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Post by Classic Collector: The Return on May 7, 2011 17:24:59 GMT -5
With all the "Owen's wife doesn't want WWE to make any money off of Owen's likness" stuff we hear you'd think WWE and/or Mattel would work something out to benifit the fans and make an Owen figure with no WWE name on package (just a simple redesign of the current package) and donate the WWE's revenue portion of that figure to a charity. I mean at some point, they should put the fans interest ahead of the WWE.
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Post by azraelms on May 7, 2011 17:53:29 GMT -5
Mattel has the rights to make anyone that is currently on the roster, or anyone that is signed to a Legends contract, which pretty much means virtually anyone that they have had on their roster before. I may be mistaken, but I also believe that starting somewhere in the 90s there was a clause in the contracts allowing WWE to forever use their likeness and image as it was during the time of their contract. So yeah, virtually anyone that was in the WWE can be made, plus anyone else that signs a Legends deal, or a special deal with Mattel. The only ones off the table 100% are Benoit and Owen, and even Owen would be possible down the road is his wife Martha would ever agree.
Although regarding Owen, I think a lot of the hurdle is that it would be advertised as Owen. If they made a generic 'Masked Wrestler' with an Owen head and removable mask, they could probably still do that, although that is ia grey area.
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Post by ratedextreme on May 7, 2011 17:55:22 GMT -5
i think even though wwe owns owen hart copyright..they dont want to spend more money with lawyers,defending it with owens wife
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2011 18:30:54 GMT -5
Probably the main one we will mostly never see made that most people wants is Owen Hart, I know why we are not getting an Owen Hart due to his Wife but I have never understand why. I take Martha Hart's point that the WWE should not benefit from Owen but why would She not want that legacy celebrated and remembered. Owen Hart was one of the greatest wrestlers ever in my opinion and had been in so many excellent matches over his career and built up an amazing legacy, Owen Hart had so many fans all over the world including myself who would love to have an Owen Hart figure in their collection alongside their other favourites, Or even an Owen DVD with his greatest matches but because of her all his hard work is slowly being forgotten to the point where probably a lot of new fans probably don't even know who Owen Hart is which is so sad as he deserves to be remembered as one of the all time greatest wrestlers not someone who can never be mentioned again. Is that what Owen would of really wanted to have all his hard work almost forgotten about. If she really doesn't want anything to do with the WWE again couldn't she at least allow TNA to produce a legends line figure of him. She couldn't possibly have anything against Jeff Jarrett or Dixie Carter as Jeff and him used to be the Tag Team champions together, If not for her but at least for Owen's fans.
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Post by sunglassessteve on May 7, 2011 19:10:04 GMT -5
I think they should make a Beniot. I'd like to have one of him in my collection. Not really sure what demographic Mattel would push the figure of a man who murdered his wife and child before taking his own life to. Of course, had that rather inconvenient series of events happened, I'd also be all for a Benoit. LOL HAHAHAHAHA dude, your funny for sure. haha maybe they will start a serial killers line down the road lol
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Post by mrhoss on May 7, 2011 19:20:27 GMT -5
I think there's a big difference when someone dies of natural causes and the way Owen died. I don't blame his wife at all.
I know this is going to be unpopular but I think the figure fans are in revisionist history mode. Toward the end of his life Owen was reduced to a comedy wrestler who had to place himself in a stupid gimmick that led to his death in an attempt to get over. How far up the card was he on that night? I honestly can't remember and I don't even feel like Googling it. The show did go on. Do you think his wife carries a grudge? I just hope you guys want him for the right reason.
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Post by King Silva on May 7, 2011 20:16:42 GMT -5
Owen would be cool to have made but Benoit can be left off for all I care..
I just hope they make Lita and some other women legends that Jakks didn't release classics [or RAs] of.
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Post by Neos on May 7, 2011 20:19:17 GMT -5
I wished we could get a Benoit...
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Post by Doomrider on May 7, 2011 20:27:56 GMT -5
I doubt we'll ever see a Phantasio figure.
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Post by juicewinslow on May 7, 2011 20:32:51 GMT -5
I doubt we'll ever see a Phantasio figure. Probably not. lol.
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Post by myaddow on May 7, 2011 20:35:04 GMT -5
Wasn't there an interview or Q & A that stated DX was off limits?
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Post by ratedextreme on May 7, 2011 20:52:17 GMT -5
I doubt we'll ever see a Phantasio figure. how the hell you remember him? is beyond me
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2011 20:58:49 GMT -5
ya i remember hearing dx was off limits too, i also remember someone saying before martha didnt want her kids to have to see owen merchandise everywhere they went.
either way, Its a Downright Shame! i would love a King of Harts Owen Hart figure , He's Definetly in my Top 5 ....
Too Bad mattel couldnt strike up an Exclusive Where Half the Profits went to the Harts and the Other half was just Mattel...
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 7:31:38 GMT -5
I think there's a big difference when someone dies of natural causes and the way Owen died. I don't blame his wife at all. I know this is going to be unpopular but I think the figure fans are in revisionist history mode. Toward the end of his life Owen was reduced to a comedy wrestler who had to place himself in a stupid gimmick that led to his death in an attempt to get over. How far up the card was he on that night? I honestly can't remember and I don't even feel like Googling it. The show did go on. Do you think his wife carries a grudge? I just hope you guys want him for the right reason. I don't know what you mean by wanting Owen Hart for the right reason, The reason I want a figure of him is because I was always a fan of him from his matches in Canada, Japan and WWF and as I enjoy collecting figures I feel a huge part of that collection is missing with the lack of one of my favourite wrestlers Owen Hart, I also feel a little sad that he should be remembered as one of the greatest wrestlers ever but a few years from now there probably wont even be many people left that knows who he is. Owen Hart was already over he didn't need any stupid gimmicks to get over he always a had a bit of comedy in his gimmicks he used in the WWF and the Blue Blazer character was only a return to who he was when he first started in the WWF. As for Chris Benoit I was a huge fan of Benoit before but now I can't even watch one of his matches and think it would be in bad taste to make a Chris Benoit figure.
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Post by D.B.K. on May 8, 2011 7:33:59 GMT -5
Benoit and Owen
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Post by popyduggan on May 8, 2011 7:49:36 GMT -5
J,E, double F, J,A, double R, E, double T. Jeff Jarrett.
Also, any foul-play-death wrestler who could hurt the McMahons politically.
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Post by Hemme-TNA on May 8, 2011 7:51:11 GMT -5
Y O K O Z U N A !!!
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Post by mrhoss on May 8, 2011 8:51:15 GMT -5
I don't know what you mean by wanting Owen Hart for the right reason, The reason I want a figure of him is because I was always a fan of him from his matches in Canada, Japan and WWF and as I enjoy collecting figures I feel a huge part of that collection is missing with the lack of one of my favourite wrestlers Owen Hart, I also feel a little sad that he should be remembered as one of the greatest wrestlers ever but a few years from now there probably wont even be many people left that knows who he is. Owen Hart was already over he didn't need any stupid gimmicks to get over he always a had a bit of comedy in his gimmicks he used in the WWF and the Blue Blazer character was only a return to who he was when he first started in the WWF. As for Chris Benoit I was a huge fan of Benoit before but now I can't even watch one of his matches and think it would be in bad taste to make a Chris Benoit figure. You sound like a real fan. Some people take a morbid interest in things. I don't want people buying a Blue Blazer figure and going, "Hey, look it's the guy who died in the ring. Let's buy one." The way Owen died has a lot to do with it, at least for me. I don't know if I could buy a Blue Blazer figure. BTW, After Eddie Guerrero, I couldn't even use his character in the videogames for a long time.
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Post by MachoManiac on May 8, 2011 9:22:47 GMT -5
btw owen was going to win the IC title that night may23rd 99 a2 kemper arena in kansas Over the Edge on PPV.. never 4get
hulk is possible.. if martha's lawyers gave an OK, then it could..
i do believe there is already one solid name (NOT BENOIT thats abvious) wwe told mattel not to create.. a mattel rep mentioned it here and claimed it surprised him.. i figured maybe Razor Ramon, due to his crazy lifestyle and extreme danger to sadly die in a manner that may be media unfriendly!
ne1 else remember when the mattel rep mentioned this..?
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Post by ratedextreme on May 8, 2011 16:03:33 GMT -5
what? since when does a mattel rep speak??? this is news to me...
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