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Post by slappy on Jul 29, 2010 22:58:29 GMT -5
Boycotting your local Target over something like this is about as effective as not buying a candy bar from your local BP franchise. I have boycotted buying anything from BP as well. |
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jul 29, 2010 23:07:10 GMT -5
Boycotting your local Target over something like this is about as effective as not buying a candy bar from your local BP franchise. I have boycotted buying anything from BP as well. Which means they won't be able to pay for the cleanup, which means it'll fall on the taxpayers. |
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Post by slappy on Jul 29, 2010 23:10:07 GMT -5
I have boycotted buying anything from BP as well. Which means they won't be able to pay for the cleanup, which means it'll fall on the taxpayers. No they'll pay for it and if they have to go under doing so, so be it. |
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Post by sean™ on Jul 30, 2010 8:45:00 GMT -5
There is absolutely nothing so far that has stated directly that Target, as a company, supports the killing of Gays and Lesbians. Everything so far is just assumptions based off of the donation from one entity to another.
Target donated money to MF, because of their main cause. MF put together ads for Tom Emmer because their main cause is a shared cause with Emmer.
The fact that Emmer can be linked to an association that supports the killing of Gays and Lesbians does not directly mean that MF, nor Target supports that. Jump to all the conclusions you want, but all you're doing is making an assumption.
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Post by BulletV1 on Jul 30, 2010 8:58:51 GMT -5
another thing that might shock us. You all know of those salvation army bellringers in the front of the store? Target doesn't allow them do it in front of there ! That was to prevent a lawsuit mostly. Because if they let one group solicit in front of the store they have to let every group do so or they go crying discrimination now-a-days. |
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jul 30, 2010 13:42:43 GMT -5
Which means they won't be able to pay for the cleanup, which means it'll fall on the taxpayers. No they'll pay for it and if they have to go under doing so, so be it. They won't go under. That would be  ing intellectually- disabled. I understand hurting them in the cleanup, but deliberately putting one of the biggest corporations in the world under would be madness. So you support the killing of gays and lesbians?  Just because he's shopping at a store, doesn't mean he supports the killing of homosexuals. Its just buying some food, not some major political statement. |
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Jul 31, 2010 0:50:56 GMT -5
 This isn't going to stop me from shopping there. |
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Post by slappy on Jul 31, 2010 1:06:52 GMT -5
If there was a store that contributed to someone who wanted to kill white people, you'd be outraged and would boycott it.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Jul 31, 2010 1:19:14 GMT -5
If there was a store that contributed to someone who wanted to kill white people, you'd be outraged and would boycott it. I don't understand, how can they legally kill gays and lesbians? I don't think Target supports the killing of homosexuals. I really find that hard to believe, maybe your just kind of blowing this out of proportion. IDK, I just don't see how Target or whoever Target is supporting could get away with killing homosexuals. |
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Post by slappy on Jul 31, 2010 1:23:10 GMT -5
If there was a store that contributed to someone who wanted to kill white people, you'd be outraged and would boycott it. I don't understand, how can they legally kill gays and lesbians? I don't think Target supports the killing of homosexuals. I really find that hard to believe, maybe your just kind of blowing this out of proportion. IDK, I just don't see how Target or whoever Target is supporting could get away with killing homosexuals. For instance, they could support it by supporting Iranian law that says gays can be killed. Or many African nations. They can support those groups. |
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Jul 31, 2010 1:27:13 GMT -5
I don't understand, how can they legally kill gays and lesbians? I don't think Target supports the killing of homosexuals. I really find that hard to believe, maybe your just kind of blowing this out of proportion. IDK, I just don't see how Target or whoever Target is supporting could get away with killing homosexuals. For instance, they could support it by supporting Iranian law that says gays can be killed. Or many African nations. They can support those groups. But how can they get away with this in America? |
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Post by slappy on Jul 31, 2010 1:28:58 GMT -5
For instance, they could support it by supporting Iranian law that says gays can be killed. Or many African nations. They can support those groups. But how can they get away with this in America? You are legally allowed to claim "gay panic" as your defense in killing gay people. Like they were hitting on you or you felt threatened by their actions and you kill them, you claim "gay panic" and the jury could always side with them. |
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Post by Thick Justice on Jul 31, 2010 1:29:34 GMT -5
I will still wish too go shopping at target. They made a donation too a company that helps a business man who supposedly supports this bad thing. How do we know for sure emmer even knew the band did. How do we even know for sure it does? How do we know the company knew about emmer's beliefs if those are his beliefs? I mean seriously I doubt a company would demand too know every single belief and detail about a candidate. I doubt Target would want too know every single detail about every single person that there donations go too.
I mean thats like saying you won't donate money too underpriviledged children charities because one of the children may be racist against white people and wish too kill them. They I am sure have dozens if not hundreds of people they support. Just because 1 of them people supports a band that is in support of hate crimes doesn't mean that Target supports them also. Too think so would be crazy.
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Post by slappy on Jul 31, 2010 1:35:56 GMT -5
If I'm going to donate my money, I'm for sure going to check out what they support and what they don't. I'm not going to blindly donate my money.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Jul 31, 2010 1:41:17 GMT -5
But how can they get away with this in America? You are legally allowed to claim "gay panic" as your defense in killing gay people. Like they were hitting on you or you felt threatened by their actions and you kill them, you claim "gay panic" and the jury could always side with them. Yeah, but killing someone because they're gay, wouldn't that be considered a hate crime. I mean you can't just kill someone because they were hitting on you and if you did I'm pretty sure you wouldn't get away with it. |
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Post by slappy on Jul 31, 2010 1:49:10 GMT -5
You are legally allowed to claim "gay panic" as your defense in killing gay people. Like they were hitting on you or you felt threatened by their actions and you kill them, you claim "gay panic" and the jury could always side with them. Yeah, but killing someone because they're gay, wouldn't that be considered a hate crime. I mean you can't just kill someone because they were hitting on you and if you did I'm pretty sure you wouldn't get away with it. With the passage of the Matthew Shepard Act, killing or harming a gay person because they are gay is considered a hate crime. Look at the Larry King case, the boy who killed him is claiming gay panic because Larry supposedly hit on him. |
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Jul 31, 2010 1:57:15 GMT -5
Yeah, but killing someone because they're gay, wouldn't that be considered a hate crime. I mean you can't just kill someone because they were hitting on you and if you did I'm pretty sure you wouldn't get away with it. With the passage of the Matthew Shepard Act, killing or harming a gay person because they are gay is considered a hate crime. Look at the Larry King case, the boy who killed him is claiming gay panic because Larry supposedly hit on him. If a person kills someone because they were being hit on by someone of the same sex, then they are clearly mentally unstable. If another guy hit on me, I would never kill him, it wouldn't even bother me, I'd just be like sorry, I'm not into dudes. Hell, I'd even probably offer my friendship. If a person kills a homosexual and gets away with it because they claim this "gay panic" business, then that's really ed up. It's not right for someone to take another's life because of something so stupid and then get away with it. Anyone who is capable of murdering someone so easily does not belong with the rest of normal society. |
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Post by slappy on Jul 31, 2010 2:49:11 GMT -5
With the passage of the Matthew Shepard Act, killing or harming a gay person because they are gay is considered a hate crime. Look at the Larry King case, the boy who killed him is claiming gay panic because Larry supposedly hit on him. If a person kills someone because they were being hit on by someone of the same sex, then they are clearly mentally unstable. If another guy hit on me, I would never kill him, it wouldn't even bother me, I'd just be like sorry, I'm not into dudes. Hell, I'd even probably offer my friendship. If a person kills a homosexual and gets away with it because they claim this "gay panic" business, then that's really ed up. It's not right for someone to take another's life because of something so stupid and then get away with it. Anyone who is capable of murdering someone so easily does not belong with the rest of normal society. But people do get away with it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2010 3:01:32 GMT -5
Maybe the owner of the Target franchise supports this but I am sure the employee's don't so I am still shopping there.
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Post by miserere on Jul 31, 2010 3:31:11 GMT -5
If I'm going to donate my money, I'm for sure going to check out what they support and what they don't. I'm not going to blindly donate my money. There is no way you can agree with everything one person believes and/or supports, so why ever donate your money? Say I want to donate some of my paycheck to the American Cancer Society, a huge group with a very good primary objective. Now, let's say one staffer out of the hundreds that make up the organization doesn't like black people. I like black people. Should I go out of my way to cancel my check because one single man or woman feels differently? Bear in mind this money will not go toward the slaughter or demeaning of said black people, but cancer research. My point is, Slappy, you can't oppose an entire corporation because of one person. The odds that you disagree with what one of those people supports or doesn't support are astronomical. It's unfair to fault every other person associated with Target because you disagree with the actions of one guy. Like, my grandpa didn't like blacks -- and I hate to go back to that example, but it's a good one. Should every black person I want to make friends with boycott or petition my friendship because of something out of my control? Am I to be punished because of something someone associated with me believes? Don't be silly. |
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