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Post by becausethenight on Jul 14, 2011 20:38:29 GMT -5
He's broke, isn't he?
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Post by Rob on Jul 14, 2011 20:55:55 GMT -5
Gotta say it, Cena is destroying Rock in this fued.
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Post by awesomeallamerican on Jul 14, 2011 21:02:09 GMT -5
Gotta say it, Cena is destroying Rock in this fued. Lol I don't get this. All Cena ever says is how Rock brings it via satellite. It wasn't funny the first time and it isn't funny now. The Rock can own Cena on the mic in person, via satellite, or on the  ing moon, it really doesn't matter where he is. He's simply miles better than Cena in terms of being an entertainer. |
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Post by Likwid[[Southern]] on Jul 14, 2011 21:27:16 GMT -5
All Cena needs to say is that Rock only brings it via satellite.
Rock can go on-and-on about Fruity Pebble, You Can't Chee Me, Wonder Woman all he wants. But, Rock did leave the company he "loved."
Hypocrite.
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Post by AONI on Jul 14, 2011 21:45:56 GMT -5
And for the record, I don't think that Rock loves the business. Does he love the people? Sure because they made him. He obviously loves performing. But I don't think he loves wrestling. As a man with potentially endless resources he could use, it's honestly shocking that he hasn't done anything to at least plant his roots into the business that he "loves". No training schools, no helping with other promotions elswhere, no helping younger guys get started in some way. Now there's still time for him to do these sorts of things. But most guys who hang up the boots but don't want to let go of wrestling end up planting seeds somewhere. thats him helping out at another promotion/ training school... and about all this "the people made him" BS, fans HATED him when he debuted as Rocky Maivia. Rocky Maivia transformed into The Rock because he had to. the people didnt give him the charisma, the athleticism, or the work ethic. that all came from Dwayne Johnson. Dwayne Johnson made himself into what he is, not the fans. as for helping younger wrestlers, what do you think hes doing now with Cena? or would you he join the Nexus like Ric Flair did with Evolution? or join TNA with Hogan and Bischoff? or take over Matt Strikers job on NXT? you people will NEVER be pleased with anything he does because youre still not over the fact that he left wrestling for Hollywood. which by the way, ANY wrestler would if theyd be able to be as successful as The Rock was. |
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Post by awesomeallamerican on Jul 14, 2011 22:21:10 GMT -5
All Cena needs to say is that Rock only brings it via satellite. Rock can go on-and-on about Fruity Pebble, You Can't Chee Me, Wonder Woman all he wants. But, Rock did leave the company he "loved." Hypocrite. Do you guys need to have this beaten into your heads before you understand it? The Rock clearly has two passions: wrestling and acting. In terms of wrestling, The Rock accomplished everything he could have possibly dreamed of, so when the opportunity to try his hand at acting came about, he took it, just like anyone would. Now that he has accomplished a lot as an actor, he's coming back to give back to the fans who supported him as a wrestler. As he said, he isn't doing it for the money. He already has more money than any of us could dream of. He's doing it because he loves wrestling, and just because he loves something else equally as much, it doesn't give you the right to call him a hypocrite. |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jul 14, 2011 22:28:33 GMT -5
And for the record, I don't think that Rock loves the business. Does he love the people? Sure because they made him. He obviously loves performing. But I don't think he loves wrestling. As a man with potentially endless resources he could use, it's honestly shocking that he hasn't done anything to at least plant his roots into the business that he "loves". No training schools, no helping with other promotions elswhere, no helping younger guys get started in some way. Now there's still time for him to do these sorts of things. But most guys who hang up the boots but don't want to let go of wrestling end up planting seeds somewhere. thats him helping out at another promotion/ training school... and about all this "the people made him" BS, fans HATED him when he debuted as Rocky Maivia. Rocky Maivia transformed into The Rock because he had to. the people didnt give him the charisma, the athleticism, or the work ethic. that all came from Dwayne Johnson. Dwayne Johnson made himself into what he is, not the fans. as for helping younger wrestlers, what do you think hes doing now with Cena? or would you he join the Nexus like Ric Flair did with Evolution? or join TNA with Hogan and Bischoff? or take over Matt Strikers job on NXT? you people will NEVER be pleased with anything he does because youre still not over the fact that he left wrestling for Hollywood. which by the way, ANY wrestler would if theyd be able to be as successful as The Rock was. I stand corrected on that portion of my argument. But I offer you this. Where would Rock be if the people straight up didn't care about him. Many wrestlers say it. Love or Hate, their job is still being done as long as they're drawing an emotion from the crowd. The people DID make The Rock. Without their hatred, he wouldn't be who he is. And furthermore, without their adoration, he'd be nowhere near the mega star he is today. Liek it or not. The people make EVERYONE you see step in that ring. Weather it be for better or for worse. And my first point still stands. Cena's still right about what he said. It's not that I'm not pleased because to be honest, I couldn't have cared less if he came back. So don't lump me in with whatever group you're trying to create here. My point was that no one would even be mad if he hadn't painted "Lifer" on his forehead and turned around to do the exact opposite. That's the bottom line. People can say "well he doesn't have to do this and that to prove his love" all they want. I even agree with some of it. But to say he isn't a hypocrite and that Cena is absolutely right is just ignoring what is, or isn't there. |
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Post by AONI on Jul 14, 2011 22:47:06 GMT -5
thats him helping out at another promotion/ training school... and about all this "the people made him" BS, fans HATED him when he debuted as Rocky Maivia. Rocky Maivia transformed into The Rock because he had to. the people didnt give him the charisma, the athleticism, or the work ethic. that all came from Dwayne Johnson. Dwayne Johnson made himself into what he is, not the fans. as for helping younger wrestlers, what do you think hes doing now with Cena? or would you he join the Nexus like Ric Flair did with Evolution? or join TNA with Hogan and Bischoff? or take over Matt Strikers job on NXT? you people will NEVER be pleased with anything he does because youre still not over the fact that he left wrestling for Hollywood. which by the way, ANY wrestler would if theyd be able to be as successful as The Rock was. I stand corrected on that portion of my argument. But I offer you this. Where would Rock be if the people straight up didn't care about him. Many wrestlers say it. Love or Hate, their job is still being done as long as they're drawing an emotion from the crowd. The people DID make The Rock. Without their hatred, he wouldn't be who he is. And furthermore, without their adoration, he'd be nowhere near the mega star he is today. Liek it or not. The people make EVERYONE you see step in that ring. Weather it be for better or for worse. And my first point still stands. Cena's still right about what he said. It's not that I'm not pleased because to be honest, I couldn't have cared less if he came back. So don't lump me in with whatever group you're trying to create here. My point was that no one would even be mad if he hadn't painted "Lifer" on his forehead and turned around to do the exact opposite. That's the bottom line. People can say "well he doesn't have to do this and that to prove his love" all they want. I even agree with some of it. But to say he isn't a hypocrite and that Cena is absolutely right is just ignoring what is, or isn't there. and i see circles in our future |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jul 14, 2011 22:52:07 GMT -5
I stand corrected on that portion of my argument. But I offer you this. Where would Rock be if the people straight up didn't care about him. Many wrestlers say it. Love or Hate, their job is still being done as long as they're drawing an emotion from the crowd. The people DID make The Rock. Without their hatred, he wouldn't be who he is. And furthermore, without their adoration, he'd be nowhere near the mega star he is today. Liek it or not. The people make EVERYONE you see step in that ring. Weather it be for better or for worse. And my first point still stands. Cena's still right about what he said. It's not that I'm not pleased because to be honest, I couldn't have cared less if he came back. So don't lump me in with whatever group you're trying to create here. My point was that no one would even be mad if he hadn't painted "Lifer" on his forehead and turned around to do the exact opposite. That's the bottom line. People can say "well he doesn't have to do this and that to prove his love" all they want. I even agree with some of it. But to say he isn't a hypocrite and that Cena is absolutely right is just ignoring what is, or isn't there. and i see circles in our future I see us agreeing to disagree instead of going in circles. |
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Post by extreme on Jul 15, 2011 0:04:30 GMT -5
Cena says the same thing over and over.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jul 15, 2011 0:27:45 GMT -5
Are you kidding me man? So a wrestler can't love the business if they leave? That's ridiculous...he loved it, which is why we did it for all of those years. But the man has other interests, other dreams, one being acting...so just because he left to follow another dream means he can't still love wrestling? That's really ignorant of you or anyone else to say. Why do you think he came back? For the money? Obviously not, it's because he loves wrestling, he just needed some time to develop his other dream of being an actor. You or anyone else saying that once you are a wrestler, you have to stay a wrestler for life and can never do anything else is disgusting...he did everything he wanted to do in this business up to that point, so he decided to do something else...and that doesn't mean that he loses his right to love this business. People like you that deny him that right piss me off. I feel like anyone who brings up your argument is completely misunderstanding what's trying to be said. No one(with good sense) has a problem with Rock leaving for Hollywood. I don't even have a poblem with him making movies. I like him as an actor. The problem that wrestling fans have with Rocky, is that he continues to patronize us. It's to the point where it's quite insulting. A good percentage of people would NOT be complaining about him if he didn't go on and on and on and on about how he's never leaving again. It's a very simple concept. Don't say you're NEVER leaving again, when you clearly intend to. He doesn't have to show up every week. But for him to be involved in a so called feud with a guy in the company, a feud that the company is FULLY endorsing none the less, and not be around nearly at all is not going to go over well with most people. Nor should it. Cena keeps driving the same point home, but he's right. When you're in a fight, you find a hole in you opponent's game, and you hammer that sucker out until he drops to the mat. Cena's doing that to perfection. Cena's clearly winning this war of words with Rocky. CM Punk's words towards Cena ring more true than anything the Rock has said since day one. And for the record, I don't think that Rock loves the business. Does he love the people? Sure because they made him. He obviously loves performing. But I don't think he loves wrestling. As a man with potentially endless resources he could use, it's honestly shocking that he hasn't done anything to at least plant his roots into the business that he "loves". No training schools, no helping with other promotions elswhere, no helping younger guys get started in some way. Now there's still time for him to do these sorts of things. But most guys who hang up the boots but don't want to let go of wrestling end up planting seeds somewhere. Thank you. |
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Post by MX5 on Jul 15, 2011 0:45:47 GMT -5
he's coming back to give back to the fans who supported him as a wrestler. What has he given us, really? A twenty minute promo, a 6 minute appearance at Wrestlemania, and arguably the worst RAW of the year. This far into this "feud" he's not given anything. This is a completely unbiased opinion. I'm not saying he should show up every week and I really don't care if he does. |
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Post by AONI on Jul 15, 2011 3:20:20 GMT -5
and i see circles in our future I see us agreeing to disagree instead of going in circles. AGREED...in the interest of time |
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Post by King Clayton of the MidWest on Jul 15, 2011 4:25:58 GMT -5
My vote goes for The Rock.
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Post by wabarrett on Jul 15, 2011 5:15:38 GMT -5
I feel like anyone who brings up your argument is completely misunderstanding what's trying to be said. No one(with good sense) has a problem with Rock leaving for Hollywood. I don't even have a poblem with him making movies. I like him as an actor. The problem that wrestling fans have with Rocky, is that he continues to patronize us. It's to the point where it's quite insulting.
A good percentage of people would NOT be complaining about him if he didn't go on and on and on and on about how he's never leaving again. It's a very simple concept. Don't say you're NEVER leaving again, when you clearly intend to. He doesn't have to show up every week. But for him to be involved in a so called feud with a guy in the company, a feud that the company is FULLY endorsing none the less, and not be around nearly at all is not going to go over well with most people. Nor should it.
Cena keeps driving the same point home, but he's right. When you're in a fight, you find a hole in you opponent's game, and you hammer that sucker out until he drops to the mat. Cena's doing that to perfection. Cena's clearly winning this war of words with Rocky. CM Punk's words towards Cena ring more true than anything the Rock has said since day one.
And for the record, I don't think that Rock loves the business. Does he love the people? Sure because they made him. He obviously loves performing. But I don't think he loves wrestling. As a man with potentially endless resources he could use, it's honestly shocking that he hasn't done anything to at least plant his roots into the business that he "loves". No training schools, no helping with other promotions elswhere, no helping younger guys get started in some way. Now there's still time for him to do these sorts of things. But most guys who hang up the boots but don't want to let go of wrestling end up planting seeds somewhere. Really well said. |
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Post by awesomeallamerican on Jul 15, 2011 10:06:39 GMT -5
he's coming back to give back to the fans who supported him as a wrestler. What has he given us, really? A twenty minute promo, a 6 minute appearance at Wrestlemania, and arguably the worst RAW of the year. This far into this "feud" he's not given anything. This is a completely unbiased opinion. I'm not saying he should show up every week and I really don't care if he does. Well, I'm not sure if you've heard, but he's giving us a ing WrestleMania match. |
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Post by Eat Defeat. on Jul 15, 2011 10:36:52 GMT -5
Cena says the same thing over and over. |
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Post by Mr.GT on Jul 15, 2011 10:49:12 GMT -5
Honestly, During this Cena/Punk feud...I really couldn't have given two shits about the Rock/Cena match.
So they can banter back and forth, wake me up next year when this bitching actually matters.
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Post by @3CountRadio on Jul 15, 2011 14:52:48 GMT -5
Here's the thing...
You can say that Cena says a lot of the same things, but it's true. If the Dwayne can't take the fact that Cena keeps busting his balls, maybe he shouldn't have promised to "never-ever leave", then split immediately after WrestleMania.
The Dwayne doesn't have to show up every night, or every week. But, I think he should at least come to Raw once in a while, and not a Raw where it was basically "Fellate Dwayne Night".
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Jul 16, 2011 18:19:00 GMT -5
Just watched The Rock's promo.
Damn, that was awesome. Cena got tore apart and basically everything The Rock said is true.
I'm not going to name names, and I certainly don't want to appear like I'm looking down from my high horse, but some of these anti-Rock messages are ridiculous.
If some of you guys owned WWE, Rock (a returning legend) would be here every week and working programmes with guys like Ziggler. LMAO. Way to poop on the prestige of his Wrestlemania match, fellas.
So silly.
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