
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Post by Sandy on Jul 22, 2010 20:18:14 GMT -5
huge ass card...
I think that is a fight Tito can definitely win.
and I think Cain is a beast but I still think Brock will win.
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Post by Mr. Orange on Jul 22, 2010 20:55:53 GMT -5
Might as well update with the whole thing:
Main Event: Champ Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez (for heavyweight title)
Matt Hamill vs. Tito Ortiz
Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Brendan Schaub
Martin Kampmann vs. Jake Shields
Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago
Ryan Jensen vs. Court McGee
Todd Duffee vs. Jon Madsen
Patrick Cote vs. Tom Lawlor
Sam Stout vs. Paul Taylor
Chris Camozzi vs. Dongi Yang
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 22, 2010 21:18:20 GMT -5
I doubt Ortiz/Hamill will be the co-main event. I'm almost positive Kampmann/Shields will be.
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