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Post by irongeek on Apr 19, 2011 11:39:14 GMT -5
Its crazy we are even having this discussion about Rick Martel. he is exactly the type of figure I was hoping for. If Rick Martel isn't a legend and if he is the type of figure they are going to scale back on to focus on the "bigger names" then this line should die, also I really hope we are overreacting and the annoucement is something as simple as future lineups. I would rather this line go exclusively online than to merge with the elite and allstars packs, someone said this is an adult line and I agree 100%, I have no interest in anyting WWE related past 1991, but I think its great to get legends from every era but to merge the legends with non legends like the contemporary stars would be terrible and I for one wouldn't buy a single one. I would rather pay Mattycollector shipping prices then to buy the all star pack and throw the other figure in the garbage. The other funny thing is I know a lot of the young collectors don't know or wouldn't want a Rick Martel figure but I have seen several posts where people are asking for a Tatanka or a mountie figure, If Rick Martel doesn't sell who the hell is going to buy a Tatanka figure? If George the animal Steele and Paul Orndorf are known as "poor choices" maybe I am the only one but having an I.R.S figure over them seems insane. Don't get me wrong I hope they do everybody from the 60s-2000s that is considered a legend but please make this an online exclusive before it turns into a Ultimate Warrior, Randy Savage variant line with b grade legends from the 90s and early 2000s.
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Post by theratking on Apr 19, 2011 12:44:47 GMT -5
I hate to be Mr. Negativity, or the bearer of bad news, but you can pretty much expect this to be bad news.
When Bill says something along the lines of "I'll have a statement on this soon", as opposed to "We'll have some Legends news soon!" or "We'll have some Legends announcements soon", it's going to be bad news.
I'm believing we're seeing the end of Legends. If Legends ends, I'm done with the WWE/Mattel lineup. My wife will be happy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2011 12:53:48 GMT -5
^^same with me. Back to ebay and get me some Jakks Classics to fill my collection.
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Post by megapowerspt on Apr 19, 2011 13:15:48 GMT -5
Its crazy we are even having this discussion about Rick Martel. he is exactly the type of figure I was hoping for. If Rick Martel isn't a legend and if he is the type of figure they are going to scale back on to focus on the "bigger names" then this line should die, also I really hope we are overreacting and the annoucement is something as simple as future lineups. I would rather this line go exclusively online than to merge with the elite and allstars packs, someone said this is an adult line and I agree 100%, I have no interest in anyting WWE related past 1991, but I think its great to get legends from every era but to merge the legends with non legends like the contemporary stars would be terrible and I for one wouldn't buy a single one. I would rather pay Mattycollector shipping prices then to buy the all star pack and throw the other figure in the garbage. The other funny thing is I know a lot of the young collectors don't know or wouldn't want a Rick Martel figure but I have seen several posts where people are asking for a Tatanka or a mountie figure, If Rick Martel doesn't sell who the hell is going to buy a Tatanka figure? If George the animal Steele and Paul Orndorf are known as "poor choices" maybe I am the only one but having an I.R.S figure over them seems insane. Don't get me wrong I hope they do everybody from the 60s-2000s that is considered a legend but please make this an online exclusive before it turns into a Ultimate Warrior, Randy Savage variant line with b grade legends from the 90s and early 2000s. VERY well said.
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Post by Bandalero on Apr 19, 2011 13:32:17 GMT -5
Its crazy we are even having this discussion about Rick Martel. he is exactly the type of figure I was hoping for. If Rick Martel isn't a legend and if he is the type of figure they are going to scale back on to focus on the "bigger names" then this line should die, also I really hope we are overreacting and the annoucement is something as simple as future lineups. I would rather this line go exclusively online than to merge with the elite and allstars packs, someone said this is an adult line and I agree 100%, I have no interest in anyting WWE related past 1991, but I think its great to get legends from every era but to merge the legends with non legends like the contemporary stars would be terrible and I for one wouldn't buy a single one. I would rather pay Mattycollector shipping prices then to buy the all star pack and throw the other figure in the garbage. The other funny thing is I know a lot of the young collectors don't know or wouldn't want a Rick Martel figure but I have seen several posts where people are asking for a Tatanka or a mountie figure, If Rick Martel doesn't sell who the hell is going to buy a Tatanka figure? If George the animal Steele and Paul Orndorf are known as "poor choices" maybe I am the only one but having an I.R.S figure over them seems insane. Don't get me wrong I hope they do everybody from the 60s-2000s that is considered a legend but please make this an online exclusive before it turns into a Ultimate Warrior, Randy Savage variant line with b grade legends from the 90s and early 2000s. VERY well said. But a paragraph or two wouldn't have hurt
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Post by hbkrules on Apr 19, 2011 13:49:25 GMT -5
Its crazy we are even having this discussion about Rick Martel. he is exactly the type of figure I was hoping for. If Rick Martel isn't a legend and if he is the type of figure they are going to scale back on to focus on the "bigger names" then this line should die, also I really hope we are overreacting and the annoucement is something as simple as future lineups. I would rather this line go exclusively online than to merge with the elite and allstars packs, someone said this is an adult line and I agree 100%, I have no interest in anyting WWE related past 1991, but I think its great to get legends from every era but to merge the legends with non legends like the contemporary stars would be terrible and I for one wouldn't buy a single one. I would rather pay Mattycollector shipping prices then to buy the all star pack and throw the other figure in the garbage. The other funny thing is I know a lot of the young collectors don't know or wouldn't want a Rick Martel figure but I have seen several posts where people are asking for a Tatanka or a mountie figure, If Rick Martel doesn't sell who the hell is going to buy a Tatanka figure? If George the animal Steele and Paul Orndorf are known as "poor choices" maybe I am the only one but having an I.R.S figure over them seems insane. Don't get me wrong I hope they do everybody from the 60s-2000s that is considered a legend but please make this an online exclusive before it turns into a Ultimate Warrior, Randy Savage variant line with b grade legends from the 90s and early 2000s. If it was your money at stake I bet you wouldn't produce a Rick Martel figure. Yes I think he is a legend but mattel is in the business of making money and the average wrestling fan has no idea who rick martel is and is certainly not spending $16 to buy his figure. I would personally love a savio vega figure but I would not criticize mattel for not making it just because I want it.
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Apr 19, 2011 14:03:41 GMT -5
Very Well said hbkrules
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Post by juicewinslow on Apr 19, 2011 14:04:38 GMT -5
Yeah if the Legends line is done, I am done with WWE Mattel as well. We'll see what happens.
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Apr 19, 2011 14:14:08 GMT -5
Yeah I Can Understand Where JuiceWinslow is comin from i mean If they flat out just stopped making Legends figs 1) im sure alot of people would stop collecting 2) they would lose a bit of profit and neither of those are good from the stand point of a Collector or bussiness Man or woman
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Post by theratking on Apr 19, 2011 14:25:51 GMT -5
Regardless, leaving us hanging like this is bullshit. They need to tell us, the CUSTOMERS, what the hell is going on.
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Post by theratking on Apr 19, 2011 14:59:08 GMT -5
Oh, and don't get me started on cheaping out and giving us the EXACT SAME FIGURES in the Elite series. Repaints...big deal. At least give us new scans to make it worth the ridiculous 15.99 price tag! Let's look at Elite 10:
Kane- Same figure, new paint on tights. Ted Dibiase- Same figure, new paint on tights. R-Truth- Same figure, new paint on pants.
Half the figures just being repaints is not cool. I'm usually happy with Mattel figures, but they are kinda effing up here. Between this kind of crap, and the treatment of the Legends line.
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Post by candygallows on Apr 19, 2011 15:13:56 GMT -5
Its crazy we are even having this discussion about Rick Martel. he is exactly the type of figure I was hoping for. If Rick Martel isn't a legend and if he is the type of figure they are going to scale back on to focus on the "bigger names" then this line should die, also I really hope we are overreacting and the annoucement is something as simple as future lineups. I would rather this line go exclusively online than to merge with the elite and allstars packs, someone said this is an adult line and I agree 100%, I have no interest in anyting WWE related past 1991, but I think its great to get legends from every era but to merge the legends with non legends like the contemporary stars would be terrible and I for one wouldn't buy a single one. I would rather pay Mattycollector shipping prices then to buy the all star pack and throw the other figure in the garbage. The other funny thing is I know a lot of the young collectors don't know or wouldn't want a Rick Martel figure but I have seen several posts where people are asking for a Tatanka or a mountie figure, If Rick Martel doesn't sell who the hell is going to buy a Tatanka figure? If George the animal Steele and Paul Orndorf are known as "poor choices" maybe I am the only one but having an I.R.S figure over them seems insane. Don't get me wrong I hope they do everybody from the 60s-2000s that is considered a legend but please make this an online exclusive before it turns into a Ultimate Warrior, Randy Savage variant line with b grade legends from the 90s and early 2000s. If it was your money at stake I bet you wouldn't produce a Rick Martel figure. Yes I think he is a legend but mattel is in the business of making money and the average wrestling fan has no idea who rick martel is and is certainly not spending $16 to buy his figure. I would personally love a savio vega figure but I would not criticize mattel for not making it just because I want it. I'd buy a Savio Vega figure
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2011 15:23:07 GMT -5
if i were mattel id still make rick martel and guys from the mid cards but i would use them strategically . I Would go back to 6 per wave, put in around 3-4 Main Event Legends and 2-3 Mid Card Guys Like Martel or Dino Bravo And i would try to make sure every big name was out within the next 3-4 series... We have been waiting a long ass time for news on legends, especially with all the doom speculations. Just release some info already mattel if legends fold on their second year that would just be pathetic, mattels too big of a company not to make something out of it. i expect good news
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Post by theratking on Apr 19, 2011 15:28:26 GMT -5
You miss the point. They are 16 dollar figures....give us a new scan...SOMETHING to make them worth the amount that we're spending.
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Post by irongeek on Apr 19, 2011 15:37:37 GMT -5
hbkrules "If it was your money at stake I bet you wouldn't produce a Rick Martel figure. Yes I think he is a legend but mattel is in the business of making money and the average wrestling fan has no idea who rick martel is and is certainly not spending $16 to buy his figure. I would personally love a savio vega figure but I would not criticize mattel for not making it just because I want it."
First off, its not my money and I don't know what that has to do with anything, I am making an argument that I think he is definitely the type of figure who should be included in this line, along with other legends from other eras. I think a lot of people will agree with that statement even though sales may not prove it. Jakks made it through 20 something waves and made money off inferior figures. If Mattel can't figure out a nice balance of old school and newer type legends maybe they should give the license to some company who can. I am not criticizing mattel for making or not making a figure I am making a point that this line should not turn into a Ultimate Warrior and Randy savage variant line with some B grade 90s or early 2000s legends. I for one and I hope I am not alone on this am hoping for some more of the obscure stars, I saw Tully Blanchard mentioned somewhere and I agree with whoever wrote that. If he is short packed with some bigger names than that's fine too as long as Mattel doesn't just stick to "Strategic" wrestlers and give up on some of the obscure ( and I can't believe I am calling him obscure) figures.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2011 15:43:30 GMT -5
Well , its also for people who only buy in retail and missed say the first cm punk and also keeps mattels cost low so they can keep making money to provide us with more figures. I understand but you can expect too much from them. They said it takes a long time to make a head sculpt
Anyhow, mattel I won't mind if u cancel the legends line but only if u first make, earthquake, typhoon, papa shango, macho king, giant gonzalez, dino bravo, big boss man, one man gang, the hart foundatioion, legion of doom, elite m$m, a purple gloved undertaker, andre, the rockers, more ultimate warriors and macho man figs, hulk hogan, ric flair, razor ramone, warlord, barbarian, crush, hercules, hbk, haku or the islanders, zeus, htm, fuji, greg valentine + others
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Post by JKLMD2002 on Apr 19, 2011 15:50:34 GMT -5
Oh, and don't get me started on cheaping out and giving us the EXACT SAME FIGURES in the Elite series. Repaints...big deal. At least give us new scans to make it worth the ridiculous 15.99 price tag! Let's look at Elite 10: Kane- Same figure, new paint on tights. Ted Dibiase- Same figure, new paint on tights. R-Truth- Same figure, new paint on pants. Half the figures just being repaints is not cool. I'm usually happy with Mattel figures, but they are kinda effing up here. Between this kind of crap, and the treatment of the Legends line. In all fairness to Mattel, they've been pretty good at cranking out different head sculpts for figures. Punk, Morrison, Edge, Orton, Big Show, Sheamus, Triple H, Kofi have had at least two and Cena's had three so far. It just seems like they need to do it more frequently based on the number of Basic assortments. Jakks would go years before changing head scans/sculpts on figures. Some of the problem with the repaints is just that today's stars don't vary up their looks that much anymore. I'm not even the biggest fan of today's WWE, but I can't imagine what else Mattel could really do with the Elites. The price is about $3 too high [as are every figure line now], but at least their figures look like they put effort into them.
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Post by LeighD on Apr 19, 2011 16:01:00 GMT -5
While I don't care for the Mattel WWE product and have stuck to my guns and staying with JAKKS, except for the new Legends JAKKS didn't make in the CS or LOTR line.
Now, I for one would be SHOCKED if Mattel canned the Legends line. My guess is they are changing the line around or doing similar to JAKKS' LOTR figures sprinkled in the DI sets.
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Post by machomadness on Apr 19, 2011 17:22:28 GMT -5
The line isnt doomed or finished and anyone that thinks so is silly. Proof will be given sooner then you expect.
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Post by dmoney on Apr 19, 2011 17:28:52 GMT -5
The line isnt doomed or finished and anyone that thinks so is silly. Proof will be given sooner then you expect. How can you be so sure?
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