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Post by Kliquid on Aug 16, 2011 19:50:21 GMT -5
The only reason i was pissed about losing Ellis was because he was around so long. Dude made like 50 or 60 million dollars with the Jets. You mean to tell him that 3 mill made THAT much of a difference? Come on. I get mad or upset anytime a good player leaves my team especially one who played for 10 years on the team. Right now in his life, yeah, apparently it did make a difference to him. ... And maybe he decided that he wanted to play for the Patriots, as opposed to the Jets, even if money WASN'T an issue. Who cares? That's his decision to make. You know how you avoid that situation if you're the Jets? Get him a new contract before he's a free agent. Kliq....the reason I gave poop to Ellis is b/c of piss poor reporting. If the facts were reported accurately and not as if Ellis left for just a few thousand more, then I wouldnt have been up in arms about it. I understand that, but that's not really his fault, is it? |
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 16, 2011 19:51:11 GMT -5
Apparently Eli Manning said he considers himself to be in the same class as Tom Brady when it comes to elite quarterbacks in the NFL.... LMAO roflcopter |
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Post by user9327 on Aug 16, 2011 19:52:43 GMT -5
Too much time for pulling ALL of this you've been writing over one statement. Putting all these words in my mouth and claiming I have all these feelings. It's been illogical, pretentious and baseless. It wasn't one statement. In fact, I copied three different things you said. I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm quoting you. You're putting words in your own mouth... Or fingers, as the case may be. Okay, so he pouted... ... What the  does that even mean? I'm not surprised either. Want to know why? Because it's a ING GAME. He's talked poop before, lots of guys have... This isn't the first time, man. He was playing the media game, helping to sell himself and the team. He's going to continue to do it. No one is surprised. If you want to convert that into homerism or put more feelings and words into my mouth; I'm just laughin. Laugh all you want. It's just convenient that you say all these things after he leaves your team. Go back to my post, you quoted one line and have now made it into a multiple page thesis defense. |
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Post by user9327 on Aug 16, 2011 19:58:26 GMT -5
Apparently Eli Manning said he considers himself to be in the same class as Tom Brady when it comes to elite quarterbacks in the NFL.... LMAO Yea not sure why he'd say that publicly until he has an Elite performance under his belt. But I will say that I'd rather he believe in himself and think he's capable than believe he's not capable. I'm sure he believed he could beat the Pat's that year and had he not believed they would not have won. |
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 16, 2011 20:02:23 GMT -5
I quoted one thing that you wrote, because I thought it was funny that you said he's in it for himself... When just about every player is.
You didn't expand upon that statement. Instead, you just have used these vague statements like, "he involved himself with a lot of priorities I didn't think highly of." Whatever the hell that means.
If you actually explained what you meant, perhaps the rest of us would understand what you're trying to say.
... But when you talk about a player being in it for himself, right after he leaves your team... Yeah, the rest of us are going to presume that you're some butt-hurt homer.
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Post by user9327 on Aug 16, 2011 20:24:41 GMT -5
I quoted one thing that you wrote, because I thought it was funny that you said he's in it for himself... When just about every player is. You didn't expand upon that statement. Instead, you just have used these vague statements like, "he involved himself with a lot of priorities I didn't think highly of." Whatever the hell that means. If you actually explained what you meant, perhaps the rest of us would understand what you're trying to say. ... But when you talk about a player being in it for himself, right after he leaves your team... Yeah, the rest of us are going to presume that you're some butt-hurt homer. I can't really say some of the things I'd use as examples and in general I don't really care to, I was just making an observation. If you want to indict it like this is a scholarly debate I am just telling you that you're wasting your time. You think that my observation is funny and that I'm butthurt. That's fair enough and I've been telling you this for a while now. But you're going on and on about butthurt like it's some priority or important here. Maybe to you, but I don't really get stimulated by that and think your priority towards that is funny. I was just talking about an NFL player, I've no interest in an indictment of NY fans on WF. Lol. It is what it is. |
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 16, 2011 20:37:26 GMT -5
If you're not willing to get into why he is "in it for himself," outside of football, then why are you bringing it up numerous times?
It'd be like me saying, "I've been at Vikings training camp and Jared Allen is a dirty, good-for-nothin' racist" in numerous posts. Then when someone asks me why I feel that way, I try to work my way around it by responding with some vague bullcrapthat makes no sense whatsoever.
My guess is that my initial analysis is correct and that you have no actual information to present. You're upset that Steve Smith left your team. That's fine. I get it. But don't insult the man's character because he wanted to improve his life.
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Post by Dexter Morgan on Aug 16, 2011 20:48:00 GMT -5
If you're not willing to get into why he is "in it for himself," outside of football, then why are you bringing it up numerous times? It'd be like me saying, "I've been at Vikings training camp and Jared Allen is a dirty, good-for-nothin' racist" in numerous posts. Then when someone asks me why I feel that way, I try to work my way around it by responding with some vague bullpoop that makes no sense whatsoever. My guess is that my initial analysis is correct and that you have no actual information to present. You're upset that Steve Smith left your team. That's fine. I get it. But don't insult the man's character because he wanted to improve his life. don't forget other fans (none on here that I know of) wishing injury, death, and spew names at him. |
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 16, 2011 20:52:20 GMT -5
I think Giants fans should be hoping he fails miserably on the Eagles, but to hope he gets hurt or whatnot is just idiotic. I know no one here has said that, but like you said, there are people who have said it about Smith and many others in the past. People take being a fan way too in seriously. |
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Post by user9327 on Aug 16, 2011 21:02:05 GMT -5
If you're not willing to get into why he is "in it for himself," outside of football, then why are you bringing it up numerous times? It'd be like me saying, "I've been at Vikings training camp and Jared Allen is a dirty, good-for-nothin' racist" in numerous posts. Then when someone asks me why I feel that way, I try to work my way around it by responding with some vague bullpoop that makes no sense whatsoever. My guess is that my initial analysis is correct and that you have no actual information to present. You're upset that Steve Smith left your team. That's fine. I get it. But don't insult the man's character because he wanted to improve his life. You said yourself, assumptions. That's all you've really gone on, assumptions. You've made a lot of assumptions here about me and how I feel, yet you're telling me not to insult a man's character because he wanted to improve his life (another assumptions that is completely baseless and sensationalized)? I'm laughin (but you'll say I'm just butthurt and act just as delusional as the argument you're trying to promote). Yea, in short, I don't really think getting in depth and detailed with you is worth my time. You can make all the assumptions and guesses (your words) you want. Or you can claim I've got nothing, and you're right. For you, I've got nothing. I'm just laughin. |
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 16, 2011 21:17:53 GMT -5
The rest of us are also laughing. Only, our laughter directed at your pointless responses.
The only "delusional" argument is the one you created about how Steve Smith is "immature/narrow-minded" without actually stating any logical information to support that claim.
Of course getting into it isn't worth your time. You're making it up as you go along and that is pretty obvious at this point.
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Post by T R W on Aug 16, 2011 21:29:03 GMT -5
Really not sure who I am going to take with my #3 pick this year in my money league.
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Post by Dexter Morgan on Aug 16, 2011 21:30:09 GMT -5
The rest of us are also laughing. Only, our laughter directed at your pointless responses. The only "delusional" argument is the one you created about how Steve Smith is "immature/narrow-minded" without actually stating any logical information to support that claim. Of course getting into it isn't worth your time. You're making it up as you go along and that is pretty obvious at this point. No, see he goes to Giants training camp and he KNOWS Steve Smith personally now  . Anyways Kliq, KSL and me have been debating on Fox. I tell him Fox doesn't make adjustments, and sticks with vets to long and he tries saying I'm a hater, thoughts? I told him Fox didn't control the draft, and doesn't really develop players, but yeah. I don't think Fox is horrible but I don't think he's a top flight HC either. I really think he is best suited for DC or a HC ONLY if there is an OC there who is really good. |
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 16, 2011 21:31:59 GMT -5
Really not sure who I am going to take with my #3 pick this year in my money league. Man that's a tough pick. I think the top of the draft this year is as up-in-the-air as in any year I can remember. |
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 16, 2011 21:34:33 GMT -5
Well here's the thing... I think you're probably right about a lot of it, but you're also obviously wrong about some of it as well.
Clearly Fox has developed some talent. The Panthers have had quite a few top-level guys on their roster throughout the years. He obviously had SOME control over the draft. The level of control, we may never know...
... But I think the biggest knock on Fox is that he has never developed a QUARTERBACK. I think that, ultimately, will be his downfall in Denver as well.
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Post by T R W on Aug 16, 2011 21:37:32 GMT -5
Really not sure who I am going to take with my #3 pick this year in my money league. Man that's a tough pick. I think the top of the draft this year is as up-in-the-air as in any year I can remember. I know. Plenty of other years I would have had my pick locked in already. But honestly, who knows how it goes. I have a feeling Peterson and Foster will probably go 1, and 2. I don't have a lot of faith in Chris Johnson, especially with the holdout. I'm starting to consider Ray Rice or Charles. |
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Post by Dexter Morgan on Aug 16, 2011 21:42:04 GMT -5
Well here's the thing... I think you're probably right about a lot of it, but you're also obviously wrong about some of it as well. Clearly Fox has developed some talent. The Panthers have had quite a few top-level guys on their roster throughout the years. He obviously had SOME control over the draft. The level of control, we may never know... ... But I think the biggest knock on Fox is that he has never developed a QUARTERBACK. I think that, ultimately, will be his downfall in Denver as well. I think as long as he has a good OC he'll be fine in Denver, but if the OC in Denver is anything like Carolina's old OC Broncos fans are in for a rough patch. |
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Post by user9327 on Aug 16, 2011 22:14:40 GMT -5
The rest of us are also laughing. Only, our laughter directed at your pointless responses. The only "delusional" argument is the one you created about how Steve Smith is "immature/narrow-minded" without actually stating any logical information to support that claim. Of course getting into it isn't worth your time. You're making it up as you go along and that is pretty obvious at this point. If you're mad that I'm not giving you enough information, blame yourself, you act like a pretentious, inconsiderate and stubborn fool. Why would I want to engage in anything with you? The rest of you are laughing? I don't see it (you're pretentious). That is why I haven't engaged much into the Smith talk with you. I've just pointed out how brash you are coming off, honestly if you don't like how I'm debating with you or not providing enough substance it's purely because I think your integrity is flawed. Yet you challenge mine, but tell me not to challenge Smith's? Doesn't make any sense, you're a hypocrite. |
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Post by user9327 on Aug 16, 2011 22:18:08 GMT -5
The rest of us are also laughing. Only, our laughter directed at your pointless responses. The only "delusional" argument is the one you created about how Steve Smith is "immature/narrow-minded" without actually stating any logical information to support that claim. Of course getting into it isn't worth your time. You're making it up as you go along and that is pretty obvious at this point. No, see he goes to Giants training camp and he KNOWS Steve Smith personally now . You have no idea what you are talking about. |
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 16, 2011 22:24:40 GMT -5
The rest of us are also laughing. Only, our laughter directed at your pointless responses. The only "delusional" argument is the one you created about how Steve Smith is "immature/narrow-minded" without actually stating any logical information to support that claim. Of course getting into it isn't worth your time. You're making it up as you go along and that is pretty obvious at this point. If you're mad that I'm not giving you enough information, blame yourself, you act like a pretentious, inconsiderate and stubborn fool. Why would I want to engage in anything with you? The rest of you are laughing? I don't see it (you're pretentious). That is why I haven't engaged much into the Smith talk with you. I've just pointed out how brash you are coming off, honestly if you don't like how I'm debating with you or not providing enough substance it's purely because I think your integrity is flawed. Yet you challenge mine, but tell me not to challenge Smith's? Doesn't make any sense, you're a hypocrite. Yes, MY integrity is flawed. Because I'm the one making up crapabout an athlete's personal life. |
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