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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2011 9:40:15 GMT -5
I'm just curious to know what they're explanation is for Megan Fox not being in this. Did they say they broke up or something? Seems really awkward to have them as a couple for the first two films then all of a sudden there's a new girl... \ They literally just drop a few lines throughout the movie about her breaking up with him, that's the extent of it. So had she not been fired, I'm sure the movie would've been exactly the same, just swapping one girl for the other. yep you do get that feeling.Dylan could easily have been Mikelas boss and into her etc etc.RHW was just stepping into a really interchangeable role. Wheelie mentions that Mikela dumped Sam.....but the parents seem to think Sam was to blame. |
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Post by Franky4Fingers on Jul 3, 2011 12:09:12 GMT -5
i'd love to see this series get a reboot and go with G1 designs...i'm showing my age again huh? lol People don't actually realize how terrible true G1 designs would look in live action. Those block models would not translate well from a cartoon to a live action film, it'd be a debacle. And why reboot it? This franchise is a license to print money, why risk letting it go? Because you don't like the designs? Yeah, that's a great reason.... i'd rather it be computer animated, i mean if they went live action for it i'd agree i'm sure. might work as a period piece with the designs though. also, you're jumping to conclusions, i never said anything bad about the series. i'll admit i don't care for the series, but i never said a negative thing. i'll let the transformers fans do that since i lack the fanatical devotion . i'll say this though, you get no argument from me that the current series is making money, i mean personally i don't care for much of anything bay does, but he'd definitely made the studio money. |
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Post by MacReady on Jul 3, 2011 12:23:04 GMT -5
People don't actually realize how terrible true G1 designs would look in live action. Those block models would not translate well from a cartoon to a live action film, it'd be a debacle. And why reboot it? This franchise is a license to print money, why risk letting it go? Because you don't like the designs? Yeah, that's a great reason.... i'd rather it be computer animated, i mean if they went live action for it i'd agree i'm sure. might work as a period piece with the designs though. also, you're jumping to conclusions, i never said anything bad about the series. i'll admit i don't care for the series, but i never said a negative thing. i'll let the transformers fans do that since i lack the fanatical devotion . i'll say this though, you get no argument from me that the current series is making money, i mean personally i don't care for much of anything bay does, but he'd definitely made the studio money. Well that's your right, it's obvious his movies aren't for everyone at all. Look at it this way, you'll always have the 86 movie to fall back on! ;D Speaking of, I think I'll pop the DVD in at some point this weekend!  |
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Post by Franky4Fingers on Jul 3, 2011 12:29:12 GMT -5
i'd rather it be computer animated, i mean if they went live action for it i'd agree i'm sure. might work as a period piece with the designs though. also, you're jumping to conclusions, i never said anything bad about the series. i'll admit i don't care for the series, but i never said a negative thing. i'll let the transformers fans do that since i lack the fanatical devotion . i'll say this though, you get no argument from me that the current series is making money, i mean personally i don't care for much of anything bay does, but he'd definitely made the studio money. Well that's your right, it's obvious his movies aren't for everyone at all. Look at it this way, you'll always have the 86 movie to fall back on! ;D Speaking of, I think I'll pop the DVD in at some point this weekend! thanks for understanding. i will say this for bay, what he lacks in plot and characterization he makes up for with eye candy. you may see the most unbelievable explosion in one of his movies[ hell, all of his movies] but it's damned pretty. he can make some interesting over the top sequences that ooze awesome if you are into it. |
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Post by Tye Hyll on Jul 3, 2011 12:31:02 GMT -5
why do people go see Bay movies expecting anything else? its intellectually- disabled, im not going to go to a Lady gaga concert and expect a death metal show
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Post by brianregan09 on Jul 3, 2011 12:35:49 GMT -5
I thought honestly it was the best of the three it was overly long and a lot of the parts with sams parents weren't needed at all and just distracted from the plot really
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Post by Franky4Fingers on Jul 3, 2011 12:41:25 GMT -5
why do people go see Bay movies expecting anything else? its intellectually- disabled, im not going to go to a Lady gaga concert and expect a death metal show lol. thank you. |
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Post by MacReady on Jul 3, 2011 12:47:47 GMT -5
why do people go see Bay movies expecting anything else? its intellectually- disabled, im not going to go to a Lady gaga concert and expect a death metal show I don't think people expect anything else, or at least they shouldn't. Bay movies are nothing but blockbusters, plain and simple. |
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Post by Jamal on Jul 3, 2011 12:48:20 GMT -5
why do people go see Bay movies expecting anything else? its intellectually- disabled, im not going to go to a Lady gaga concert and expect a death metal show Exactly. People complaining about the story line weren't paying attention in the first 2 movies. |
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Post by Tye Hyll on Jul 3, 2011 13:02:22 GMT -5
It just annoys me when people complain about a director for doing what they are known for.
"Too many explosions in this michael bay film"
"Too cartoony looking in the Snyder film"
"Too goth in this Burton film"
People should look at directors like they do anything else and then the dissapointment levels would go down.
I expected explosions, i got explosions. I is happy.
When I want a cool story driven action movie I'll wait for Nolan's next flick.
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Post by MacReady on Jul 3, 2011 13:06:21 GMT -5
It just annoys me when people complain about a director for doing what they are known for. "Too many explosions in this michael bay film" "Too cartoony looking in the Snyder film" "Too goth in this Burton film" People should look at directors like they do anything else and then the dissapointment levels would go down. I expected explosions, i got explosions. I is happy. When I want a cool story driven action movie I'll wait for Nolan's next flick. Thank you for that.  |
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Post by Franky4Fingers on Jul 3, 2011 13:45:55 GMT -5
It just annoys me when people complain about a director for doing what they are known for. "Too many explosions in this michael bay film" "Too cartoony looking in the Snyder film" "Too goth in this Burton film" People should look at directors like they do anything else and then the dissapointment levels would go down. I expected explosions, i got explosions. I is happy. When I want a cool story driven action movie I'll wait for Nolan's next flick. my issue is when they they let the one thing they shine at become the focal point though. i mean let's take bay for instance. he can make a damned cool explosion, but he can't tell a interesting story to save his life. he takes no risks and sticks to the one thing he excels at. this bugs me because he could possibly be a good director if he took the risk. just so it doesn't look like i'm solely picking on bay, snyder, who's had a few movies i have enjoyed, really crapped the bed with sucker punch. he allowed his eye for style and flare, which he excels at to override his ability to tell a good story. anyhow, what i'm trying to say is one trick ponies don't do it for me, and that's ok. not every movie has to be amazing and i should accept that. i just feel every director should reach for the brass ring on both fronts. that make sense? |
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Post by Tye Hyll on Jul 3, 2011 14:50:01 GMT -5
If you dont like one trick ponys you options are...
Steven Spielberg.
Not everyone can be as good as him. No one expects music artists to be versatile in many genres. I feel the same for directors. Plus when dealing with MILLIONS of dollars taking a risk isn't worth it at all. Watch indy films for risks.
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Post by hbkjason on Jul 3, 2011 15:05:34 GMT -5
I really loved the first transformers and despite the really bad reviews I liked the 2nd one too, but this one while it was ok there was just something off I don't know if it was because I saw it in 3D and after about a hour I had a pounding headache which I think was maybe from the 3D glasses. I liked it but I would rank it 3rd out of the 3 but at the same time I think it may be the kind of movie I enjoy more the 2nd time round.
I really want to see this again as I think the 3d may be the main reason I never really got into this as I was really looking forward to it. When I was talking about it with my brother and he asked what it was I did not like about it I really could not give a answer.
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Post by Franky4Fingers on Jul 3, 2011 15:10:29 GMT -5
If you dont like one trick ponys you options are... Steven Spielberg. Not everyone can be as good as him. No one expects music artists to be versatile in many genres. I feel the same for directors. Plus when dealing with MILLIONS of dollars taking a risk isn't worth it at all. Watch indy films for risks. i don't expect a rock star to also have a reggae hit, but i expect them to play more than the same song over and over. also, millions or dollars or not, crap is crap. but as long as people look at it as good enough, they aren't gonna strive to be better. |
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Post by Tye Hyll on Jul 3, 2011 15:16:07 GMT -5
My argument was most people complain about the style of the director not the actual film quality itself. Every director should strive to make the best possible product but for them to switch up the style is really a hard thing to do for any artist. Plus corporations have so much control on movies the scale of Transformers its ridiculous.
The story may have been weak and cheesy at points but you have got to remember, though it does have its appeal to older people the whole franchise is geared towards kids so if its over there head you lost the target audience.
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Post by Franky4Fingers on Jul 3, 2011 15:32:23 GMT -5
My argument was most people complain about the style of the director not the actual film quality itself. Every director should strive to make the best possible product but for them to switch up the style is really a hard thing to do for any artist. Plus corporations have so much control on movies the scale of Transformers its ridiculous. The story may have been weak and cheesy at points but you have got to remember, though it does have its appeal to older people the whole franchise is geared towards kids so if its over there head you lost the target audience. ah ok, i see you. i'll be frank with you, i'm not a transformers fan at all and i'm only 25. i am a movie fan though. i strongly believe it's every directors job to push the boundaries of their skill, and yes i can agree it's hard to throw a curve ball when you are used to throwing a breaker, but when you become complacent in your job, the job suffers. also, i understand that they are marketing towards a younger market, but that doesn't mean the movie has to be bad, i mean look at the 2d animated disney movies for example. made for kids/teens but made enjoyable for almost all. just so were clear, i'm not implying a transformers movie should share anything besides quality with a disney movie. but none of this matters, because like you said, the corporations have their hands on it. they are more concerned by their bottom line than the artistic merit. |
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Post by Tye Hyll on Jul 3, 2011 16:01:02 GMT -5
No one can argue Disney is the king of kids movies. There stuff is top of the line thats why there stuff is stellar quality for all age groups.
It sucks but most franchises are just to make money not to make a good film, just look at 3D, it's honestly not very good at all and even makes most people sick or eye strained yet the tickets are still triple there value. The video game industry is starting to follow the same suit. I actually hate how the movie industry is right now and that is oddly why i want to get in it, to see how far I can go with being independent. Worked wonders for George Lucas.
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Post by T R W on Jul 3, 2011 22:10:14 GMT -5
I saw it today. I thought 1 was ok, better than I expected. I thought 2 was awful. 3 was kind of awful, but sort of entertaining. Honestly, it's like they gave a 13 year old kid $200 million and said, hey, make your dream movie. Unfortunately, I'm easily entertained enough. I think one of my biggest problems, aside from the awful dialogue, is that you can't tell what the  is happening. They usually are panned in too close on the robots, so I can't tell if I am looking at their head or their ass. They fill the entire screen most of the time, and it's hard to see. The only robots I can tell apart are Bumble Bee, Optimus, and Sentinel Prime. |
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jul 3, 2011 22:22:50 GMT -5
I think if Megan Fox was in this, the storyline might be a bit different, I dont think you can make another movie with her wavering her love for Sam.
Its a moot point, it was a tiny part of the movie.
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