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Post by PVA on Apr 19, 2011 17:29:56 GMT -5
I agree with the masses; Gotta keep making the "obscure" legends. While those are more niche guys, the people/collectors who want them will more likely buy multiples (loose + MOC, etc).
Mattel has done a fine job with the Legends/DM IMO; could of used a few more bigger names in the first couple waves to help bring initial interest. However; the cancellation of the ring, followed by the push back release of L6 and now the silence with an "announcement" soon to be can understandably be alarming.
So, yeah keep the Legends line alive and well, don't overproduce the lesser guys but DO make them. Also, don't over saturate the market with repaints/variants of Macho, Warrior,etc. Though I do want and will buy other attires from them if done right.
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Post by PVA on Apr 19, 2011 17:31:17 GMT -5
The line isnt doomed or finished and anyone that thinks so is silly. Proof will be given sooner then you expect. How can you be so sure? One sign is that they just signed a bunch legends recently. Why finally sign Diesel, Bret Hart,etc only to kill the wave.
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Post by mikey1974 on Apr 19, 2011 17:32:44 GMT -5
they do need to space out the variants of the "Big guys" more,though....
after not having any new WWF Macho Man figures since 1993,i've now received 3 different ones since December.... space em out some more!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2011 17:51:34 GMT -5
Personally I would think a line of all top talent would be kind of boring, I like the less obscure guys, I've always rooted for the underdogs, some of my favs have been earthquake, warlord, barbarian, gonzalez. Not world champ guys but lots of character, and I can't wait till matty makes these guys. I don't think the announcement should be anything to worry about, obvs mattel isn't sitting on the edge of their seats like us , but man I wish they knew how much we need some news.
Bill told me he would have a statement soon and honestly I almost wish he didn't cuz now I've been checking the board a dozen Times a day looking for this announcement. I just hope he comments on the future of the line and puts everyones minds at ease , the worst thing that can come out of this is we have more questions than answers at the end of the day
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Apr 19, 2011 17:52:14 GMT -5
The Rick Martel figure in Legends 5 is one of the best figures ever made IMO. Its a perfect figure and a perfect addition to the legends line. Mattel knows they are going after the adult collectors with this...without guys like Martel the line would just be a bunch of repaints and not worth collecting IMO
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Post by irongeek on Apr 19, 2011 17:59:01 GMT -5
^^ right on the money, I am with willywilderbeast!
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Post by kevinandrewc on Apr 19, 2011 18:34:02 GMT -5
I'm hoping for line up announcements. It would be even better if we could get series 7 and 8 in our hands before the end of the summer.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Apr 19, 2011 18:45:53 GMT -5
I agree with the masses; Gotta keep making the "obscure" legends. Thing is, that's not what the masses are saying. It's a view popular among some people on this messageboard, but it obviously hasn't translated to the view of the average potential consumer. If the masses were into obscure legends and costumes, the line wouldn't have been reduced to four per series.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2011 18:48:52 GMT -5
Personally I don't get the hate for martel, if were talking about poor choices I vote funk and pillman
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Post by The Assassin on Apr 19, 2011 18:52:34 GMT -5
as I said earlier on this topic, if mattel were to do a extensive legends survey containing hundreds of superstar names, us collectors could then vote on who we want. the results would give a clear indication which superstars are most wanted by collectors in the legends line, and will help mattel decide which legends to release and in what quantity.
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Post by Chip on Apr 19, 2011 19:00:01 GMT -5
Why can't the announcement just be the next couple of series'? That's all I need. 5 figures per set going forward. Rockers being released in Series 7? Or the announcement could be that Bret Hart is officially going to be in a Legends set? or could be that Andre the Giant figure which was supposed to come with the RSR is going to be in a regular Legends set (hopefully)? I don't understand some people on this board...Mattel guy says "Legends announcement soon" and everyone thinks the line is ENDING? ? I want ALL Legends to be represented. I want Mattel to make a line similar to Jakks with the same variety of stars, but in different attires (when possible) so I can have an amazing collection of the Superstars from our past Bring on Undertaker, Bring on HHH, Bring on The Killer Bees, Bring on The Nasty Boys...I want them ALL!
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Post by kevinandrewc on Apr 19, 2011 19:01:11 GMT -5
as I said earlier on this topic, if mattel were to do a extensive legends survey containing hundreds of superstar names, us collectors could then vote on who we want. the results would give a clear indication which superstars are most wanted by collectors in the legends line, and will help mattel decide which legends to release and in what quantity. First, this would have to be a huge survey taking a long time to complete. It would have to have us measure our willingness to buy on a sliding scale (1-10), not just a yes or no. And imagine if they asked, "Do you want a Sgt Slaughter?" How many people would answer yes but then be highly disappointed when he comes out in a white top and blue pants? So you would have to ask about attires, too. Even after all of that, who is to say they could sign everyone we want most at the beginning? Then people would complain, "Why are they releasing Giant Gonzalez when we clearly want Big Boss Man?" Not to be a Negative Nancy, but I don't think the logistics of a massive survey would work. Nor would it help Mattel clearly see what they should make.
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Post by LeighD on Apr 19, 2011 19:41:28 GMT -5
One sign is that they just signed a bunch legends recently. Why finally sign Diesel, Bret Hart,etc only to kill the wave. WWE signed them on to Legends deals, not specifically for Mattel's WWE Legends line. There is a difference
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Post by kevinandrewc on Apr 19, 2011 19:52:14 GMT -5
One sign is that they just signed a bunch legends recently. Why finally sign Diesel, Bret Hart,etc only to kill the wave. WWE signed them on to Legends deals, not specifically for Mattel's WWE Legends line. There is a difference Actually, Mattel already announced Bret Hart, and Bill from Mattel alluded to Diesel coming by the end of 2011.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Apr 19, 2011 19:57:22 GMT -5
WWE signed them on to Legends deals, not specifically for Mattel's WWE Legends line. There is a difference Actually, Mattel already announced Bret Hart, and Bill from Mattel alluded to Diesel coming by the end of 2011. Man...those figures are gonna be sick! I hope we get Hitman in his 1994 "splatter" outfit..with the wwf championship belt, leather jacket & sunglasses For Big Daddy Cool...I want either the 1994 IC champ diesel (with shorter mullet) or 1996 with the silver top and hair in a pony tail. Both with leather vest
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2011 19:58:21 GMT -5
despite all the fear of the line being cancelled i have 100% faith it will NOT be cancelled. And i could write out why 1000 times but all it takes is one person to say 'the announcement will be a cancellation' and it whips people in a frenzy.
Soon bill will post and let us know whats going on in the line and the speculation will end (hopefully) . im just freakin excited hoping he announces some line ups soon.... Mattel Elites are the most detailed, scaled, and accurate figures ive ever seen and when i hear someone i wanna buy is being made i mark out cuz i know it'll be true to the character and as a bonus will come w all or most of the accessories that character sported
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Apr 19, 2011 20:02:26 GMT -5
Like I said before, I wouldn't be surprised if the line dies. I would be very disappointed, though. If they do kill it, I will sell off all of my Legends, because there really aren't enough to warrant a collection. Worse, I still don't have my Hogan or Andre. If the line dies here, I would call it a huge failure. I am really glad Martel made it, and I would love an Earthquake, POP, and so many others that I may be in the minority for. Besides, we need David Von Erich if nothing else. What about all the Savage attires they promised? What about Andre? I admit, I feared after the cancellation of the Legends ring with Andre that the line might be in trouble. I hope that they tell us flat out, if it is ending or not.
I recant my earlier statement that I would be fine with Legends being sprinkled in with Elites. People on the board have said that it is more than likely that the legends in the Elite series would be guys like Michaels, Hunter Hearst Helmsley, Classic Taker, Classic Big Show, Classic Jericho, Classic Christian. These are all figures that I would not buy.
If it ended now, I would see it as a premature consent to defeat. Not even one wave of the four-figure Legends has hit retail yet. Lets wait and see how it turns out before just giving up. Of course, it doesn't matter what wonderful ideas are developed in this thread. Whatever the announcement is, the decision is made and there is nothing we can do about it, just like the bases, just like the raises in price. No matter how much the decision sucks, no matter how many people say that they are done with Mattel, the wheels are probably already in motion. Lets hope they didn't opt to cut their noses off to spite their faces.
I would just like to reiterate, despite the last 3 sentences of the last paragraph, if Legends go to Mattycollector.com exclusives, I will never buy another one.
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Post by theratking on Apr 19, 2011 20:03:13 GMT -5
The key word is statement. Not NEWS. Not ANNOUNCEMENT.
A Statement. Statement is not good. That is what Bill said, yes?
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Apr 19, 2011 20:06:14 GMT -5
Bill come on...you see how big this thread is getting...whats going on lol
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Post by kevinandrewc on Apr 19, 2011 20:12:04 GMT -5
I guess "very soon" is a relative term.
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