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Post by slappy on Mar 16, 2011 11:49:57 GMT -5
I don't have much to say but Badnewz, bravo.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 16, 2011 11:53:17 GMT -5
Like I said guys. I have zero problem with self defense. i just think driving the kid into the ground powerbomb style was overkill. Pleasing to look at, but overkill none the less. Call me what you want.
Never once have I said that the kid was flat out wrong. Self defense is what it is, and that's what Casey did. Defend himself. As I stated previously, I know how I would've reacted, and the kid reacted rationally in his mind, I'm sure of it. But it doesn't change my opinion that his reaction in defending himself may have gone a bit overboard.
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Post by RSCTom on Mar 16, 2011 11:54:05 GMT -5
^ Sorry dude, but I just can't take you seriously anymore. You actually believe that "a simple shove" would have been the better option to go with AFTER getting punched in the face....Wow...Now I know why you were bullied... Haha me? Time out, time out. I said NON VIOLENCE is the solution. I don't particularly agree with a "simple shove" but I agree that it never should've gotten as far as it does. If you want to talk about ME being bullied, I have been a foot taller than everyone else my entire life. I don't have an ounce of patience in situations like that, so there's a big difference between what I would DO if bullied and what I think should be done. My brain goes to a completely different place and I actually used to get pissed when it happened instead of getting calm. The one time a kid older than me pushed my younger brother in 4th grade, I grabbed the kid and threw him into a pricker bush. The one time a kid yelled at me from off his front porch in 2nd grade, I went up to the porch, he punched me in the eye, and I uppercut him over his own railing. The one time a kid stole one of my X-Men cards and I found him walking around with it in his back pocket in 5th grade, I took it from his pocket, threw him down and stomped on his chest. That's elementary school. The one and ONLY time I got close to a fight in high school, as I had learned to be better at making people feel stupid with words by then, was a kid calling me a f****t. My eyes lit up, I went after him and he probably would've ended up in the hospital had a girl who didn't even know what I was charging at stopped me to tell me a joke. There's a difference between how you think a situation should go, and how you will actually react in one. Remember this before making your judgments on me or anyone else here.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 16, 2011 11:55:24 GMT -5
^ Sorry dude, but I just can't take you seriously anymore. You actually believe that "a simple shove" would have been the better option to go with AFTER getting punched in the face....Wow...Now I know why you were bullied... Haha me? Time out, time out. I said NON VIOLENCE is the solution. I don't particularly agree with a "simple shove" but I agree that it never should've gotten as far as it does. If you want to talk about ME being bullied, I have been a foot taller than everyone else my entire life. I don't have an ounce of patience in situations like that, so there's a big difference between what I would DO if bullied and what I think should be done. My brain goes to a completely different place and I actually used to get pissed when it happened instead of getting calm. The one time a kid older than me pushed my younger brother in 4th grade, I grabbed the kid and threw him into a pricker bush. The one time a kid yelled at me from off his front porch in 2nd grade, I went up to the porch, he punched me in the eye, and I uppercut him over his own railing. The one time a kid stole one of my X-Men cards and I found him walking around with it in his back pocket in 5th grade, I took it from his pocket, threw him down and stomped on his chest. That's elementary school. The one and ONLY time I got close to a fight in high school, as I had learned to be better at making people feel stupid with words by then, was a kid calling me a f****t. My eyes lit up, I went after him and he probably would've ended up in the hospital had a girl who didn't even know what I was charging at stopped me to tell me a joke. There's a difference between how you think a situation should go, and how you will actually react in one. Remember this before making your judgments on me or anyone else here. He was talking to me.
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Post by johnnydirtbag on Mar 16, 2011 11:55:34 GMT -5
But again, after years of possible built up agression towards someone making his life awful, I don't think he went too far at all. I honestly believe the kid got less than he deserved.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Mar 16, 2011 11:56:45 GMT -5
^ Sorry dude, but I just can't take you seriously anymore. You actually believe that "a simple shove" would have been the better option to go with AFTER getting punched in the face....Wow...Now I know why you were bullied... Haha me? Time out, time out. I said NON VIOLENCE is the solution. I don't particularly agree with a "simple shove" but I agree that it never should've gotten as far as it does. If you want to talk about ME being bullied, I have been a foot taller than everyone else my entire life. I don't have an ounce of patience in situations like that, so there's a big difference between what I would DO if bullied and what I think should be done. My brain goes to a completely different place and I actually used to get pissed when it happened instead of getting calm. The one time a kid older than me pushed my younger brother in 4th grade, I grabbed the kid and threw him into a pricker bush. The one time a kid yelled at me from off his front porch in 2nd grade, I went up to the porch, he punched me in the eye, and I uppercut him over his own railing. The one time a kid stole one of my X-Men cards and I found him walking around with it in his back pocket in 5th grade, I took it from his pocket, threw him down and stomped on his chest. That's elementary school. The one and ONLY time I got close to a fight in high school, as I had learned to be better at making people feel stupid with words by then, was a kid calling me a f****t. My eyes lit up, I went after him and he probably would've ended up in the hospital had a girl who didn't even know what I was charging at stopped me to tell me a joke. There's a difference between how you think a situation should go, and how you will actually react in one. Remember this before making your judgments on me or anyone else here. I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to Badnewz or maybe he should change his name to Goodnewz the way he would've handled the situation. ;D I'm just messin' with him.
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Post by RSCTom on Mar 16, 2011 11:57:17 GMT -5
Haha me? Time out, time out. I said NON VIOLENCE is the solution. I don't particularly agree with a "simple shove" but I agree that it never should've gotten as far as it does. If you want to talk about ME being bullied, I have been a foot taller than everyone else my entire life. I don't have an ounce of patience in situations like that, so there's a big difference between what I would DO if bullied and what I think should be done. My brain goes to a completely different place and I actually used to get pissed when it happened instead of getting calm. The one time a kid older than me pushed my younger brother in 4th grade, I grabbed the kid and threw him into a pricker bush. The one time a kid yelled at me from off his front porch in 2nd grade, I went up to the porch, he punched me in the eye, and I uppercut him over his own railing. The one time a kid stole one of my X-Men cards and I found him walking around with it in his back pocket in 5th grade, I took it from his pocket, threw him down and stomped on his chest. That's elementary school. The one and ONLY time I got close to a fight in high school, as I had learned to be better at making people feel stupid with words by then, was a kid calling me a f****t. My eyes lit up, I went after him and he probably would've ended up in the hospital had a girl who didn't even know what I was charging at stopped me to tell me a joke. There's a difference between how you think a situation should go, and how you will actually react in one. Remember this before making your judgments on me or anyone else here. He was talking to me. Whoops! My bad! Now you guys know what used to happen when I got bullied! haha We should share those stories from now on. Those can be fun.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 16, 2011 11:58:37 GMT -5
But again, after years of possible built up agression towards someone making his life awful, I don't think he went too far at all. I honestly believe the kid got less than he deserved. That' just the difference between you and I good sir.
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 16, 2011 11:59:42 GMT -5
But again, after years of possible built up agression towards someone making his life awful, I don't think he went too far at all. exactly, he had an emotional reaction, that was more so uncontrollable then it was for him to be able to take time to consider his options...a person doesn't think logically when being punched repeatedly... that is the only part that i disagree with you on badnews...the rest i think your golden on...i think your taking the instinctual side of us out of the equation and leaving it to vengeful thinking due to how it looked when in all logic, the reaction of the kid was with in the normal parameters of a bullied child who went bust.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 16, 2011 12:00:46 GMT -5
Whoops! My bad! Now you guys know what used to happen when I got bullied! haha We should share those stories from now on. Those can be fun. Lol! I already shared what happened the one time I was bullied in Elementary school. I found the kid at recess, pounded on him and flung him in a ditch by his shirt. Retrospectively I'm not proud of it. But hey, I was a child. That's why I'm not faulting this kid for reacting that way.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 16, 2011 12:03:07 GMT -5
But again, after years of possible built up agression towards someone making his life awful, I don't think he went too far at all. exactly, he had an emotional reaction, that was more so uncontrollable then it was for him to be able to take time to consider his options...a person doesn't think logically when being punched repeatedly... that is the only part that i disagree with you on badnews...the rest i think your golden on...i think your taking the instinctual side of us out of the equation and leaving it to vengeful thinking due to how it looked when in all logic, the reaction of the kid was with in the normal parameters of a bullied child who went bust. One that side of the coin, I can actually agree with you guys. Being bullied for an extended period of time can take you to a "special" place in your mind that no one else wants to go with you, lol. So I get that, as I've been there as a kid.
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Post by K5 on Mar 16, 2011 12:04:24 GMT -5
Like I said guys. I have zero problem with self defense. i just think driving the kid into the ground powerbomb style was overkill. Pleasing to look at, but overkill none the less. Call me what you want. this is completely true.
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Post by RSCTom on Mar 16, 2011 12:08:00 GMT -5
I just rewatched and saw that big kid going after him at the end.
Those kids are dicks.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 16, 2011 12:09:37 GMT -5
Also, I'd like to commend you guys for a good healthy discussion. Those are very rare on this forum. So it's great to have one every now and then.
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Post by hbkjason on Mar 16, 2011 12:09:42 GMT -5
I am not a violent person at all but an ass kicking is all a bully understands. I say well done to the kid for standing up for him self.
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Post by RSCTom on Mar 16, 2011 12:10:23 GMT -5
Let me ask you guys this, what would you do as the father of the bully after seeing that video?
Most likely we are all completely different people than this guy and I want to stop short of making any judgments of him (even though my first guess is that he's a huge jerk much like his son) but what if you were you, with your current thought process, and you suddenly saw your child acting this way?
Would your first reaction be to defend him? What would you think of him?
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Post by johnnydirtbag on Mar 16, 2011 12:17:23 GMT -5
But again, after years of possible built up agression towards someone making his life awful, I don't think he went too far at all. I honestly believe the kid got less than he deserved. That' just the difference between you and I good sir. It's cool that you like that we have a difference but I don't know if we do.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 16, 2011 12:17:57 GMT -5
Let me ask you guys this, what would you do as the father of the bully after seeing that video? Most likely we are all completely different people than this guy and I want to stop short of making any judgments of him (even though my first guess is that he's a huge jerk much like his son) but what if you were you, with your current thought process, and you suddenly saw your child acting this way? Would your first reaction be to defend him? What would you think of him? Dude, I honestly don't know. Of course I'd be angry that some other kid was the reason that my son couldn't walk. But I'm a spiritual man (or at least I try to be, lol), so my son would definately have reaped what he sewed. I'd be upset that the reaction was taken to such an extent, but how "angry" could I really get and be justified? I mean my kid's action caused the REaction after all.
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Post by johnnydirtbag on Mar 16, 2011 12:18:47 GMT -5
Let me ask you guys this, what would you do as the father of the bully after seeing that video? Most likely we are all completely different people than this guy and I want to stop short of making any judgments of him (even though my first guess is that he's a huge jerk much like his son) but what if you were you, with your current thought process, and you suddenly saw your child acting this way? Would your first reaction be to defend him? What would you think of him? Sadly, even though he's obviously in the wrong. There will always be slight biased because he's your son. Alot of parents with kids like the bully, are exactly the same way. I've seen it far too many times. It's disgusting, but reality.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 16, 2011 12:19:45 GMT -5
That' just the difference between you and I good sir. It's cool that you like that we have a difference but I don't know if we do. ammirite?
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