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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 22, 2010 17:29:35 GMT -5
This James Toney guy will be taken down and Randy will choke his ass out. Just watch and see. Randy is too good to be beaten by a first-timer to MMA. I'll take the old-pro over a rookie any day.
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Post by AONI on Jul 22, 2010 21:21:29 GMT -5
This James Toney guy will be taken down and Randy will choke his ass out. Just watch and see. Randy is too good to be beaten by a first-timer to MMA. I'll take the old-pro over a rookie any day. yeah, except this isnt just a punk off the street. not only does he pack a punch, he got the technique to back it up. he knows what hes doing. do i think he'll win? no, but i hope he does because should it happen, its aftermath will be a ton more exciting than what would happen if he lost. besides, they said the same stuff about lesnar when he got into MMA. *not saying he's the next champ* |
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Post by ville on Jul 22, 2010 21:44:23 GMT -5
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jul 23, 2010 17:20:58 GMT -5
This James Toney guy will be taken down and Randy will choke his ass out. Just watch and see. Randy is too good to be beaten by a first-timer to MMA. I'll take the old-pro over a rookie any day. yeah, except this isnt just a punk off the street. not only does he pack a punch, he got the technique to back it up. he knows what hes doing. do i think he'll win? no, but i hope he does because should it happen, its aftermath will be a ton more exciting than what would happen if he lost. besides, they said the same stuff about lesnar when he got into MMA. *not saying he's the next champ* History has proven that wrestlers make better MMA fighters than boxers. Lesnar is a one of a kind athlete. |
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Post by Boquest on Jul 23, 2010 17:58:47 GMT -5
To be fair...MMA has had Olympic wrestlers. I dont think MMA has ever had anyone even close to Toney's boxing talent.
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Post by ville on Jul 23, 2010 18:04:14 GMT -5
yeah, except this isnt just a punk off the street. not only does he pack a punch, he got the technique to back it up. he knows what hes doing. do i think he'll win? no, but i hope he does because should it happen, its aftermath will be a ton more exciting than what would happen if he lost. besides, they said the same stuff about lesnar when he got into MMA. *not saying he's the next champ* History has proven that wrestlers make better MMA fighters than boxers. Lesnar is a one of a kind athlete. To be fair...MMA has had Olympic wrestlers. I dont think MMA has ever had anyone even close to Toney's boxing talent. Exactly, Toney's footwork is amazing, his is really fast, no one can slip a punch and give one back twice as hard like Toney, I honestly think Randy will hav problems with his speed and head movement. Can't hit what your eyes can't see. |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jul 23, 2010 20:49:24 GMT -5
History has proven that wrestlers make better MMA fighters than boxers. Lesnar is a one of a kind athlete. To be fair...MMA has had Olympic wrestlers. I dont think MMA has ever had anyone even close to Toney's boxing talent. Exactly, Toney's footwork is amazing, his is really fast, no one can slip a punch and give one back twice as hard like Toney, I honestly think Randy will hav problems with his speed and head movement. Can't hit what your eyes can't see. How great of a boxer was Sakara? That's a serious question. No sarcasm. |
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Post by ville on Jul 23, 2010 21:05:26 GMT -5
Exactly, Toney's footwork is amazing, his is really fast, no one can slip a punch and give one back twice as hard like Toney, I honestly think Randy will hav problems with his speed and head movement. Can't hit what your eyes can't see. How great of a boxer was Sakara? That's a serious question. No sarcasm. Not nearly as agood as Toney. Also speaking of Sakara, he is fighting Gerald Harris instead. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 23, 2010 22:53:15 GMT -5
Weak hype. "he like, grabbed my foot". |
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Post by AONI on Jul 24, 2010 13:26:05 GMT -5
yeah, except this isnt just a punk off the street. not only does he pack a punch, he got the technique to back it up. he knows what hes doing. do i think he'll win? no, but i hope he does because should it happen, its aftermath will be a ton more exciting than what would happen if he lost. besides, they said the same stuff about lesnar when he got into MMA. *not saying he's the next champ* History has proven that wrestlers make better MMA fighters than boxers. Lesnar is a one of a kind athlete. well im sure that there is much more history involving the wrestling/MMA transition than there is the boxing/MMA transition. therefore, that history is skewed. toney is breakin in on new ground |
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Post by ville on Jul 24, 2010 18:13:59 GMT -5
Toney by Flying Armbar!
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Post by Mr. Orange on Jul 24, 2010 18:42:08 GMT -5
Nah man. No way Toney by gogoplata. Much more likely. |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jul 25, 2010 8:08:15 GMT -5
History has proven that wrestlers make better MMA fighters than boxers. Lesnar is a one of a kind athlete. well im sure that there is much more history involving the wrestling/MMA transition than there is the boxing/MMA transition. therefore, that history is skewed. toney is breakin in on new ground You missed the point. He said that people said the same about Lesnar. They did but being a high class wrestler, historically, his chances of MMA success were better than Toney's with him being a boxer. |
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Post by AONI on Jul 25, 2010 11:19:47 GMT -5
well im sure that there is much more history involving the wrestling/MMA transition than there is the boxing/MMA transition. therefore, that history is skewed. toney is breakin in on new ground You missed the point. He said that people said the same about Lesnar. They did but being a high class wrestler, historically, his chances of MMA success were better than Toney's with him being a boxer. no bro, i perfectly understood what you said. but you cannot say that brock's chances were better then than toney's now because of the fact that THERE WERE world class wrestlers PRECEDING brock. there has never been a champion boxer to step foot into the octagon, as far as i remember. |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jul 25, 2010 12:15:27 GMT -5
You missed the point. He said that people said the same about Lesnar. They did but being a high class wrestler, historically, his chances of MMA success were better than Toney's with him being a boxer. no bro, i perfectly understood what you said. but you cannot say that brock's chances were better then than toney's now because of the fact that THERE WERE world class wrestlers PRECEDING brock. there has never been a champion boxer to step foot into the octagon, as far as i remember. I see what you're saying. I was just speaking about boxers with professional experience. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 25, 2010 13:27:31 GMT -5
Sorry, but wrestling to MMA is a lot easier than boxing to MMA. Maybe if he was a kickboxer, I'd say something different, but that isn't the case.
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Post by AONI on Jul 25, 2010 13:27:33 GMT -5
no bro, i perfectly understood what you said. but you cannot say that brock's chances were better then than toney's now because of the fact that THERE WERE world class wrestlers PRECEDING brock. there has never been a champion boxer to step foot into the octagon, as far as i remember. I see what you're saying. I was just speaking about boxers with professional experience. regardless, i still see toney comin up w/ a loss. just not as easily as everyone thinks |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jul 25, 2010 14:43:41 GMT -5
I see what you're saying. I was just speaking about boxers with professional experience. regardless, i still see toney comin up w/ a loss. just not as easily as everyone thinks I do not agree. Excellent takedown defence can't be tought in a few months, and doesn't come natural. Randy knows how to get around a punch and shoot. I understand that Toney's a world class boxer and hits like a truck. I was a fan of him. I'm just saying that Randy's experience should win him the fight here. He proved with Napao that age doesn't make a difference. |
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Post by AONI on Jul 25, 2010 19:00:34 GMT -5
regardless, i still see toney comin up w/ a loss. just not as easily as everyone thinks I do not agree. Excellent takedown defence can't be tought in a few months, and doesn't come natural. Randy knows how to get around a punch and shoot. I understand that Toney's a world class boxer and hits like a truck. I was a fan of him. I'm just saying that Randy's experience should win him the fight here. He proved with Napao that age doesn't make a difference. haha, but youre makin it sound like toneys gonna step into the octagon and get tapped out 30 secs into the fight... and who knows, maybe that is your opinion. but toney will put up a fight because hes a champ and isnt stupid. you dont have to be a crafty vet to step into the octagon and go a round or two with randy couture |
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Post by AONI on Jul 25, 2010 19:03:10 GMT -5
Sorry, but wrestling to MMA is a lot easier than boxing to MMA. Maybe if he was a kickboxer, I'd say something different, but that isn't the case. and i get that. wrestling involves the ground game while boxing doesnt. but we wont truly know how hard or easy this kinda thing will be for a boxer until after the match. |
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