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Post by user9327 on Aug 16, 2011 22:36:26 GMT -5
How am I making anything up about an athlete's personal life?
Can you quote where I did this or provide any information that would suggest I am making anything up?
Why do you keep insisting for multiple pages to challenge my integrity?
Yet, if I make an observation about Smith, you claim I'm out of line and need to "move on." But you are running to defend Steve Smith's name for 2-3 pages and not moving on from it yourself.
Your initial claim was that NY fans "take this poop too seriously."
You take NY fans and my claims awfully seriously and you are making a claim about my integrity but telling me to not make any observations about Smith. Sounds pretty hypocritical.
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 16, 2011 22:49:41 GMT -5
I'm saying that you made it up because you have provided zero actual information.
Again, this would be like me saying Jared Allen is a racist without providing any points to prove it.
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Post by captain master talbot on Aug 16, 2011 22:50:28 GMT -5
Can we talk about football, not argue about this sh*t?
Please, its done. Smiths an Iggle. Nobody is right in this argument, you both look like asses.
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Post by BV on Aug 16, 2011 22:51:07 GMT -5
everyone shut the up and suck drew brees' dick ok
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Post by captain master talbot on Aug 16, 2011 22:53:10 GMT -5
everyone shut the up and suck drew brees' dick ok I'd rather awkwardly poke his mole
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Post by user9327 on Aug 16, 2011 23:01:51 GMT -5
I'm saying that you made it up because you have provided zero actual information. Again, this would be like me saying Jared Allen is a racist without providing any points to prove it. Not even close. I'm not calling anyone a racist or anything close. I'm not even making a categorized claim. I'm saying I'm not surprised by some of Smith's actions and statements. You are failing to see the granularity of this in comparison to how much you are sensationalizing what I am saying and generalizing it with what you've seen from........ other users that aren't me. I made an observation based off of what I've seen. Are you telling me I don't have the right to make an observation and keep it as simple as I want? That I have to answer to YOU? I don't have to provide a highly detailed account for you, you are not Steve Smith... but you are defending him. I've never even met you, I have no reason to trust you or the internet and come out with some detailed diatribe against Steve Smith. Frankly, I don't want to do that. I just wanted to make an observation. I didn't think that would cause you to tell me I can't make an observation without having integrity indicted. It's not like I was putting words in anyone's mouth or telling someone they are "butthurt." Does that make any sense? Do I have to explain this anymore?
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 16, 2011 23:06:01 GMT -5
Peyton Manning likes gay sex.
I went to Colts training camp for a day and it's my opinion that he loves gay sex. Don't ask me any questions about why I came to that conclusion, though.
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Post by user9327 on Aug 16, 2011 23:06:42 GMT -5
Apologies to anyone who is annoyed, I know it may not seem like I am considerate of that but I was annoyed too.
I just am not gonna sit here and be generalized or misread. I just defended myself.
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Post by becausethenight on Aug 16, 2011 23:08:05 GMT -5
Peyton Manning likes gay sex. I went to Colts training camp for a day and it's my opinion that he loves gay sex. Don't ask me any questions about why I came to that conclusion, though.
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Post by captain master talbot on Aug 16, 2011 23:20:49 GMT -5
Just to fuel the fire (Not saying Eli is in Brady's category, not that much of a homer, but here are each's stats after 7 years:
Tom Brady Stats First 7 years ============================= Games Started: 94 Completions: 1,896 Attempts: 3,064 Percentage comp.: 57.87% Yds: 21,564 Avg: 6.36 yds/att TD: 147 Int: 78 Sacks: 182 Fumbles: 59 Fumbles lost: 25 Rushing yds: 435 Rushing TDs: 3
Eli Manning stats First 7 years =============================== Games Started: 103 Completions: 1,932 Attempts: 3,332 Percentage comp.: 57.2% Yds: 22,646 Avg: 6.8 yds/att TD: 156 Int: 113 Sacks: 166 Fumbles: 59 Fumbles lost: 27 Rushing yds: 350 Rushing TDs: 3
Only real difference is the picks.
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Post by user9327 on Aug 16, 2011 23:22:23 GMT -5
Just to fuel the fire (Not saying Eli is in Brady's category, not that much of a homer, but here are each's stats after 7 years: Tom Brady Stats First 7 years ============================= Games Started: 94 Completions: 1,896 Attempts: 3,064 Percentage comp.: 57.87% Yds: 21,564 Avg: 6.36 yds/att TD: 147 Int: 78 Sacks: 182 Fumbles: 59 Fumbles lost: 25 Rushing yds: 435 Rushing TDs: 3 Eli Manning stats First 7 years =============================== Games Started: 103 Completions: 1,932 Attempts: 3,332 Percentage comp.: 57.2% Yds: 22,646 Avg: 6.8 yds/att TD: 156 Int: 113 Sacks: 166 Fumbles: 59 Fumbles lost: 27 Rushing yds: 350 Rushing TDs: 3 Only real difference is the picks. I think Eli gets underrated but I also think he is nowhere's near Elite. He's had some shitty situations around him the last few years. Even the Superbowl year, that team had so much drama.
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 16, 2011 23:34:04 GMT -5
Tom Brady was throwing to like, me and my friends during his Super Bowls... And he still had like 40 less INT's. LoL.
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Post by captain master talbot on Aug 16, 2011 23:39:23 GMT -5
Tom Brady was throwing to like, me and my friends during his Super Bowls... And he still had like 40 less INT's. LoL. Yea I know, Eli makes me hit my head against the wall, but he also plays in the least QB friendly offense in the NFL. That said, Brady is a top 5 QB of all time, hands down.
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Post by Dexter Morgan on Aug 16, 2011 23:49:11 GMT -5
Tom Brady was throwing to like, me and my friends during his Super Bowls... And he still had like 40 less INT's. LoL. Yea I know, Eli makes me hit my head against the wall, but he also plays in the least QB friendly offense in the NFL. That said, Brady is a top 5 QB of all time, hands down. least QB friendly lol ok. Carolina and Tennessee say hi.
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Post by captain master talbot on Aug 16, 2011 23:51:19 GMT -5
Yea I know, Eli makes me hit my head against the wall, but he also plays in the least QB friendly offense in the NFL. That said, Brady is a top 5 QB of all time, hands down. least QB friendly lol ok. Carolina and Tennessee say hi. Having a shitty QB doesn't mean you have an unfriendly offense. It's completely option based.
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Post by machoking on Aug 16, 2011 23:54:16 GMT -5
Eli Manning is to Tom Brady as Boomer Esiason was to Joe Montana
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Post by user9327 on Aug 16, 2011 23:54:45 GMT -5
The best part about all of this is that Eli now has to back up his play more than ever. He's one terrible performance away from getting blasted.
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Post by twinn on Aug 17, 2011 0:01:05 GMT -5
It's just a stupid thing for any QB (besides Peyton) to say.
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Post by user9327 on Aug 17, 2011 0:03:09 GMT -5
Yea I hear that. It's great that he believes it but he should keep it to himself.
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Post by Dexter Morgan on Aug 17, 2011 6:01:02 GMT -5
least QB friendly lol ok. Carolina and Tennessee say hi. Having a poopty QB doesn't mean you have an unfriendly offense. It's completely option based. Not at all, but I would say the two teams I listed run more then NY. Plus just 1-2 weeks ago NY fans were saying how GOOD their WRs were (including Smith until he left where he instantly became the devil and sucked.)
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