King of Harts
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Post by King of Harts on Aug 21, 2018 7:07:03 GMT -5
Ha! So, it turns out the second tag belt (which, to my own discredit, I spent 20 years not knowing existed) made its way out of the box at some point too.
I'm having a hard time being let down, to be honest. The last four BCA pieces I've purchased (these two sets, the Blue Blazer, and Diesel) have been the first things I've ever purchased to be displayed as packaged, so these little drawbacks just aren't getting me down in the least. Still $5/figure. ::ShrugEmoji::
EDIT: The seller just listed a ton of loose figures and accessories, and it seems that the extra tag belt made its way into a box full of belts. He's got a couple of loose items I'd like to grab anyway, so I'm going to have him bring the belts for me to pick through and see if I can't complete the set that way. Having finally met the guy, I have absolutely no reason to believe that any of this is anything more than a very simple, human matter of oversight, so I figure I can toss him a bit more business and tidy things up for myself in the process.
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Post by Artie Kendall on Aug 21, 2018 17:34:42 GMT -5
Does anyone have knowledge of how the Superstar Series 1 came to be and how those six were chosen?
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Post by Chicago on Aug 22, 2018 1:42:23 GMT -5
Does anyone have knowledge of how the Superstar Series 1 came to be and how those six were chosen? That's a great question. I don't know exactly what went into the process of selecting those names, but I would have to assume Titan Sports/WWF requested them all. The two sides entered into a licensing agreement on or about October 24, 1995. Word of the first lineup was out online via Ringside Collectibles on December 9, 1995. Prototypes of all six figures were revealed at Toy Fair in February 1996. What's amazing about all of it to me is the limited window of time that Jakks had reference material on the Goldust character; the vignettes began in August 1995, but Goldust didn't have a match until In Your House 4 in October 1995. Superstars Series 1 started showing up in most stores by June 1996. It's an impressive turnaround time, to say the least.
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King of Harts
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Post by King of Harts on Aug 22, 2018 8:36:22 GMT -5
Does anyone have knowledge of how the Superstar Series 1 came to be and how those six were chosen? That's a great question. I don't know exactly what went into the process of selecting those names, but I would have to assume Titan Sports/WWF requested them all. The two sides entered into a licensing agreement on or about October 24, 1995. Word of the first lineup was out online via Ringside Collectibles on December 9, 1995. Prototypes of all six figures were revealed at Toy Fair in February 1996. What's amazing about all of it to me is the limited window of time that Jakks had reference material on the Goldust character; the vignettes began in August 1995, but Goldust didn't have a match until In Your House 4 in October 1995. Superstars Series 1 started showing up in most stores by June 1996. It's an impressive turnaround time, to say the least. Using that loose sort of timeline, it speaks to an impressive bit of planning on their part, assuming intention and a foreknowledge of when these things would debut/drop. If you grab the closest major (non-IYH) PPV to the prototype reveal at Toy Fair, all six names are featured super prominently in comparison to the sort of mish-mash booking typical of the time leading up to that point. Undertaker, Bret Hart, Razor Ramon, and Goldust all featured in title matches that night, the former two competing for the World title and the latter two trading off the Intercontinental. Shawn Michaels won the Royal Rumble that night, and he did so by eliminating Diesel to claim victory. If you fancy those three matches the "marquee" of the night (and looking at the undercard in the context of the time, why wouldn't you), that's just stellar marketing right there.
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Post by Artie Kendall on Aug 22, 2018 9:33:25 GMT -5
Does anyone have knowledge of how the Superstar Series 1 came to be and how those six were chosen? That's a great question. I don't know exactly what went into the process of selecting those names, but I would have to assume Titan Sports/WWF requested them all. The two sides entered into a licensing agreement on or about October 24, 1995. Word of the first lineup was out online via Ringside Collectibles on December 9, 1995. Prototypes of all six figures were revealed at Toy Fair in February 1996. What's amazing about all of it to me is the limited window of time that Jakks had reference material on the Goldust character; the vignettes began in August 1995, but Goldust didn't have a match until In Your House 4 in October 1995. Superstars Series 1 started showing up in most stores by June 1996. It's an impressive turnaround time, to say the least. I've always used Goldust as the factor to determine about when they were chosen. I never knew when the prototypes were shown. The WWF output between 93-96 has always fascinated me. If you look at the Bend Ems Series 1 and the Jakks Superstars series 1, they are close even though Bend Ems were in 94. The fact that Diesel was in WWF Raw video game but not Wrestlemania the Arcade Game was always interesting as well. But given that time frame for the Jakks, I wonder how close we were to getting someone like Dean Douglas in series 1. And had it gone forward with release, three out of the six would have no longer been with the company that year they came out. Douglas was finished with the company by the end of 95 but I would imagine was hot at the time WWF and Jakks were in talks about a series 1.
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vampiro666
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Post by vampiro666 on Aug 22, 2018 10:20:14 GMT -5
I don't know how true it is but i've also heard before back then that when the line first started that the 1-2-3 kid mable Hakushi and Duke The Dumpster Droese was supposed to have figures made of them in the first few series but they was scrapped and that's why we got the shawn and bret repaints and re-releases in the beginning and that the one's we got in series 2 of them actually was scheduled to be exclusive to the survivor series boxset only along with warrior
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FUSamBaker
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Post by FUSamBaker on Aug 22, 2018 18:27:05 GMT -5
I don't know how true it is but i've also heard before back then that when the line first started that the 1-2-3 kid mable Hakushi and Duke The Dumpster Droese was supposed to have figures made of them in the first few series but they was scrapped and that's why we got the shawn and bret repaints and re-releases in the beginning and that the one's we got in series 2 of them actually was scheduled to be exclusive to the survivor series boxset only along with warrior That would be an epic series. I donât find any BCAs worth more than $5-$10. But for some reason Iâd see these being short packaged and worth a bit more than the others.
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Post by Chicago on Aug 22, 2018 21:03:03 GMT -5
Using that loose sort of timeline, it speaks to an impressive bit of planning on their part, assuming intention and a foreknowledge of when these things would debut/drop. If you grab the closest major (non-IYH) PPV to the prototype reveal at Toy Fair, all six names are featured super prominently in comparison to the sort of mish-mash booking typical of the time leading up to that point. Undertaker, Bret Hart, Razor Ramon, and Goldust all featured in title matches that night, the former two competing for the World title and the latter two trading off the Intercontinental. Shawn Michaels won the Royal Rumble that night, and he did so by eliminating Diesel to claim victory. If you fancy those three matches the "marquee" of the night (and looking at the undercard in the context of the time, why wouldn't you), that's just stellar marketing right there. Absolutely. Those were six prominent names in 1995-96 WWF. I don't think Jakks could have done any better with their selections. It's one of the many reasons why people still talk about that series to this day. I've always used Goldust as the factor to determine about when they were chosen. I never knew when the prototypes were shown. The WWF output between 93-96 has always fascinated me. If you look at the Bend Ems Series 1 and the Jakks Superstars series 1, they are close even though Bend Ems were in 94. The fact that Diesel was in WWF Raw video game but not Wrestlemania the Arcade Game was always interesting as well. But given that time frame for the Jakks, I wonder how close we were to getting someone like Dean Douglas in series 1. And had it gone forward with release, three out of the six would have no longer been with the company that year they came out. Douglas was finished with the company by the end of 95 but I would imagine was hot at the time WWF and Jakks were in talks about a series 1. There's no reason Dean Douglas couldn't have been featured in Superstars Series 1 had WWF/Jakks wanted to make it happen. Like you said, his character was on TV the most in the latter half of 1995, and there wasn't a better time for consideration than within those six months. I don't know how much merchandise Douglas had at the time leading up to his release, but I'd wager a guess that he was not a priority for them. By the fall of 1995, WWF had big plans for Goldust, Vader, and Ahmed Johnson; if two of those three didn't make the cut in the first series, I doubt Douglas would have fared much better. I don't know how true it is but i've also heard before back then that when the line first started that the 1-2-3 kid mable Hakushi and Duke The Dumpster Droese was supposed to have figures made of them in the first few series but they was scrapped and that's why we got the shawn and bret repaints and re-releases in the beginning and that the one's we got in series 2 of them actually was scheduled to be exclusive to the survivor series boxset only along with warrior It's possible, depending on how far back Jakks was planning the first series. Just like any toy line, placeholder names can be thrown out there without any actual work being done on them. Proposed lineups are subject to change and all of that, but I don't know how much stock I'd put into Shawn and Bret being last minute replacements. Those two and Undertaker were always going to get preference over the rest of the roster because they sold well and were cheaper to produce with existing molds; the extra tooling that would be required of Mabel or Droese wouldn't be worth it. The Jakks line may never have survived if it was boggled down in the early days with that much mid-card talent rotting on the pegs.
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Post by Chicago on Aug 24, 2018 15:54:40 GMT -5
I'm assuming this came from rvd3434's collection. Great stuff all around. Check out Zack's recent Instagram Story:
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Aug 24, 2018 16:18:45 GMT -5
Ryder will never have my Alien Wrestling Federation figures
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zappa2510
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Post by zappa2510 on Aug 27, 2018 14:36:02 GMT -5
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Post by Chicago on Aug 31, 2018 10:08:35 GMT -5
zappa2510 Great work! I like the simple, clean look of the paint pens. There's a lot of potential in using the Retro heads on BCA figure bodies. I look forward to seeing more from you, whenever you've got any new updates to share.
I don't personally count it since it's just Hardcore and is labeled as such, but they did use Crash Holly's portrait for this BCA figure... Check out this custom BCA Crash Holly figure from Instagram user therealworldchampion: Also, sign me up for these BCA figure conversions of Slammers Series 2 Brian Pillman and Patriot:
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FUSamBaker
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Post by FUSamBaker on Aug 31, 2018 16:29:59 GMT -5
Loving the Crash custom but the Patriot is AMAZING đ. I always wanted him as a kid but the Slammer action really made a big deal to me. I didnât want to grab him because of it tbh. Just like Taka and Dude Love. I donât think we had regular BCAs of them either did we? Even when Taka was packed with Brian Christopher, wasnât it just a repacked Slammer Taka?
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Post by Chicago on Aug 31, 2018 18:14:09 GMT -5
Just like Taka and Dude Love. I donât think we had regular BCAs of them either did we? No, we didn't get those. Kane was the exception from that series, although it still took Jakks the better part of a year to release a non-Slammers Kane in one-sleeve attire. Even when Taka was packed with Brian Christopher, wasnât it just a repacked Slammer Taka? Yep. Same ol' Taka. It would have been great if there were regular versions made similar to those custom figures, but I think the product changing as much as it did between mid-'97 and early '99 prevented that from happening.
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FUSamBaker
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Post by FUSamBaker on Aug 31, 2018 18:20:15 GMT -5
Well that is a bummer! I still own Taka but man itâs just a weird figure tbh.
Speaking of the Patriot, how did he get a figure?!?!? I started watching Raw in â98 I believe. I canât remember him whatsoever. He kinda reminds me of a Ken Patera, Colin Delaney, or a James Ellsworth. They were there but did they warrant a figure? Lol
*edit* I meant to say Ted Arcidi instead of Ken Patera lol
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Aug 31, 2018 18:44:11 GMT -5
Well that is a bummer! I still own Taka but man itâs just a weird figure tbh. Speaking of the Patriot, how did he get a figure?!?!? I started watching Raw in â98 I believe. I canât remember him whatsoever. He kinda reminds me of a Ken Patera, Colin Delaney, or a James Ellsworth. They were there but did they warrant a figure? Lol the patriot was in a feud with bret hart for a bit. i'd say he was deserving of a figure
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Post by K5 on Sept 2, 2018 22:59:00 GMT -5
Well that is a bummer! I still own Taka but man itâs just a weird figure tbh. Speaking of the Patriot, how did he get a figure?!?!? I started watching Raw in â98 I believe. I canât remember him whatsoever. He kinda reminds me of a Ken Patera, Colin Delaney, or a James Ellsworth. They were there but did they warrant a figure? Lol *edit* I meant to say Ted Arcidi instead of Ken Patera lol it may have been another one of those figures for future plans that didnât pan out - like dr deathâs figure. he was involved in major feuds until torn triceps forced him into retirement.
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Post by Chicago on Sept 3, 2018 12:09:44 GMT -5
Speaking of the Patriot, how did he get a figure?!?!? I started watching Raw in â98 I believe. I canât remember him whatsoever. He kinda reminds me of a Ken Patera, Colin Delaney, or a James Ellsworth. They were there but did they warrant a figure? Lol *edit* I meant to say Ted Arcidi instead of Ken Patera lol I think he warranted a figure (certainly more than Dr. Death ). Del Wilkes/The Patriot was brought in at the perfect time to defend the USA against Bret Hart and The Hart Foundation. He wasn't the perfect foil by any means â as this was the dawning of a new era led by anti-heroes such as Austin and DX â but he did have credibility in the wrestling industry, and an impressive physique to boot. His run didn't last very long due to the triceps injury, but he made a couple PPV appearances and worked some of the very best talent WWF had to offer in a span of roughly four months. Here's a look back at an early glimpse of the Slammers Series 2 Patriot figure on display at Toy Fair 1998:
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Post by FUSamBaker on Sept 3, 2018 21:11:42 GMT -5
Woah those STOMP figures look way cooler than they came out! The color schemes are vibrant. Especially Owen Hart, his STOMP figure was so bland! Wonder what made Jakks switch up to a more toned down palette. Especially since that series was over the top anyway.
I actually always liked the STOMP series. Yeah they were far from wrestling but you could remove most of the outlandish parts. While I like Mattelâs Monster and Zombie series, theyâre weird and you canât take away part to make them look normal. I think thatâs why the STOMP series is a little more acceptable in our collectorâs eyes.
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King of Harts
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Post by King of Harts on Sept 4, 2018 15:42:53 GMT -5
What I wouldn't have given back in '97-'99 for a Dude Love figure with those arms versus what we ultimately got.
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