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Post by spamdfms101 on Mar 16, 2011 12:20:08 GMT -5
^ Sorry dude, but I just can't take you seriously anymore. You actually believe that "a simple shove" would have been the better option to go with AFTER getting punched in the face....Wow...Now I know why you were bullied... Haha me? Time out, time out. I said NON VIOLENCE is the solution. I don't particularly agree with a "simple shove" but I agree that it never should've gotten as far as it does. If you want to talk about ME being bullied, I have been a foot taller than everyone else my entire life. I don't have an ounce of patience in situations like that, so there's a big difference between what I would DO if bullied and what I think should be done. My brain goes to a completely different place and I actually used to get pissed when it happened instead of getting calm. The one time a kid older than me pushed my younger brother in 4th grade, I grabbed the kid and threw him into a pricker bush. The one time a kid yelled at me from off his front porch in 2nd grade, I went up to the porch, he punched me in the eye, and I uppercut him over his own railing. The one time a kid stole one of my X-Men cards and I found him walking around with it in his back pocket in 5th grade, I took it from his pocket, threw him down and stomped on his chest. That's elementary school. The one and ONLY time I got close to a fight in high school, as I had learned to be better at making people feel stupid with words by then, was a kid calling me a f****t. My eyes lit up, I went after him and he probably would've ended up in the hospital had a girl who didn't even know what I was charging at stopped me to tell me a joke. There's a difference between how you think a situation should go, and how you will actually react in one. Remember this before making your judgments on me or anyone else here. TOM ANGRY!? WTF! Tom come on man! You're still the man though. And badnewz made some good points. Maybe the dominator was overkill, but it appears as though the kid was being bullied every single day. IDK, I still dont think the dominator was too much. Now if he had continued to kick him while down, then I would probably agree. But I think what was done wasn't overboard.
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Post by johnnydirtbag on Mar 16, 2011 12:22:31 GMT -5
It's cool that you like that we have a difference but I don't know if we do. ammirite? It's cool that you like Del Rio but I don't even like marmite.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Mar 16, 2011 12:30:05 GMT -5
Let me ask you guys this, what would you do as the father of the bully after seeing that video? Most likely we are all completely different people than this guy and I want to stop short of making any judgments of him (even though my first guess is that he's a huge jerk much like his son) but what if you were you, with your current thought process, and you suddenly saw your child acting this way? Would your first reaction be to defend him? What would you think of him? Man, I don't even know. As stated, I would be biased if he were my son, but in no way would I be happy about it or encourage him to fight again. I'd probably say that's just too bad. It's a lesson he learned the hard way. Just DON'T do it again. On a side note, I just read that the bullies parents are planning on pressing charges against the school and Casey's parents.... Um....I'd like to see how well that will pan out for them seeing as their son instigated the attack and assaulted Casey first. If the school and Casey's family DO get charged, that would be an even bigger crime than Casey getting suspended from school. On a lighter note, here's a reaction from the clip. This is gettin' better and better. ;D
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Post by RSCTom on Mar 16, 2011 12:30:20 GMT -5
It's funny you guys mention that. I guess you're right, how could you react to it? I'd almost feel like I failed as a parent, were it me personally. To see my kid out of the blue acting like this, the exact opposite of what I've been telling him, he either has something wrong with him or I'm not giving him enough vitamin c and he's becoming chemically imbalanced, or something.
I suppose it's different when you're already the wrong kind of person in the first place.
I honestly I guess don't know how I would react either!
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 16, 2011 12:34:14 GMT -5
Let me ask you guys this, what would you do as the father of the bully after seeing that video? Most likely we are all completely different people than this guy and I want to stop short of making any judgments of him (even though my first guess is that he's a huge jerk much like his son) but what if you were you, with your current thought process, and you suddenly saw your child acting this way? Would your first reaction be to defend him? What would you think of him? Man, I don't even know. As stated, I would be biased if he were my son, but in no way would I be happy about it or encourage him to fight again. I'd probably say that's just too bad. It's a lesson he learned the hard way. Just DON'T do it again. On a side note, I just read that the bullies parents are planning on pressing charges against the school and Casey's parents.... Um....I'd like to see how well that will pan out for them seeing as their son instigated the attack and assaulted Casey first. If the school and Casey's family DO get charged, that would be an even bigger crime than Casey getting suspended from school. On a lighter note, here's a reaction from the clip. This is gettin' better and better. ;D Well I guess we do agree on something. But everyone knew that it was a matter of time before one party got their lawyers involved. Unfortunately, as usual, it seems to be the party at fault who's seeking legal recourse. I agree though. If Casey or his family face any legal trouble, it will surely be a crime.
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Post by RSCTom on Mar 16, 2011 12:36:10 GMT -5
Haha me? Time out, time out. I said NON VIOLENCE is the solution. I don't particularly agree with a "simple shove" but I agree that it never should've gotten as far as it does. If you want to talk about ME being bullied, I have been a foot taller than everyone else my entire life. I don't have an ounce of patience in situations like that, so there's a big difference between what I would DO if bullied and what I think should be done. My brain goes to a completely different place and I actually used to get pissed when it happened instead of getting calm. The one time a kid older than me pushed my younger brother in 4th grade, I grabbed the kid and threw him into a pricker bush. The one time a kid yelled at me from off his front porch in 2nd grade, I went up to the porch, he punched me in the eye, and I uppercut him over his own railing. The one time a kid stole one of my X-Men cards and I found him walking around with it in his back pocket in 5th grade, I took it from his pocket, threw him down and stomped on his chest. That's elementary school. The one and ONLY time I got close to a fight in high school, as I had learned to be better at making people feel stupid with words by then, was a kid calling me a f****t. My eyes lit up, I went after him and he probably would've ended up in the hospital had a girl who didn't even know what I was charging at stopped me to tell me a joke. There's a difference between how you think a situation should go, and how you will actually react in one. Remember this before making your judgments on me or anyone else here. TOM ANGRY!? WTF! Tom come on man! You're still the man though. Haha it's funny, I never really thought of being "angry" in any of those situations other than the high school one, I was literally just reacting. But I guess I must've been angry in the situation! As an adult, it's certainly different. I can't imagine being in a situation where 3 or 4 grown males wanted to kick my ass, but I'd definitely say I'm less prone to get into a situation. Some doofus in an Affliction shirt was drunk at a bar/club/place-i-dont-belong-in I was at and I literally stepped out of the bathroom to him screaming in my face, calling me a name I didn't hear and kicking me as hard as he could in the leg. It freakin' hurt, but I was more surprised than anything. One of his friends just waved it off at me like "just ignore him," but how do you ignore someone kicking you in the leg? I just kind of got over it. Maybe if I'd heard the name he called me it might've been different as I'm sadly more reactive to words, but at this point I just wouldn't want to be in a position to get arrested, that's the first thing I think nowadays.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Mar 16, 2011 12:57:57 GMT -5
I think we can all stop wondering what WE would have said if the bully was our son. Here's an interview with the bullies mother and even she said he got what he deserved. So there.
I guess the report of them pressing charges must be false. Either that or they changed their minds pretty damn quick...
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Post by RSCTom on Mar 16, 2011 13:08:10 GMT -5
That's pretty interesting. I suppose at the end of the day, I would have been equally unsympathetic to my son. That poor woman is clearly in shock that her own kid could act like that, and that's more or less how I would be as well.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Mar 16, 2011 13:22:06 GMT -5
If only little Ritchard would have listened to Principal Vernon's sound advice:
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Post by K5 on Mar 16, 2011 13:42:50 GMT -5
i wouldn't want my kid going around bodyslamming people though. that's just asking him to get in trouble.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Mar 16, 2011 13:52:04 GMT -5
i wouldn't want my kid going around bodyslamming people though. that's just asking him to get in trouble. Yeah well, I wouldn't want my kid getting punched in the face by some bully either, that's asking for heaps of trouble too. But as the old saying goes, "Sh*t happens". As a good buddy at work once told me, "You gotta do, what you gotta do. Just don't do the doo-doo." ;D
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Post by johnnypoopypants on Mar 16, 2011 14:51:34 GMT -5
^ No offence dude, but it sounds like you are going to be raising a bunch of ing pussies. It sounds like you won't teach them to fight back and stand up for themselves when it is completely neccessary and that will be a major mistake. I agree with you though. Violence is not the only answer. It IS, however, the only answer when you get punched in the face. You've got to do SOMETHING right then and there or else it'll never let up. It'll only get worse. Thankfully, Casey stood up for himself and had enough and squashed the issue, right then and there. That little prick bully won't ever do something like that again. That is pretty much a guarantee. It's different with the bullied kids though...They are the ones that snap and do crazy sh*t, not the bullies themselves. We've seen countless horrific examples of that. The Columbine Massacre, V-Tech Massacre, and the Westroads Mall shooting were all caused due to kids that were bullied and picked on or tormented through school. That's what not standing up for yourself does. It literally fuc*s you up mentally, which makes you snap and go off and do crazy sh*t. You can't deny it. So, you go ahead and raise your kids and tell them it's not ok to fight back when it is neccessary and I'm sure I'll read about what made them snap later on in life. History will repeat itself one more time.... So what does a kid who can't fight back do? What if it's the bigger kid throwing punches at the small kid? Since violence is the only answer in this case...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2011 16:37:54 GMT -5
Wow.
A lot of posts since I last checked this last night.
I'm raising my children the way my father raised me and my brother: Don't cause a fight; if you are provoked, then fight back.
I applaud Casey for what he did. Flight in this case would not have worked, as the bully was insistent on bullying Casey. Was it overkill? I don't think so. After he slammed him down, he walked off. Overkill, imo, would have consisted of kicking the bully while he was down.
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