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Post by spamdfms101 on Sept 27, 2010 11:59:56 GMT -5
Let's say you're down 69-70 in a basketball game. There is .6 seconds left on the clock. You inbound the ball and your teammate hits a shot making it 71-70. The buzzer sounds. That team that lost can't argue that it was only 1 point and should be overturned... Hilariously enough, I think a mentally disabled person is more likely to be able to score 69 points in a basketball game than they are to understand a life insurance policy, plot, and execute a murder. Very true. There was a kid with down syndrome at my old school and he was amazing at basketball. He could hit a shot from almost anywhere on the court.
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Post by slappy on Sept 27, 2010 16:40:40 GMT -5
Let's say you're down 69-70 in a basketball game. There is .6 seconds left on the clock. You inbound the ball and your teammate hits a shot making it 71-70. The buzzer sounds. That team that lost can't argue that it was only 1 point and should be overturned... That is the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 27, 2010 20:33:51 GMT -5
Let's say you're down 69-70 in a basketball game. There is .6 seconds left on the clock. You inbound the ball and your teammate hits a shot making it 71-70. The buzzer sounds. That team that lost can't argue that it was only 1 point and should be overturned... That is the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard. How? 70 is mentally intellectually- disabled, not 71. She was executed over 1 point in her IQ. You're arguing that she should not have been executed over 1 IQ point. And as for the "She had people who cared about her too" statement. Yeah, I'm sure she did. But once it came out that she was guilty of her crimes, I'm sure their stance was that whatever punishment she had coming to her, she brought upon herself. I can tell you, my family surely cares alot about me. But if I kill someone, they'd all be of the mindset that whatever punishment is handed down, I deserve every bit of it. And I'm fairly sure your family would be the same way.
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Post by slappy on Sept 27, 2010 20:57:28 GMT -5
Because killing someone is totally different than something pointless like basketball. Saving a life is more important than a basketball game.
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 28, 2010 4:53:30 GMT -5
That is the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard. The most ridiculous argument made in this thread is that a woman who plotted a murder to collect life insurance is mentally disabled and thus should not be executed. Preposterous. The basketball comparison is less ridiculous than that.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 28, 2010 6:54:26 GMT -5
Because killing someone is totally different than something pointless like basketball. Saving a life is more important than a basketball game. Did she save the lives of her husband and step-son? No. They were killed. She planned it, she wanted them dead. She deserved to die herself. Bottom line.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 28, 2010 8:22:13 GMT -5
Because killing someone is totally different than something pointless like basketball. Saving a life is more important than a basketball game. Was she thinking about how important it was to save a life while her husband too a shotgun to the face or was she thinking about it while she waited 45 mins to call anyone?
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Post by K5 on Sept 28, 2010 10:58:14 GMT -5
Because killing someone is totally different than something pointless like basketball. Saving a life is more important than a basketball game. Did she save the lives of her husband and step-son? No. They were killed. She planned it, she wanted them dead. She deserved to die herself. Bottom line. sorry pal, but you don't get the right to say what the bottom line is towards someone's life or their death. some of you people are so...typically american. lmao
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Sept 28, 2010 11:23:25 GMT -5
Did she save the lives of her husband and step-son? No. They were killed. She planned it, she wanted them dead. She deserved to die herself. Bottom line. sorry pal, but you don't get the right to say what the bottom line is towards someone's life or their death. some of you people are so...typically american. lmao She literally organized the murders of two people. I think she deserved to die as well. Someone who cares so little about the lives of two people that were so close to them, doesn't deserve the blessing of life.
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Post by K5 on Sept 28, 2010 11:35:54 GMT -5
somehow i don't think that fits with your religion to judge and condemn like that.
seriously, it baffles me how all of you justify murder. yes, she did an unforgivable and terrible act, this is not up for debate - but to kill those who kill? c'mon.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Sept 28, 2010 11:43:27 GMT -5
somehow i don't think that fits with your religion to judge and condemn like that. seriously, it baffles me how all of you justify murder. yes, she did an unforgivable and terrible act, this is not up for debate - but to kill those who kill? c'mon. I didn't condemn anyone. We've been over this before. If we're speaking in terms of my religion, only God can condemn anyone. I said that I BELIEVE that she deserved to die. It's not murder. What she organized was murder. What happened to her was justice. The Bible speaks of obeying the law and repecting those who are appointed to enforce it. Romans 13:1-5 (King James Version)
Romans 13 1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
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Post by K5 on Sept 28, 2010 15:45:21 GMT -5
either way, i really think that's bending it.
i simply don't see it as justice to murder her. i look at any that support such a notion as just as low a level as she, and laugh at the idea of a god supporting it.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Sept 28, 2010 15:55:18 GMT -5
either way, i really think that's bending it. i simply don't see it as justice to murder her. i look at any that support such a notion as just as low a level as she, and laugh at the idea of a god supporting it. Meh, believe and laugh at what you will. People paint God as this big beautiful smile in the sky, forgetting the fact that he's a just God as well. How messed up is it really? That someone shows such total disregaurd for human life, their right to live is taken away. How does that make me low? I didn't hire someone to shoot her in the face. You reep what you sow dude. I'm also finding it funny how you can laugh at my religion like it's nothing, but when someone talks down on smoking weed, you're all over them like you've never made fun of another's lifestyle.
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Post by K5 on Sept 28, 2010 16:01:16 GMT -5
i wasn't talking specifically to you. i just said my general thoughts and you respond, this is the third example of that.
and it's the fact that someone believes their thought is of such a high level that they have power over another's life to the degree of being able to take it that's not good. NO ONE has that power, and it's playing god in my opinion.
and lastly, it all depends on the validity of people's claims about marijuana in terms of my reaction. if someone is gonna try to say about garbage, i'm gonna say something about it. look through past religious threads, and you'll find i battle nonbelievers that say absolute ignorant trash just as much as i have battled you.
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Post by Oskanowski on Sept 28, 2010 16:10:16 GMT -5
How is this topic still going LMAO?! The 2012/Alien/UFO topics don't last this long
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Post by slappy on Sept 28, 2010 17:19:03 GMT -5
Because killing someone is totally different than something pointless like basketball. Saving a life is more important than a basketball game. Was she thinking about how important it was to save a life while her husband too a shotgun to the face or was she thinking about it while she waited 45 mins to call anyone? So we stoop to her level?
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 28, 2010 17:27:01 GMT -5
Was she thinking about how important it was to save a life while her husband too a shotgun to the face or was she thinking about it while she waited 45 mins to call anyone? So we stoop to her level? It's not stooping to her level! It's upholding a little thing called THE LAW! If you break the law, you DESERVE punishment. If you first hand take another's life from them, or organize to have someone's life taken from them, why do you deserve a life of your own? k5 wanted to argue the playing God card...she played God when she decided that her husband and step-son didn't need to live any longer. So the state of Virginia took her game and threw it back at her. And they're the bad guys?! Please.
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Post by slappy on Sept 28, 2010 17:32:10 GMT -5
So we stoop to her level? It's not stooping to her level! It's upholding a little thing called THE LAW! If you break the law, you DESERVE punishment. If you first hand take another's life from them, or organize to have someone's life taken from them, why do you deserve a life of your own? k5 wanted to argue the playing God card...she played God when she decided that her husband and step-son didn't need to live any longer. So the state of Virginia took her game and threw it back at her. And they're the bad guys?! Please. The law does not say she must be killed for her actions. It gives the option of death as punishment. I agree that she deserves some type of punishment, but not death. Should we rape those who rape?
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Post by gordon on Sept 28, 2010 17:39:15 GMT -5
It's not stooping to her level! It's upholding a little thing called THE LAW! If you break the law, you DESERVE punishment. If you first hand take another's life from them, or organize to have someone's life taken from them, why do you deserve a life of your own? k5 wanted to argue the playing God card...she played God when she decided that her husband and step-son didn't need to live any longer. So the state of Virginia took her game and threw it back at her. And they're the bad guys?! Please. The law does not say she must be killed for her actions. It gives the option of death as punishment. I agree that she deserves some type of punishment, but not death. Should we rape those who rape? Yes.
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Post by K5 on Sept 28, 2010 17:42:30 GMT -5
k5 wanted to argue the playing God card...she played God when she decided that her husband and step-son didn't need to live any longer. So the state of Virginia took her game and threw it back at her. And they're the bad guys?! Please. you're right, and she should definitely be punished. but to murder her, no matter what you say, is no better than what she did. the fact that you give your government the right to kill your fellow man if he doesn't follow the rules truly disturbs me.
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