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Post by juicewinslow on Dec 29, 2010 5:12:51 GMT -5
"First name Cham, last name Paine! I went from the g-string to the wrestling ring!!" lmao. I used to watch him wrestle here locally back in the day. He was hilarious.
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Post by SodaGuy on Dec 29, 2010 18:24:41 GMT -5
The drug trafficking charge is because of the AMOUNT Jeff Hardy had. That's how it works, when you have up to so much of one drug in your poss. , you can be charged with drug trafficking and intent to sell/distribute.
It's not a "bogus" charge nor one they just made up because he's famous.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 29, 2010 18:29:00 GMT -5
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Post by Gazza on Dec 29, 2010 18:37:16 GMT -5
Probably because you don't understand the simple fact it's not bogus.
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Post by SodaGuy on Dec 29, 2010 18:38:08 GMT -5
Well, stop calling the charge bogus because it's not bogus, it has ground to stand on. |
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Post by Gazza on Dec 29, 2010 19:24:55 GMT -5
Well, stop calling the charge bogus because it's not bogus, it has ground to stand on. This. Plus, You don't know for a fact Jeff wasn't selling them... |
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Post by theryanegan on Dec 29, 2010 19:31:42 GMT -5
Exactly. CM wants to tell everyone to use common sense to see that the charge is bogus, when he himself needs to use common sense to see that it is a proper charge.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 29, 2010 20:03:32 GMT -5
I've already explained why its  ing bogus. Just like the singing in the bathtub or having too many women living in your home. Just b/c its the law doesnt mean its right. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 29, 2010 20:04:02 GMT -5
Are you seriously going to sit there, and say that law enforcement officials should be allowed to use their judgment based on whether the person is a celebrity or not? And yes, if President Clinton was busted with that many drugs, I would fully support the fact that he would be charged with drug trafficking charges...because it is the law. There is no room for "Oh, well, he's a celebrity. We shouldn't charge him with drug trafficking because he's famous." Plus, how do they know that Hardy isn't selling drugs on the side? You want to call my examples into question, yet you sit there and say that the police should use their judgment on who gets charged with what? Wow...just...wow. No I am gonna sit here and say law enforcement should use their judgment based on the facts. Jeff Hardy being a celeb or Bill Clinton being a former President and the current positions they are in add up to not drug trafficking. You fully support the law? In PA, you cant have more than 16 women living in the same house. Otherwise you are charged with running a brothel. So should the guy who's wife, 8 daughters, mother, mother in law, and his wife's 6 sisters be arrested for running a brothel? In PA, any motorist driving along a country road at night must stop every mile and send up a rocket signal, wait 10 minutes for the road to be cleared of livestock, and continue. Should be he arrested for reckless driving? In PA, you are not allowed to sing in a bathtub. Should I be arrested for violation of noise ordinances? Common ing sense. Not just police, but everyone should use common sense. In case you failed to read. |
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Post by Gazza on Dec 29, 2010 20:09:59 GMT -5
Once again, You have no proof that Jeff wasn't dealing, or intending to deal. Therefor it isn't bogus.
Plus, if he is indeed pleading Guilty, It's hard to say that its bogus..
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Post by slappy on Dec 29, 2010 20:13:32 GMT -5
They have no proof he WAS dealing. They just assume because of the amount he had that he was, but they cannot prove that he was going to deal any.
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Post by Gazza on Dec 29, 2010 20:14:43 GMT -5
They have no proof he WAS dealing. They just assume because of the amount he had that he was, but they cannot prove that he was going to deal any. I know that, That's why when it came to court he probably wouldn't be charged with dealing, because they was no proof. Unless he admits to it of-course, which by pleading guilty he kinda is. But CM isn't a cop/lawyer on the case, so he doesn't know the full details. To come out and say the charge is bogus, just because he's a fan of Jeff, is stupid. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 29, 2010 20:27:10 GMT -5
Once again, You have no proof that Jeff wasn't dealing, or intending to deal. Therefor it isn't bogus. Plus, if he is indeed pleading Guilty, It's hard to say that its bogus.. If Jeff Hardy pleads guilty to drug dealing, I'll chop my ing nuts off. They have no proof he WAS dealing. They just assume because of the amount he had that he was, but they cannot prove that he was going to deal any. I know that, That's why when it came to court he probably wouldn't be charged with dealing, because they was no proof. Unless he admits to it of-course, which by pleading guilty he kinda is. But CM isn't a cop/lawyer on the case, so he doesn't know the full details. To come out and say the charge is bogus, just because he's a fan of Jeff, is stupid. I'm not a cop or lawyer on the case?!?!?! News to me.  And neither are you or anyone else in this thread. I've explained why the charge is bogus. I even gave examples of other bogus laws and quoted myself so it would be on this page for you to read. Either you dont care to read it or you just want to live in this little fantasy world. Bogus charge doesnt mean its not the law. Bogus charge means its not based on common sense. |
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Post by slappy on Dec 29, 2010 20:32:37 GMT -5
They have no proof he WAS dealing. They just assume because of the amount he had that he was, but they cannot prove that he was going to deal any. I know that, That's why when it came to court he probably wouldn't be charged with dealing, because they was no proof. Unless he admits to it of-course, which by pleading guilty he kinda is. But CM isn't a cop/lawyer on the case, so he doesn't know the full details. To come out and say the charge is bogus, just because he's a fan of Jeff, is stupid. We don't know what he is pleading guilty to. They may drop the intent to sell charge in exchange for his guilty plea. I have never been a fan of Jeff Hardy, never. I think the charge is ridiculous. |
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Post by wccwfan4life on Dec 29, 2010 20:47:05 GMT -5
CM's biggest fault in this thread is banging his head againist the wall. This forum has alot of stupid, righteous, idiots. Using solid facts, intelligence, and common sense will not go over well here CM.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 29, 2010 21:04:55 GMT -5
CM's biggest fault in this thread is banging his head againist the wall. This forum has alot of stupid, righteous, idiots. Using solid facts, intelligence, and common sense will not go over well here CM. I know its just a message board. But I also know there are some people that you can have a discussion with, without it seeming like you are talking to a wall. And then we have others who just keep repeating the same ol, same ol. We all get it. Its been pointed out several times in the past 4 pages. They either choose to ignore what has been said or they refuse to try and see another's pov. |
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Post by Gazza on Dec 29, 2010 21:18:59 GMT -5
Once again, You have no proof that Jeff wasn't dealing, or intending to deal. Therefor it isn't bogus. Plus, if he is indeed pleading Guilty, It's hard to say that its bogus.. If Jeff Hardy pleads guilty to drug dealing, I'll chop my ing nuts off. I know that, That's why when it came to court he probably wouldn't be charged with dealing, because they was no proof. Unless he admits to it of-course, which by pleading guilty he kinda is. But CM isn't a cop/lawyer on the case, so he doesn't know the full details. To come out and say the charge is bogus, just because he's a fan of Jeff, is stupid. I'm not a cop or lawyer on the case?!?!?! News to me. And neither are you or anyone else in this thread. I've explained why the charge is bogus. I even gave examples of other bogus laws and quoted myself so it would be on this page for you to read. Either you dont care to read it or you just want to live in this little fantasy world. Bogus charge doesnt mean its not the law. Bogus charge means its not based on common sense. Yeah, because your opinions are always right. Nobody can go against your opinions without them having common sense or "living in a fantasy world". The reasons you state, aren't facts to why the charge is bogus. It's opinion. In my opinion the charge isn't bogus, but to you that's not right. I don't see how it isn't based on common sense. He had lots of drugs, as far as they see it, he could be dealing. It's the same for every other person in this world. If one person has enough to be for more than them, then they get charged with dealing/intent to supply. Then come to court it's dismissed because they is no evidence of it. It's the way the law works, even if you don't think its right thats how it works. It isn't bogus, it's the same for every other person in this world. So Jeff isn't an exception to it. One person shouldn't have the amount of drugs that Jeff had. So I don't see how you say its common sense. As far as they know, Jeff could be dealing. It's not like they can see all them drugs, look at Jeff and think "Oh, He clearly isn't dealing". Just because you think its common sense, because you don't think Jeff would deal. Doesn't mean everyone has to see it that way. |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Dec 29, 2010 22:49:31 GMT -5
The drug trafficking charge is because of the AMOUNT Jeff Hardy had. That's how it works, when you have up to so much of one drug in your poss. , you can be charged with drug trafficking and intent to sell/distribute. . That is true. I think it varies by state but the key word is "intent". If a person has X amount or multiple illegally obtained drugs, they can be charged with "intent to distribute", even without proof of drug deals. Often times, this is an area where the attorneys will strike a deal. It seems plausible that Hardy will plead guilty to one or more possession charge so he can have the distribution charge dropped. |
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Post by slappy on Dec 29, 2010 22:59:00 GMT -5
You can have 3 joints on you and that isn't enough to warrant an intent to sell charge, but you could still sell those 3.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 29, 2010 23:01:01 GMT -5
If Jeff Hardy pleads guilty to drug dealing, I'll chop my ing nuts off. I know that, That's why when it came to court he probably wouldn't be charged with dealing, because they was no proof. Unless he admits to it of-course, which by pleading guilty he kinda is. But CM isn't a cop/lawyer on the case, so he doesn't know the full details. To come out and say the charge is bogus, just because he's a fan of Jeff, is stupid. I'm not a cop or lawyer on the case?!?!?! News to me. And neither are you or anyone else in this thread. I've explained why the charge is bogus. I even gave examples of other bogus laws and quoted myself so it would be on this page for you to read. Either you dont care to read it or you just want to live in this little fantasy world. Bogus charge doesnt mean its not the law. Bogus charge means its not based on common sense. Yeah, because your opinions are always right. Nobody can go against your opinions without them having common sense or "living in a fantasy world". The reasons you state, aren't facts to why the charge is bogus. It's opinion. In my opinion the charge isn't bogus, but to you that's not right. I don't see how it isn't based on common sense. He had lots of drugs, as far as they see it, he could be dealing. It's the same for every other person in this world. If one person has enough to be for more than them, then they get charged with dealing/intent to supply. Then come to court it's dismissed because they is no evidence of it. It's the way the law works, even if you don't think its right thats how it works. It isn't bogus, it's the same for every other person in this world. So Jeff isn't an exception to it. One person shouldn't have the amount of drugs that Jeff had. So I don't see how you say its common sense. As far as they know, Jeff could be dealing. It's not like they can see all them drugs, look at Jeff and think "Oh, He clearly isn't dealing". Just because you think its common sense, because you don't think Jeff would deal. Doesn't mean everyone has to see it that way. 2 words....common sense. Bottom line. Guys like Jeff Hardy dont ing deal drugs. Same with Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton doesnt deal drugs. I dont care how much they find on him or at his home. Why would Jeff have that much in drugs? If you know anything about bumping in the ring, his restless leg syndrome, herniated discs and the kind of pain he lives in daily, much like other wrestlers.....then you would understand. If you really want to believe Jeff Hardy is a drug dealer......thats your own personal issue. I believe you are completely delusional. I also think you judgment is clouded by bias. But hey...its all opinions. |
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