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Post by LA Times on Feb 8, 2012 21:43:43 GMT -5
 I say Nova and Garcia. Hughes and Burnett for the pen. How can Nova not have a spot in the rotation after going 18-4? |
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Post by BASTARDKING on Feb 8, 2012 22:30:36 GMT -5
I say Nova and Garcia. Hughes and Burnett for the pen. How can Nova not have a spot in the rotation after going 18-4? He went 16-4. I would put him in the 5 spot if I were to make the rotation. I would have it look like this. 1) Sabathia 2) Kuroda 3) Pineda 4) Garcia 5) Nova Just to keep less pressure on the young guns, I wound also slot Pineda for the 3 spot |
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Post by Chip on Feb 9, 2012 11:03:47 GMT -5
is there any reason the Yankees couldn't use a 6 man rotation? at least to start the year.
i hate to leave Hughes out...but you can't put Burnett in the pen
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Feb 9, 2012 12:42:43 GMT -5
Most teams start out with a 4 man rotation at the beginning of the year as they don't need the 5th starter due to the schedule.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 9, 2012 14:26:20 GMT -5
If the Yankees trade A.J. Burnett, I think it would be a HUGE mistake. First of all, you're not going to get anything of value for him, and the move would just be to free up the starting pitching log jam we have, and also a salary dump if they could find some team willing to pick up a percentage of his remaining money.
But the bottom line is that right now, all Burnett would have to do is be the 5th starter. We know he's had a rough tenure in New York so far. He's had two bad seasons in a row mixed in with some great games and some pretty decent Playoff appearances.
But if A.J. Burnett can figure it all out and be the guy he used to be when we faced him and be unhittable A.J. that we haven't seen enough of but he's been a few times....man, I can't think of a better 5th starter in the history of the game.
Imagine of A.J. Burnett pitches like he's capable of and you have a 15+ win 5th starter?
I know it's been rough for A.J and the fans and media are getting restless.....but I just think he's still got too much potential to piss away on a salary dump.
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Post by Chip on Feb 9, 2012 15:10:38 GMT -5
I know what you're saying Lorenzo...but I feel like Yankee fans have been having this convo for the last 3 years. He was a big part of them getting a ring in '09 so I'll thank him for that
But he just seems to have lost all the dominance he had in Toronto.
I don't understand it either but I think at this time, if they could find a low market team that would take him off their hands maybe for a good reliever or even a few prospects while the Yankees eat some of his salary, I'd be fine with him gone.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 9, 2012 15:18:08 GMT -5
Burnett showed what he's capable in the Playoffs last year.
On the chance that Pineda or Nova regress, Garcia can't repeat, Kuroda can't adjust to the AL, or somebody gets injured.....I don't think a team can afford to just cast aside a starting pitcher who has the potential of A.J. Burnett.
You can never have enough starting pitching. People will get hurt. Somebody or multiple guys might have off years......
Burnett's problems are all mental. He has the talent. His talent has never been questioned. His mental toughness is always what is his undoing. He starts every game with no-hit stuff and then one base runner or call he doesn't like happens and he loses his concentration and then here come the walks, past balls, and home runs.
I think as the 5th starter with so much talent around him, it will take the pressure off and he can just relax and let his pitching speak for itself.
I don't think anything we could possibly get in return, or any amount of money off the books would be worth losing what A.J. Burnett could potentially give us.....especially if the worst case scenario happens and we have a season of injuries and we wish we had "one more capable arm" and we'd given away Burnett for nothing.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 9, 2012 15:22:26 GMT -5
AJ Burnett has not "figured it out" for years, its not happening.
Just because he wears pinstripes doesnt mean he doesnt suck
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Feb 9, 2012 17:10:33 GMT -5
The MLB is full of guys who are talented but are complete headcases. Most of them are unemployed. Look at Milton Bradley. Tons of talent. Complete headcase. Unemployed. There are tons of them out there.
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Post by ICW on Feb 9, 2012 17:13:47 GMT -5
There's speculation that Burnett could be traded to the Pirates. Please just do it, Brian.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Feb 9, 2012 19:07:43 GMT -5
Poor Pirates. Then again, he'd be in a low pressure environment where no one really cares if he succeeds or not as the team is not going to be good so it might work out for him.
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Post by Alpha Q Up on Feb 9, 2012 20:36:22 GMT -5
Mike Trout tops the top 100 list again, atta boy.
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Post by BASTARDKING on Feb 9, 2012 20:36:39 GMT -5
There's speculation that Burnett could be traded to the Pirates. Please just do it, Brian. My 2 questions to this are 1) How much of his salary are the Yankees willing to pick up and 2) Who are we going to get in return? I'd imagine some decent level prospects and bench warmers. His value is low right now, that's no secret. |
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Post by Chip on Feb 9, 2012 20:56:25 GMT -5
Burnett showed what he's capable in the Playoffs last year. On the chance that Pineda or Nova regress, Garcia can't repeat, Kuroda can't adjust to the AL, or somebody gets injured.....I don't think a team can afford to just cast aside a starting pitcher who has the potential of A.J. Burnett. You can never have enough starting pitching. People will get hurt. Somebody or multiple guys might have off years...... Burnett's problems are all mental. He has the talent. His talent has never been questioned. His mental toughness is always what is his undoing. He starts every game with no-hit stuff and then one base runner or call he doesn't like happens and he loses his concentration and then here come the walks, past balls, and home runs. I think as the 5th starter with so much talent around him, it will take the pressure off and he can just relax and let his pitching speak for itself. I don't think anything we could possibly get in return, or any amount of money off the books would be worth losing what A.J. Burnett could potentially give us.....especially if the worst case scenario happens and we have a season of injuries and we wish we had "one more capable arm" and we'd given away Burnett for nothing. I know what you mean, I've seen it. I've heard it. It's like he's a completely different pitcher as soon as he lets runners on base. Either he needs to suck it up and stop being a baby...you're not gonna pitch a no hitter every time Burnny boy....or he needs to be in that situation where it's not really important HOW he pitches (ala being a 5th starter) Again, i see him coming out of spring training as the #5 guy either way. i just hope it doesnt hurt any of the other guys along the way. |
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Post by BigShab421 on Feb 9, 2012 22:01:00 GMT -5
There's speculation that Burnett could be traded to the Pirates. Please just do it, Brian. My 2 questions to this are 1) How much of his salary are the Yankees willing to pick up and 2) Who are we going to get in return? I'd imagine some decent level prospects and bench warmers. His value is low right now, that's no secret. Word is it is Burnett for Garrett Jones straight up. As a loyal Pirates fan, I would see this as a steal for the Pirates. Jones CANNOT hit LHP and is inconsistent everynight. I know Burnett has not dominated for the Yanks, but like someone else said, now without Prince, Braun, and Albert in the NL Central, the pressure wouldn't be high, and competition would not be severe. Here's hoping our damned moronic GM can make this work |
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Post by LA Times on Feb 9, 2012 22:31:59 GMT -5
My 2 questions to this are 1) How much of his salary are the Yankees willing to pick up and 2) Who are we going to get in return? I'd imagine some decent level prospects and bench warmers. His value is low right now, that's no secret. Word is it is Burnett for Garrett Jones straight up. As a loyal Pirates fan, I would see this as a steal for the Pirates. Jones CANNOT hit LHP and is inconsistent everynight. I know Burnett has not dominated for the Yanks, but like someone else said, now without Prince, Braun, and Albert in the NL Central, the pressure wouldn't be high, and competition would not be severe. Here's hoping our damned moronic GM can make this work The Yankees have enough 1B/DH types |
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Post by bad guy™ on Feb 9, 2012 23:51:46 GMT -5
AJ Burnett, in a low profile, low pressure situation for Garrett Jones, who is pretty much a HR or bust type of guy at the plate, with serious emphasis on the bust...I'll take it. Corriea, Burnett, Morton, Lincoln (if he can stay healthy), Karstens (who proved last season that he can more than handle being in the starting rotation after replacing Big Ross all season) and Ohlendorf (if he stays healthy) would be an absolutely stellar pitching rotation. Add in McCutchen, Veras, Meek and Hanrahan coming in to close from the pen...if the Pirates can just get McCutchen, Walker and d'Arnaud some help so that the Pirates can actually score some runs when these guys get on base...they may not be able to necessarily knock off the Reds (who have to be the clear cut favorites here in the NL Central at this point) for the division title...but maybe, just maybe, they can stop the bleeding that the Pirates have been suffering since 1992 and ACTUALLY pick up that ever elusive 82nd win this season.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 10, 2012 0:08:19 GMT -5
AJ Burnett would be a steal? Did I read that?
Mike Trout was on top of Keith Laws Top 100, thats one of three major ones. Relax
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Post by Alpha Q Up on Feb 10, 2012 4:31:55 GMT -5
AJ Burnett would be a steal? Did I read that? Mike Trout was on top of Keith Laws Top 100, thats one of three major ones. Relax MLB.com will have him at #1 for a second straight year as well, I don't know if Baseball America will but they voted him Minor League Player of the Year so that's good enough. Just want this kid to be in the big leagues for good, we need him. |
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Post by ICW on Feb 10, 2012 17:09:58 GMT -5
Heyman's sources seem to think Burnett gets traded to the Pirates. I don't even care if the Yanks get anything bad, he's an expendable arm. Hughes, Garcia, Warren, Phelps, Kontos (though I'm not sure he could start), etc... there's plenty of depth.
Trading Burnett frees up some $$$ to retain Eric Chavez and sign one of Damon/Ibanez/Matsui. I think the Yanks really want Damon but we all know he goes where the money is (which, in this case, may not be there from any other team).
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