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Post by sean™ on Oct 1, 2010 8:54:38 GMT -5
I'm no MMA coach, but given Cain's striking skills, I see Brock shooting in or pushing against the cage as soon as possible. Brock did very well against Couture against the cage, so I think Brock, if careful, could press Cain against the wall, and drag him down the ground. "Very well against Couture against the cage"? Not sure about that. Yeah, he took him down eventually, but Couture had the easiest time with Brock against the cage, even almost taking him down, but Lesnar grabbed the fence. Actually, Couture did get him on his ass, but Brock was able to get back up, and then turn that into another takedown. Brock - 2 Couture - 1 All I'm saying is that Brock is probably going to try putting the fight into situations where he can avoid Cain's punches. |
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Post by shenmue on Oct 1, 2010 14:15:12 GMT -5
I just see Lesnar at some stage in the fight getting Cain down and beating the crapout of him until he is out cold or the ref stops it.
I have to say this because i have a bet on Lesnar winning by stoppage lol , i think it could be a hard fight for Lesnar but Cain doesn't have the same power as Carwin so i can't see Lesnar being scared/cautious to get in close like he clearly was in the 1st round of the Carwin fight.
My prediction is 1st round or 2nd round stoppage for Lesnar.
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Post by sean™ on Oct 1, 2010 14:21:46 GMT -5
The problem with Cain isn't the power, but the speed.
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Post by s13driver on Oct 1, 2010 16:19:27 GMT -5
Sorry but if Shane Carwin wasn't able to finish Brock, then no heavyweight in the UFC will be able to do it. Cain is good, but he's not on Brock's level. Brock is going to take him down, easily I might add, and GnP the piss out of him until he taps due to strikes or the referee stops it. Either way, it's gonna be an easy night for Brock.
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Post by Sandy on Oct 1, 2010 17:29:16 GMT -5
easy fight for Brock? I dont know about that.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Oct 1, 2010 23:58:10 GMT -5
www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/ah-why-does-cain-look-like-hes-natural-185lber-im-worried-1371243/?
Anyway, Carwin only landed one SOLID shot and that was an Uppercut and it made Lesnar literally jump up and back and running from him for the rest of that round, all the other shots where arm shots had Carwin picked his shots Lesnar would of been knocked out and we would have a new champ. I feel rather confident in Cain, his Wrestling is just has good if not better than Lesnar's and he has good submissions so using those I feel he can survive the ground game DEPENDING on how fast Lesnar starts his GNP. So if Cain keeps it standing he has the Cardio and he has good striking, he may not have that on hit KO power like Carwin but Cain won't be swinging wildly like that he will pick his shots and hopefully TKO Lesnar around the Third or Fourth round. Velasquez is not a better wrestler than Lesnar. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 2, 2010 0:27:22 GMT -5
www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/ah-why-does-cain-look-like-hes-natural-185lber-im-worried-1371243/?
Anyway, Carwin only landed one SOLID shot and that was an Uppercut and it made Lesnar literally jump up and back and running from him for the rest of that round, all the other shots where arm shots had Carwin picked his shots Lesnar would of been knocked out and we would have a new champ. I feel rather confident in Cain, his Wrestling is just has good if not better than Lesnar's and he has good submissions so using those I feel he can survive the ground game DEPENDING on how fast Lesnar starts his GNP. So if Cain keeps it standing he has the Cardio and he has good striking, he may not have that on hit KO power like Carwin but Cain won't be swinging wildly like that he will pick his shots and hopefully TKO Lesnar around the Third or Fourth round. Velasquez is not a better wrestler than Lesnar. How? They are both pretty much the same as far as credentials go. Both are Division I NCAA wrestlers. |
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Post by PrideFcF on Oct 2, 2010 0:33:22 GMT -5
I'm guessing he's basing it purely on size/strength. While that's definitely a logical advantage in a wrestling match, you can't always dismiss the technique aspect.
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Post by ville on Oct 2, 2010 5:10:25 GMT -5
www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/ah-why-does-cain-look-like-hes-natural-185lber-im-worried-1371243/?
Anyway, Carwin only landed one SOLID shot and that was an Uppercut and it made Lesnar literally jump up and back and running from him for the rest of that round, all the other shots where arm shots had Carwin picked his shots Lesnar would of been knocked out and we would have a new champ. I feel rather confident in Cain, his Wrestling is just has good if not better than Lesnar's and he has good submissions so using those I feel he can survive the ground game DEPENDING on how fast Lesnar starts his GNP. So if Cain keeps it standing he has the Cardio and he has good striking, he may not have that on hit KO power like Carwin but Cain won't be swinging wildly like that he will pick his shots and hopefully TKO Lesnar around the Third or Fourth round. Velasquez is not a better wrestler than Lesnar. |
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Post by Mr. MMA on Oct 2, 2010 22:59:00 GMT -5
I just wanna see Lesnar lose, if I had to pick someone to do it it would be Carwin (already lost) or Cain. If thats all the size Cain has this close to the fight I don't see him getting past Brock's takedowns. He better get to bulking up.
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Post by otto on Oct 2, 2010 23:46:15 GMT -5
Well...black IS quite slimming... Sorry, I got nothing. He looks really undersized in that pic. I'm sure it's just a matter of coincidence in the case of this pic, but it's no secret that he's going to be at a drastic size disadvantage against Brock. On a similar note, Loyoto looks really different to me in these recent pics. I can't quite put my finger on it though. He's smiling. |
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Post by threehgame on Oct 7, 2010 7:53:36 GMT -5
After watching UFC Primetime/Countdown (whatever it is now) I believe Cain stands a better chance then I thought he did. Lesnar has a good skill set but he doesn't seem to be doing much work outside of it. He is in his gym, with his guys doing his work. Cain seems to be in his gym, with his guys, training for something he's never delt with before. All he has to overcome is the size and power which means he has to land a lot of hard shots early and make Lesnar pay for any and all takedown chances.
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Post by ville on Oct 7, 2010 10:01:45 GMT -5
Cain is a better wrestler, the ONLY thing he has on Cain is size, maybe speed. Carwin showed us Lesnar is afraid of getting it. Carwin only landed one solid shot and that was an Uppercut that made Brock jump and run. His chin is very overrated. I know Cain doesn't have the punching power Carwin does but he has the Cardio to land those shots and he will be picking his shots and not just swinging them like Carwin did. IMO Cain by TKO in the Fourth round.
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Post by sean™ on Oct 7, 2010 10:19:32 GMT -5
How do you figure that Cain is a better wrestler?
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Post by ville on Oct 7, 2010 10:48:00 GMT -5
How do you figure that Cain is a better wrestler? |
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Post by sean™ on Oct 7, 2010 11:04:50 GMT -5
Good credentials.
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 7, 2010 12:22:40 GMT -5
I consider them pretty much even on wrestling, anyway. None of that matters since I'm quite sure one of them will end up on their back.
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Post by Sandy on Oct 7, 2010 13:06:10 GMT -5
I am so pumped for this fight. I don't see Cain quitting...tapping...or curling up in a ball...If he loses he is going to get KO'd or submitted...and I don't see that happening either.
Brock looks like a beast. Hard to believe he went through the life threatening surgery that he did because he looks bigger than ever..
ughhh...I really don't know who is going to win.
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 7, 2010 13:18:57 GMT -5
Anyone catch episode one of the Primetime show? Beard Lesnar looks scary.
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Post by Overnight Sensation on Oct 7, 2010 15:11:29 GMT -5
scary with a horrible beard? LOL
Cain's speed and technique will win him this fight. its often said with striking its not how hard you can hit, its about getting hit in the right spot. and Cain knows how to hit that spot.
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