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Post by Hawks_NFC West Champions on Jul 22, 2010 21:29:40 GMT -5
I doubt Ortiz/Hamill will be the co-main event. I'm almost positive Kampmann/Shields will be. Why do you doubt Tito/Hamill being co main event? Hamill and Bisping co main evented a PPV, and Tito is more popular then Bisping imo. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 22, 2010 21:34:19 GMT -5
That wasn't a PPV, it was a Spike TV show.
Ortiz is coming off 4 straight sh*t fights for him.
It'll be Shields/Kampmann.
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Post by Mr. Orange on Jul 22, 2010 21:49:24 GMT -5
That wasn't a PPV, it was a Spike TV show. Ortiz is coming off 4 straight sh*t fights for him. It'll be Shields/Kampmann. True, but Ortiz is still a big draw. Add in the fact that the casual UFC fan may not know who Shields is, Tito will probably get the co main event. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2010 22:09:19 GMT -5
Sounds great, no matter what the co-main event is. It'd be good to see Tito again.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 22, 2010 22:17:15 GMT -5
That wasn't a PPV, it was a Spike TV show. Ortiz is coming off 4 straight sh*t fights for him. It'll be Shields/Kampmann. True, but Ortiz is still a big draw. Add in the fact that the casual UFC fan may not know who Shields is, Tito will probably get the co main event. Tito was given a gift when Lesnar pulled out of 106. Until then, he hadn't been in the main event since he got killed by Liddell. |
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Post by Sandy on Jul 22, 2010 22:22:10 GMT -5
That wasn't a PPV, it was a Spike TV show. Ortiz is coming off 4 straight sh*t fights for him. It'll be Shields/Kampmann. if Liddell can MAIN EVENT after 3 or 4 straight KO's then I think Tito can Co-Main Event after a close decision loss to Forrest. Was it a razor thin decision? No...Was it Tito's best performance? Not by a long shot. But he didn't get manhandled by Forrest. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 22, 2010 22:41:45 GMT -5
Forrest clearly won though.
Liddell is Dana's best friend, which is why he is given special treatment all the time. Ortiz isn't the same.
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Post by NYdream™ on Jul 22, 2010 22:48:07 GMT -5
Well, we'll just see how Cain does when he's got about 290 pounds of Brock Lesnar ontop of him dropping bombs to his face. He'll have a bitch of a time trying to get Lesnar off of him, that's for sure. Brock has got the obvious size, weight and strength advantage going into this fight and I think that will be FAR too much for Cain to overcome. Couture was 220lbs when he fought Lesnar and gave him problems throughout the first round and part of the second. Cain is much faster than Couture. Couture did give him problems... Look how it ended. So did Carwinn. Major problems. Also look how that one ended. I could be wrong but I think Lesnar will win this. Will be a tough test though... |
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 22, 2010 22:57:44 GMT -5
Couture got caught on the temple and was looking good the entire fight. Carwin was just an idiot and gassed himself out. The Carwin fight could have even been stopped in a few instances.
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Post by sean™ on Jul 23, 2010 9:25:20 GMT -5
Outside of the ending moments, I really couldn't give an advantage to either Randy or Brock that entire fight. Couture was good at getting back to his feet, and Brock got better throughout the fight against the cage. Once Brock landed that short elbow and they brock away from the cage before the temple punch, I would have given it to either guy. That's just me.
I also have to laugh at Mr. Old School's "290 pounds of Brock Lesnar" comment, considering Brock's new diet has him at 240 all the time now. Brock will still have a size advantage, but not that much.
Although Carwin was at fault for punching himself out, I still think Brock would have gotten the takedown in the second. In my opinion, Carwin didn't really "stuff" Brock's first attempt so much as he didn't let go of Brock and stood back up. It reminded me of both the Frank Mir takedowns, except Frank was too overwhelmed to really try getting back up.
I guess my point is that everyone said Brock couldn't stand with Carwin. Well, he couldn't really. Then everyone said that Carwin's wrestling would rival Brock's. Well, I'm sure it would have if it really came to that. But when it came to getting the W, Brock went for something that no one really expected. So who knows, much like his other fights, just what Brock will bring to the table.
I'm still waiting for a Brock Lesnar Flying Knee knockout.
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Jul 24, 2010 3:50:35 GMT -5
Outside of the ending moments, I really couldn't give an advantage to either Randy or Brock that entire fight. Couture was good at getting back to his feet, and Brock got better throughout the fight against the cage. Once Brock landed that short elbow and they brock away from the cage before the temple punch, I would have given it to either guy. That's just me. I also have to laugh at Mr. Old School's "290 pounds of Brock Lesnar" comment, considering Brock's new diet has him at 240 all the time now. Brock will still have a size advantage, but not that much. Although Carwin was at fault for punching himself out, I still think Brock would have gotten the takedown in the second. In my opinion, Carwin didn't really "stuff" Brock's first attempt so much as he didn't let go of Brock and stood back up. It reminded me of both the Frank Mir takedowns, except Frank was too overwhelmed to really try getting back up. I guess my point is that everyone said Brock couldn't stand with Carwin. Well, he couldn't really. Then everyone said that Carwin's wrestling would rival Brock's. Well, I'm sure it would have if it really came to that. But when it came to getting the W, Brock went for something that no one really expected. So who knows, much like his other fights, just what Brock will bring to the table. I'm still waiting for a Brock Lesnar Flying Knee knockout. 290? He just weighed in at 265 last month. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 24, 2010 3:54:46 GMT -5
Brock is probably around 275 before he makes the cut.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 24, 2010 7:03:26 GMT -5
Brock is probably around 275 before he makes the cut. And how much come fight-time?? I'd say about 280-290 for sure. They all cut weight and end up putting alot back on, come fight-time. It'll but a great fight for sure. I just believe the size and strength of Brock will be too much for Cain, that's all. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 24, 2010 14:24:31 GMT -5
Brock and Carwin are the only 2 guys who cut to make 265, not "all" of them. He is 275 like I said. Not 280-290.
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Post by Lk™ on Jul 30, 2010 6:59:58 GMT -5
the card for this show looks STACKED
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