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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Aug 9, 2010 11:39:32 GMT -5
Also, I can't believe this hasn't been brought up earlier (at least not to my knowledge), but am I the only one who found it in really, REALLY bad taste that Tommy Dreamer's two little girls were sitting front row at a show meant for adults? Not to mention the fact that their father was getting beaten up and bloodied right in front of them. Do they have any idea how traumatizing that can be? Who the hell thought it was a good idea to bring two little girls to a show like this? And Dixie was sitting right next to them, unbelievable. Beulah and Dreamer are terrible, TERRIBLE parents for allowing their little girls to be there. I thought it was ridiculous and completely in poor taste. When they paned over, they were taken to the back for Beullah's run-in....Now, had they acted like Foley's kids, It would have added to the match. Especially if Raven teased them with their hand cuffed daddy. They shouldn't have been there to begin with, and they are little girls. They shouldn't be apart or have anything to do with a show like that. That's completely inappropriate.
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Aug 9, 2010 11:39:55 GMT -5
Also, I can't believe this hasn't been brought up earlier (at least not to my knowledge), but am I the only one who found it in really, REALLY bad taste that Tommy Dreamer's two little girls were sitting front row at a show meant for adults? Not to mention the fact that their father was getting beaten up and bloodied right in front of them. Do they have any idea how traumatizing that can be? Who the hell thought it was a good idea to bring two little girls to a show like this? And Dixie was sitting right next to them, unbelievable. Beulah and Dreamer are terrible, TERRIBLE parents for allowing their little girls to be there. I thought it was ridiculous and completely in poor taste. When they paned over, they were taken to the back for Beullah's run-in.... Now, had they acted like Foley's kids, It would have added to the match. Especially if Raven teased them with their hand cuffed daddy.
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Post by SodaGuy on Aug 9, 2010 12:07:10 GMT -5
I hate how you guys cant respect opinions around here I didn't care for the show but just because some other ppl enjoy it your gonna poop on'em? No thats not how it goes we all have our own opinions If you didn't like the show okay if you enjoyed it great I'm happy you got your money's worth out of it but there is no need to start bashing people. I could care less about other peoples opinions. I like the poor kid to death but I find it hilarious that TNA could put on a 3 hour child raping PPV and SG will say "Thats the most entertainment Ive had since ______. TNA is stepping up their game blah blah blah." So I will continue to pick on him every time he praises TNA for something that even Stevie Wonder can see is an abortion. That's funny, because I haven't "praised" this show now have I. You see that's what the problem here is the fact that people on here love to take my comments out of context and twist them into something they are not. Don't believe me? Look at this thread for a prime example. I have people telling me "I praise everything TNA does" Yes, because having FUN watching a show and getting what I paid to see is praising the company. You know, you would have room to stand on with this one if I had came on here and rated the show a 8/10 with all the matches being 4/10 or greater but I didn't do that, did I? I had FUN with the show. I got what I paid for it. It was worth the 3 hours I sat there because it was a FUN SHOW. Where did I "praise" the show? I didn't. I paid my $35 for the show and got my money worth out of the main event, Stevie Richards wrestling, and Raven/Dreamer. I had fun watching all the matches and was just a nice change of pace on pay-per-view. Was it the best show ever like half of you make it out like I said? No. Also, could someone please give him the whole "He is entitled to his opinion!" since I could get the entire "He is entitled to his own opinion" if I told someone I liked red jello in a thread about blue jello since apparently people on this forum have automatic updates and backup files on my post... or someone just has a giant thing for me if they can remember what I said back in July of 2009... "So I will continue to pick on him every time he praises TNA for something that even Stevie Wonder can see is an abortion" So, you're basically saying my opinion is wrong? Intresting... I demand the speech. deskjet, get on that! Sodaguy, in your eyes, TNA does no wrong. You can back up ANYTHING TNA does. We have opinions. You have an opinion. Don't tell us that "if we don't like, don't watch." I want TNA to succeed, hence why I watch. Odds are, if people who didn't like TNA didn't watch, it'd be pulling .4-.5s. We have a right to our opinion (as you do yours), so don't tell us we shouldn't comment on a product we are choosing to watch. So, let me get this straight - I can't tell you (or anyone for that matter) "If you don't like it, then don't watch" yet I'm willing to bit that if I constantly go out of my way to watch every show WWE puts on (including pay-per-views) to where I go complain about every little thing on that show at any given point from the start time until the fade to black, that 75+% of the WWE board wouldn't tell me the exam exact thing? They would. I know for a fact they would because they told me that a couple of years back when I watched the product - it's the same thing but it seems there are two totally, I guess, "code of conducts" around here. If you bash-WWE, then you get told to "don't like, don't watch" yet if you if bash TNA and are told "don't like, don't watch" - you're saying people can't have an opinion. Also, I don't know where you pulled your crap from because I didn't tell anyone what to comment on. Yes, you are damn right I told Joey Cush that if he didn't like the show, to stop watching it. He would be one of the FIRST people who did the same thing in the WWE board to anyone who went in there and complained about RAW, NXT, SD, and SS this week. Have an opinion, I don't care but just because I reply to you or anyone else, it doesn't mean I'm telling you "you can't have an opinion" and if you would bother to read what I say sometimes instead of reading it half-way then deciding on it's a great idea to jump all over my case about something, you would know that. I try to treat opinions on here with respect but my patience have run out on respecting other people's opinions yet those same people taking a crap all over mine every single day no matter what I say.
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Post by SodaGuy on Aug 9, 2010 12:12:08 GMT -5
When they paned over, they were taken to the back for Beullah's run-in....Now, had they acted like Foley's kids, It would have added to the match. Especially if Raven teased them with their hand cuffed daddy. They shouldn't have been there to begin with, and they are little girls. They shouldn't be apart or have anything to do with a show like that. That's completely inappropriate. It's really no different than anyone else bringing their kids to the show to be honest. I see where you're coming from but I think judging their parenting skills because they were there based on that is kind of silly. It's not like they're babys and they can separate fantasy from reality. I mean, Foley had his kids at the RR (1999 or 2000) and they were featured on BTM. Does that make him a bad dad? No, not really. I'm sure Dreamer and his daughters had the "what daddy does for a living" talk years ago.
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Post by jfinnomore on Aug 9, 2010 12:22:17 GMT -5
They shouldn't have been there to begin with, and they are little girls. They shouldn't be apart or have anything to do with a show like that. That's completely inappropriate. It's really no different than anyone else bringing their kids to the show to be honest. I see where you're coming from but I think judging their parenting skills because they were there based on that is kind of silly. It's not like they're babys and they can separate fantasy from reality. I mean, Foley had his kids at the RR (1999 or 2000) and they were featured on BTM. Does that make him a bad dad? No, not really. I'm sure Dreamer and his daughters had the "what daddy does for a living" talk years ago. taking your kid to a wrestling show and taking your kids to see daddy get his head busted open is a little different. does it make Tommy a bad father? no, but obviously it wasn't something they wanted their kids to see if they took them backstage as soon as Tommy started bleeding.
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Post by SodaGuy on Aug 9, 2010 12:31:40 GMT -5
It's really no different than anyone else bringing their kids to the show to be honest. I see where you're coming from but I think judging their parenting skills because they were there based on that is kind of silly. It's not like they're babys and they can separate fantasy from reality. I mean, Foley had his kids at the RR (1999 or 2000) and they were featured on BTM. Does that make him a bad dad? No, not really. I'm sure Dreamer and his daughters had the "what daddy does for a living" talk years ago. taking your kid to a wrestling show and taking your kids to see daddy get his head busted open is a little different. does it make Tommy a bad father? no, but obviously it wasn't something they wanted their kids to see if they took them backstage as soon as Tommy started bleeding. I'm talking about other wrestlers bringing their kids to the shows. Also, if you notice that Dixie Carter is the one who started to tell them to go backstage and it was obviously just something they tossed into the match to build it up. Raven went over to them before the match, Dreamer went over to them before the match, it's not a coincidence of where they were sitting and where Dreamer started bleeding.
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Post by ttr23 on Aug 9, 2010 13:00:30 GMT -5
First off dont call me a jackass, because your nothing but a WWE mark that ive noticed just runs around in this thread dogging TNA. I get what your saying, your acting like the match was a big cluster f*** which just proves your simple minded, they're wasnt too much going on in the match. It was a one night only event with 2 announced matches, 1 which had to be replaced and they still tore it up better then most WWE main events lately. So listen JACKASS, go back to your WWE hole and watch Jeff Hardy matches from his prime, you know when he was still on the meth. Hey I'll GLADLY go watch guys like Jericho, Orton, Edge, and all the other talents on RAW actually WRESTLE matches, jackass. don't even bother with him he is a hypocrite i don't see him bitching about summer slam wich is this sunday ony has three announced matches i also didn't see him bitching about fatal 4 way where half the matches were announced during the show. plus he is a fan of a drug addict so his opinion doesn't matter Hmm, HCJ had 1 match announced that ACTUALLY happened. SummerSlam has 1 more FULL week of WWE build, which is a total of 4 shows if you didnt know that. So with there 3 top matches in WWE & WHC titles and the Nexus, plus probably Ziggler/Kofi to be announced Friday... Im PRETTY sure they have time to announce 2-3 more matches EDIT: And to add, they announced Big Show Vs SES. So thats 4 matches announced, 1 more on the way for the IC title. They'll announce a Diva's match and maybe 2 more. So I dont see how I'm a hypocrite when Summer Slam actually has matches announced where the guys will actually, you know.. wrestle the matches announced. [/quote] lol at you saying that guys the miz r truth primo all of nexus minus wade barrett zack ryder hhh The Great Khali the uso's john super five moves of doom man cena golddust sheamus the bella's maryse Melina Alicia fox eve Jillian marh henary Natalya the hart dynsaty Santino Marella randy boreton and edge can WRESTLE
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 9, 2010 13:20:21 GMT -5
yup
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Post by GoCanes84 on Aug 9, 2010 15:10:28 GMT -5
If you didn't enjoy this show - then you probably weren't a fan of the original ECW.
Of course the show had its good(Scorpio/CW, Dreamer/Raven, RVD/Sabu, Dudley fun), its bad (the lighting even though they were trying to recreate the old ECW), and its ugly (Pitbull # 1 promos).... but so does every show.
But to me, someone who grew up with ECW, the PPV was extremely enjoyable to watch. I thought MitB was a very good PPV so I will not compare the two. But this PPV was so much more enjoyable than Fatal Four Way, even in a wrestling manner.
As far as botched spots, etc.- As a lot of earlier posters mentioned, the real ECW had all kinds of mess-ups, i.e. New Jack waiting 3 minutes for Gertner to get up and get the guitar shot... it's just how these spots work. It isn't because they are all old... it was just how ECW always was.
The show was nostalgic... and I think Tommy did the absolute best with what he had. I never thought I would see 2 Cold Scorpio again- and I did, and damn I am happy I did. I never thought I would see Fonzie hold up a chair for an RVD chair-kick ever again, but I did.... etc, etc. As an original ECW fan, this show delivered and I am glad I purchased it.... I enjoyed 95% percent of it and seeing the old guys back together was awesome.
And it was great that Sandman wasn't in a match- his part was perfect for what he can do. As was everyone's part it seemed. Tommy and whoever else put the show together knew everyone capabilities and used them as best as possible. I was concerned(and didn't want the ECW guys to put on an embarassing show) that the PPV would be an absolute train-wreck, but it was far from it!
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Post by jfinnomore on Aug 9, 2010 15:53:59 GMT -5
If you didn't enjoy this show - then you probably weren't a fan of the original ECW. Of course the show had its good(Scorpio/CW, Dreamer/Raven, RVD/Sabu, Dudley fun), its bad (the lighting even though they were trying to recreate the old ECW), and its ugly (Pitbull # 1 promos).... but so does every show. But to me, someone who grew up with ECW, the PPV was extremely enjoyable to watch. I thought MitB was a very good PPV so I will not compare the two. But this PPV was so much more enjoyable than Fatal Four Way, even in a wrestling manner. As far as botched spots, etc.- As a lot of earlier posters mentioned, the real ECW had all kinds of mess-ups, i.e. New Jack waiting 3 minutes for Gertner to get up and get the guitar shot... it's just how these spots work. It isn't because they are all old... it was just how ECW always was. The show was nostalgic... and I think Tommy did the absolute best with what he had. I never thought I would see 2 Cold Scorpio again- and I did, and damn I am happy I did. I never thought I would see Fonzie hold up a chair for an RVD chair-kick ever again, but I did.... etc, etc. As an original ECW fan, this show delivered and I am glad I purchased it.... I enjoyed 95% percent of it and seeing the old guys back together was awesome. And it was great that Sandman wasn't in a match- his part was perfect for what he can do. As was everyone's part it seemed. Tommy and whoever else put the show together knew everyone capabilities and used them as best as possible. I was concerned(and didn't want the ECW guys to put on an embarassing show) that the PPV would be an absolute train-wreck, but it was far from it! the original ECW was my all time favorite wrestling promotion and I still hated 90% of the PPV last night. they'll never recreate or capture the magic and mystic that was ECW. most of these guys are far past their prime and even the ones that arent their feuds and matches with each other were 100% better in the original ECW. The PPV was pointless and was a booking cluster at best.
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Post by hordak84 on Aug 9, 2010 16:55:19 GMT -5
i watched PPV earlier and i have to say it was not anywhere near orginal ECW or even ECW one night stand. but still this was much better than ECW December to dismember ppv from WWE few years ago.
there was 3 matches i liked and one cool spot when Balls..Kahoney was tossed though of flaming table. and it was nice see Gangstas back together.
Scorpio vs CW Anderson was decent
Tommy Dreamer vs Raven was pretty good brawl
and Sabu Vs RVD was good main event but rest of the matches was either horrible or bad.
i wont bother watch this again but if you dont nothing better to do so this would be nice 3 hours hardcore reunion but dont wait this be another One night stand.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Aug 9, 2010 17:14:29 GMT -5
Were they chanting f*ck you Vince, at the end?
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 9, 2010 17:15:05 GMT -5
Were they chanting f*ck you Vince, at the end? yupperuni
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Post by jfinnomore on Aug 9, 2010 18:47:21 GMT -5
Were they chanting f*ck you Vince, at the end? sure were, little did they know, Vince doesn't even waste his time watching TNA PPV's.
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Post by K5 on Aug 9, 2010 18:48:03 GMT -5
Also, I can't believe this hasn't been brought up earlier (at least not to my knowledge), but am I the only one who found it in really, REALLY bad taste that Tommy Dreamer's two little girls were sitting front row at a show meant for adults? Not to mention the fact that their father was getting beaten up and bloodied right in front of them. Do they have any idea how traumatizing that can be? Who the hell thought it was a good idea to bring two little girls to a show like this? And Dixie was sitting right next to them, unbelievable. Beulah and Dreamer are terrible, TERRIBLE parents for allowing their little girls to be there. I thought it was ridiculous and completely in poor taste. I could agree, but then you would have to say the same about Foley ala "Beyond The Mat" as his two kids watched a I Quit match at the Royal Rumble. i would definetly say the same about foley - couldn't believe that kind of behaviour.
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Post by James Hetfield on Aug 9, 2010 18:54:47 GMT -5
If you didn't enjoy this show - then you probably weren't a fan of the original ECW. Of course the show had its good(Scorpio/CW, Dreamer/Raven, RVD/Sabu, Dudley fun), its bad (the lighting even though they were trying to recreate the old ECW), and its ugly (Pitbull # 1 promos).... but so does every show. But to me, someone who grew up with ECW, the PPV was extremely enjoyable to watch. I thought MitB was a very good PPV so I will not compare the two. But this PPV was so much more enjoyable than Fatal Four Way, even in a wrestling manner. As far as botched spots, etc.- As a lot of earlier posters mentioned, the real ECW had all kinds of mess-ups, i.e. New Jack waiting 3 minutes for Gertner to get up and get the guitar shot... it's just how these spots work. It isn't because they are all old... it was just how ECW always was. The show was nostalgic... and I think Tommy did the absolute best with what he had. I never thought I would see 2 Cold Scorpio again- and I did, and damn I am happy I did. I never thought I would see Fonzie hold up a chair for an RVD chair-kick ever again, but I did.... etc, etc. As an original ECW fan, this show delivered and I am glad I purchased it.... I enjoyed 95% percent of it and seeing the old guys back together was awesome. And it was great that Sandman wasn't in a match- his part was perfect for what he can do. As was everyone's part it seemed. Tommy and whoever else put the show together knew everyone capabilities and used them as best as possible. I was concerned(and didn't want the ECW guys to put on an embarassing show) that the PPV would be an absolute train-wreck, but it was far from it! I have been to over 100 ECW shows (including the last 2 PPVs and the back-to-back reunion shows in 2005) and started watching it in 1996 when it came on at 2am on Saturday mornings, so I consider myself a real fan. That show was NOT ECW authentic. No cursing, fake fans, sh*tty atmosphere, sh*tty lights and one match with blood. Some of the matches were OKAY, but the PPV as a whole was just pointless as hell. Why have New Jack come out and not do a dive? And why have the Gangstas hug the Dudleys after they beat the out of them? Why have those dumbass promos with the TNA guys saying what we already heard from Forever Hardcore and Rise & Fall of ECW? The whole thing was just pointless and served NO purpose other than to give Dixie a little bit of praise for letting them do this. Vince McMahon spent his money and put on 2 REAL authentic shows in 2005 and 2006 and was never praised during the live show. There were no "surprises" like Dixie and Dreamer said and the arena was filled with fake fans and was NOT "transformed". If anything, they SHOULD of had the show at the ECW arena and NOT the iMPACT zone.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Aug 9, 2010 19:30:15 GMT -5
Were they chanting f*ck you Vince, at the end? sure were, little did they know, Vince doesn't even waste his time watching TNA PPV's. Nor does he care what these people have to say, LOL!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2010 19:51:14 GMT -5
Vince McMahon spent his money and put on 2 REAL authentic shows in 2005 and 2006 and was never praised during the live show. Yes, nothing says an "authentic ECW" show like JBL, Carlito, Matt Morgan, Eric Bischoff, Jonathan Coachman, Christian, Tyson Tomko, Snitsky, La Resistance and William Regal, with matches featuring Jerry Lawler, Kurt Angle, Randy Orton, Edge, Lita, and John Cena. ECDUB! ECDUB! ECDUB!
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Aug 9, 2010 19:59:04 GMT -5
Vince McMahon spent his money and put on 2 REAL authentic shows in 2005 and 2006 and was never praised during the live show. Yes, nothing says an "authentic ECW" show like JBL, Carlito, Matt Morgan, Eric Bischoff, Jonathan Coachman, Christian, Tyson Tomko, Snitsky, La Resistance and William Regal, with matches featuring Jerry Lawler, Kurt Angle, Randy Orton, Edge, Lita, and John Cena. ECDUB! ECDUB! ECDUB! The WWE's version of ECW was way better than TNA's.
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Post by James Hetfield on Aug 9, 2010 20:26:36 GMT -5
Vince McMahon spent his money and put on 2 REAL authentic shows in 2005 and 2006 and was never praised during the live show. Yes, nothing says an "authentic ECW" show like JBL, Carlito, Matt Morgan, Eric Bischoff, Jonathan Coachman, Christian, Tyson Tomko, Snitsky, La Resistance and William Regal, with matches featuring Jerry Lawler, Kurt Angle, Randy Orton, Edge, Lita, and John Cena. ECDUB! ECDUB! ECDUB! It served a purpose, you dumb sh*t. They were trying to get the show to not happen and they were "Invading" and played a very small part in the show. They were there for half the event. Even so, the production WAS ECW. Had the real crowd, had killer matches and a good production overall. Orton vs. Angle was an okay match, and the crowd loved it, as was Edge/Foley vs. Funk/Dreamer. Oh, and Lawler was in ECW and played a huge part in the WWF invasion.
Know what I find funny? How TNA was very against Team 3D being used in the Hardcore Homecoming show/DVD, and now they do this. Hilarious.
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