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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 15:06:25 GMT -5
Opium can be synthesized into heroin. Ok. What's his point though? Is he trying to say that because he had a more powerful drug that the charge is justifiable?
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Post by kojak on Dec 31, 2010 15:06:55 GMT -5
Sorry man the guy had Opium that is already a Felony. And the amount that was found you might as well just hand him heroin its the same thing. What? You didnt know that he had opium? Well sorry to burst your bubble man but Jeff Hardy was found with opium in his home which that alone is a felony charge. Like I said Jeff might as well had heroin in his house because its the same thing.
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Post by theryanegan on Dec 31, 2010 15:07:46 GMT -5
OK. You aren't even paying attention. Otherwise, you'd see that more than one person has provided more than enough evidence to support the possibility he was intending to sell. But, hey, whatever. Stay in your ignorance. There is no proof. You can say he may have had a scale or sandwich bags. But that is bullpoop. He couldn't have those things for any other reason than drugs? See, that isn't proof. So, you are telling me that, if someone comes into my house, and sees I have drugs spread all over a table, with ziploc bags and a scale right there on the table, with the drugs, I should just be able to say "Oh no. I'm just getting ready to pack my lunch. And I have the scale because I weigh out the portions of my bologna into specific amounts"? Like I said. Stay in your ignorance.
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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 15:08:23 GMT -5
You didnt know that he had opium? Well sorry to burst your bubble man but Jeff Hardy was found with opium in his home which that alone is a felony charge. Like I said Jeff might as well had heroin in his house because its the same thing. I don't care what type of drug he had on him. I'm just trying to figure out your point.
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Post by kojak on Dec 31, 2010 15:12:23 GMT -5
Opium can be synthesized into heroin. Ok. What's his point though? Is he trying to say that because he had a more powerful drug that the charge is justifiable? Ok here it is opium can be synthesized into heroin so unless you are saying that Jeff is using the opium himself and the quantity that he had was only for recreational use then he is bigger drug addict then all his fans would like to believe he isnt. If thats not the case then what would a man need that much opium for? typically its to make heroin which means there is the intent to sell. So either way you look at it hes either a criminal for having the stuff, or a criminal for the intent on selling the stuff. Either way you look at it, its a felony for possession.
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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 15:13:10 GMT -5
There is no proof. You can say he may have had a scale or sandwich bags. But that is bullpoop. He couldn't have those things for any other reason than drugs? See, that isn't proof. So, you are telling me that, if someone comes into my house, and sees I have drugs spread all over a table, with ziploc bags and a scale right there on the table, with the drugs, I should just be able to say "Oh no. I'm just getting ready to pack my lunch. And I have the scale because I weigh out the portions of my bologna into specific amounts"? Like I said. Stay in your ignorance. I don't see how I'm ignorant. Jeff may like to do a line of coke after he eats his sandwich. That is why he has the two together. If you have a scale in your house or sandwich bags does not mean that you are going to deal drugs. Even if they caught Jeff with drugs on the scale and putting the drugs into sandwich bags does not mean he is intending to sell. Jeff may like to carry his drugs on him and he weighs it out so that he has a certain amount on him at all times instead of just taking just a ton with him.
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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 15:16:44 GMT -5
Ok. What's his point though? Is he trying to say that because he had a more powerful drug that the charge is justifiable? Ok here it is opium can be synthesized into heroin so unless you are saying that Jeff is using the opium himself and the quantity that he had was only for recreational use then he is bigger drug addict then all his fans would like to believe he isnt. If thats not the case then what would a man need that much opium for? typically its to make heroin which means there is the intent to sell. So either way you look at it hes either a criminal for having the stuff, or a criminal for the intent on selling the stuff. Either way you look at it, its a felony for possession. Yes, Jeff may just be the biggest junkie in the world. What I have read is that Jeff received a package that had drugs in it and then he was busted. Do we even know if it was legit? It could all be entrapment for all we know.
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Post by theryanegan on Dec 31, 2010 15:19:48 GMT -5
Oh yeah. People plead guilty to charges they know they have been set up on all the time.
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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 15:24:23 GMT -5
Oh yeah. People plead guilty to charges they know they have been set up on all the time. Well not all the time. People have confessed to murder when they had nothing to do with it at all. We all take the report seriously even though his girlfriend has said the report is false and that the paper is basically a tabloid. So he may not actually plead guilty. We do have to wait until he has his next court appearance to see.
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Post by kojak on Dec 31, 2010 15:26:42 GMT -5
Yes, Jeff may just be the biggest junkie in the world. What I have read is that Jeff received a package that had drugs in it and then he was busted. Do we even know if it was legit? It could all be entrapment for all we know. He was originally arrested on September 11, 2009, when police found 262 Vicodin prescription pills, 180 soma prescription pills, 555 milliliters of anabolic steroids, a residual amount of powder cocaine and drug paraphernalia after a search of his house. He was indicted on January 4, 2010. He faces five felonies, a misdemeanor charge and a conspiracy charge. His charges include: - Felony possession of cocaine - Felony drug trafficking of opium - Felony possession with intent to redistribute a Schedule III drug (two counts) - Maintaining a dwelling for drug use and/or distribution - Possession of drug paraphernalia (misdemeanor) - Conspiracy to traffic opium for trafficking four or more grams but less than fourteen grams of opium/heroin. You think all those drugs was just in a package that was sent to him and he unknowingly opened it and as soon as he did the cops came in a at that very same time while he was opening the package to arrest him for it? But you also think with all those drugs he planned on using them all by himself.
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Post by theryanegan on Dec 31, 2010 15:27:21 GMT -5
The Moore County DA is a dirt sheet? Jeff's own LAWYER is a dirt sheet?
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Post by K5 on Dec 31, 2010 15:28:21 GMT -5
slappy...c'mon. those digital scales are literally sold only with the intention of drug use, for the most part illicit. they're not going to see sandwich bags in his kitchen and associate it with the drug, the bags would have to be with or somehow correlating to the drugs (ie. residue in the bottom of the bags) or perhaps even powdered residue on the stage.
and for the dude that's saying jeff was looking to produce heroin from opium...seriously, just no...the chances of jeff actually extracting heroin from opium is like a 1 in 100 chance. opium is serious enough as it is, he probably smoked it as if he was injecting drugs it would be quite apparent...the chemical extraction process is tedious with heroin. you have to turn it into morphine and then add a number of various chemicals for the right effect, even an experienced chemist would have to be quite careful and exact in his attempt. he got busted with opium, he uses opium.
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Post by kojak on Dec 31, 2010 15:30:32 GMT -5
Oh and slappy just to let you know you cant get a felony charge on possession of cocaine on residual amount. They found more after searching his house.
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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 15:34:07 GMT -5
If it was a substantial amount of coke, they would have put an amount, so it must not have been really anything.
Look at that PRESCRIPTION. Jeff may need to take 8-10 Vicodin a day, so the 262 would be less than a month's worht.
Drug paraphernalia could be anything including needles which would make sense since he had steroids. He would need to inject them somehow.
If you use drugs in your house, just living there could be the dwelling charge. I seriously doubt that Jeff has a house just for drug use and then another house for him to live in.
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Post by kojak on Dec 31, 2010 15:34:40 GMT -5
slappy...c'mon. those digital scales are literally sold only with the intention of drug use, for the most part illicit. they're not going to see sandwich bags in his kitchen and associate it with the drug, the bags would have to be with or somehow correlating to the drugs (ie. residue in the bottom of the bags) or perhaps even powdered residue on the stage. and for the dude that's saying jeff was looking to produce heroin from opium...seriously, just no...the chances of jeff actually extracting heroin from opium is like a 1 in 100 chance. opium is serious enough as it is, he probably smoked it as if he was injecting drugs it would be quite apparent...the chemical extraction process is tedious with heroin. you have to turn it into morphine and then add a number of various chemicals for the right effect, even an experienced chemist would have to be quite careful and exact in his attempt. he got busted with opium, he uses opium. I never said that he had the intention of making heroin I just said he had opium which means he could sell it to someone to make heroin. Its not that hard to find someone who is willing to make heroin. But as I stated he is either a big user or a dealer either way its a felony to have period.
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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 15:35:08 GMT -5
The Moore County DA is a dirt sheet? Jeff's own LAWYER is a dirt sheet? They have come out and said he is going to plead guilty? Because what I read in here was that it was some news report and that his girlfriend has said the news report was wrong.
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Post by K5 on Dec 31, 2010 15:36:57 GMT -5
Look at that PRESCRIPTION. Jeff may need to take 8-10 Vicodin a day, so the 262 would be less than a month's worht. the average human being would overdose after taking 10 vicodins in one day. there is no way he was legally prescribed that much.
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Post by theryanegan on Dec 31, 2010 15:39:51 GMT -5
Do some research other than this thread. It'll be great.
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Post by kojak on Dec 31, 2010 15:41:10 GMT -5
If it was a substantial amount of coke, they would have put an amount, so it must not have been really anything. Look at that PRESCRIPTION. Jeff may need to take 8-10 Vicodin a day, so the 262 would be less than a month's worht. Drug paraphernalia could be anything including needles which would make sense since he had steroids. He would need to inject them somehow. If you use drugs in your house, just living there could be the dwelling charge. I seriously doubt that Jeff has a house just for drug use and then another house for him to live in. I love how you mention the drugs and make them seem so minimal and like its not worth mentioning but the opium which is a felony charge you choose to overlook.
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Post by Seahorse on Dec 31, 2010 15:43:06 GMT -5
The Moore County DA is a dirt sheet? Jeff's own LAWYER is a dirt sheet? They have come out and said he is going to plead guilty? Because what I read in here was that it was some news report and that his girlfriend has said the news report was wrong. North Carolina newspaper The Pilot reports that TNA World Heavyweight Champion Jeff Hardy will enter a negotiated plea 1/20, according to his attorney, James Van Camp."We anticipate a resolution of this matter in January," Van Camp said earlier this month at an administrative session of Moore County Superior Court. Moore County District Attorney Maureen Krueger said that Hardy will plead guilty to one or more of the charges he faces. Krueger did not disclose details of the state's plea offer but said it will include a sentencing arrangement. The Pilot reports that the plea would have to be approved by the court. A judge may refuse to accept a plea arrangement involving a negotiated sentence.
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