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Post by King Silva on Jan 4, 2012 0:06:59 GMT -5
^ Yeah I don't think he will continue on.
The people who got less votes than him need to follow suit..
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Post by Kliquid on Jan 4, 2012 0:09:26 GMT -5
Changed the title of the topic to fit the caucus, since everyone's posting in here about it anyway.
Rick Santorum did well. I honestly have no idea how. It makes very little sense that he came THAT far out of no where to win. That said, Newt Gingrich experienced a very similar rocket up into the top spot months ago, with Cain before him, Perry before him, Bachmann before him.
I am disappointed that Paul didn't win tonight, but I am not heartbroken over it, nor do I believe it's anywhere near being the end of the campaign. He still came in very strong with 22% of the vote, he earned a solid number of the delegates and his support remains much stronger than any other candidate, with the only real consistent opposition being Romney.
I fully expect Santorum's popularity to fall off in the coming weeks. If it doesn't happen, I'll just grin and bare it as the Republican party will have elected another puppet to unsuccessfully run against Obama.
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Post by eljefe on Jan 4, 2012 0:14:52 GMT -5
Honestly, I would take Santorum over Romney. If it came down to those two, come the Illinois primary, I'd vote for Santorum. And I might take Paul over Santorum. But, I think there is ONE turn-off with republicans and Ron Paul. His foreign policy. I'm fine with not wanting to initiate wars. Actually, I agree with that. But, Paul is an "isolationist", and wants nothing to do with ANY other country in the world. Something you can't do in today's world.
But I digress.
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Post by Kliquid on Jan 4, 2012 0:15:58 GMT -5
Honestly, I would take Santorum over Romney. If it came down to those two, come the Illinois primary, I'd vote for Santorum. And I might take Paul over Santorum. But, I think there is ONE turn-off with republicans and Ron Paul. His foreign policy. I'm fine with not wanting to initiate wars. Actually, I agree with that. But, Paul is an "isolationist", and wants nothing to do with ANY other country in the world. Something you can't do in today's world. But I digress. Well that's not true. Isolationists would be opposed to foreign trade. Ron Paul is the polar opposite of that. |
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Post by Boy Wonder on Jan 4, 2012 0:24:35 GMT -5
POOP
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Post by extreme on Jan 4, 2012 0:26:24 GMT -5
wow, it's extremely close between Romney and Santorum.
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Post by Adam on Jan 4, 2012 0:29:43 GMT -5
Honestly, I would take Santorum over Romney. If it came down to those two, come the Illinois primary, I'd vote for Santorum. And I might take Paul over Santorum. But, I think there is ONE turn-off with republicans and Ron Paul. His foreign policy. I'm fine with not wanting to initiate wars. Actually, I agree with that. But, Paul is an "isolationist", and wants nothing to do with ANY other country in the world. Something you can't do in today's world. But I digress. Peace and diplomacy is not isolationism. |
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Post by slappy on Jan 4, 2012 0:30:09 GMT -5
If Santorum wins anything more and happens by some luck to win the Presidency (which I don't think he will) then he must be the one to lead the charge into Iran himself. He must be on the front line.
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Post by Kliquid on Jan 4, 2012 0:37:57 GMT -5
Ron Paul May Have Just Secretly Won IowaRon Paul may have officially come in third in tonight's Iowa caucuses, but if his organizational strategy went off as planned, it is possible that the Texas Congressman is actually the real winner of the state's Republican nominating contest. Senior advisors for Paul's coalitions team told Business Insider this week that the campaign's organizational strategy was focused not only on getting as many votes as they can, but in making sure that their volunteers stuck around after the voting to make sure that they were nominated as delegates to the county's Republican convention — the first step towards being appointed as a delegate to the Republican National Convention. That's because Iowa's Republican caucuses are actually non-binding — it's technically just a straw poll. The only thing that will get Paul's — or any other candidate's — Iowa supporters to Tampa next year is if they stuck around and volunteered, or were elected, as delegates. Sydney Hay, a senior advisor, said Monday night indicated that she was confident Paul's supporters would blow opponents out of the water when it came to the important delegate vote, adding that she has spent the last few weeks criss-crossing the state to ensure Paul's voters knew exactly what to do when the caucuses rolled around. Read more: www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-winner-iowa-caucuses-strategy-201201#ixzz1iStEYl5W------------------------ If anyone needs me to explain this, I can. The caucus system is weird and stupid... But it probably benefits Paul more than anyone. ------------------------ A quicker breakdown: campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/did-ron-paul-just-win-iowa/289986
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Post by spearjack24 on Jan 4, 2012 0:43:27 GMT -5
personal marital issues are different than a hate mongering racist church like Obammy went to especially when we are at war due to HATE! That has alot more to do with politics than someones personal marital problems. So you trust Gingrich's ideas of things like Family values given his track record? Divorce is such a common thing right now that its not that much of a Family Values issue. Someone's personal marital issue isnt as important as his goals for our country. Especially with our economy the way it is...someones marital issues are nothing! |
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Post by slappy on Jan 4, 2012 0:46:02 GMT -5
Why am I just now finding out that Rick Santorum was a lawyer for the WWF(E)?
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Jan 4, 2012 0:48:39 GMT -5
So you trust Gingrich's ideas of things like Family values given his track record? Divorce is such a common thing right now that its not that much of a Family Values issue. Someone's personal marital issue isnt as important as his goals for our country. Especially with our economy the way it is...someones marital issues are nothing! Hypocrite, really all I have to say. Remember those lovely words of "Iowa determines the loser", eat em up Fox News. |
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Post by slappy on Jan 4, 2012 0:49:52 GMT -5
99% in and Santorum is winning by 5 votes.
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Post by spearjack24 on Jan 4, 2012 0:51:49 GMT -5
ITS A TIE SANTORUM AND ROMNEY! Santorum is 10 votes ahead of Romney.
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Post by spearjack24 on Jan 4, 2012 0:56:58 GMT -5
Divorce is such a common thing right now that its not that much of a Family Values issue. Someone's personal marital issue isnt as important as his goals for our country. Especially with our economy the way it is...someones marital issues are nothing! Hypocrite, really all I have to say. Remember those lovely words of "Iowa determines the loser", eat em up Fox News. How is he a hypocrite? |
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Post by Adam on Jan 4, 2012 8:52:57 GMT -5
He was leading the charge to get Clinton impeached for having an affair while having an affair at the same time. He also thinks he can go on about how gay marriage ruins the sanctity of marriage, couldn't possibly be people like him who have cheated on two of his wives right?? |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jan 4, 2012 9:21:35 GMT -5
Official results are Romney beating Santorum by 8 votes. I still say this is a huge win for Santorum. Whether he can capitalize on it or not remains to be seen. Paul hoping his supporters get nominated as delegates so they can vote for him even though they're promised to some other candidate is a complete BS strategy and one of the many reasons why the GOP as a whole does not and will not support Paul. He does not play well with others in his own party.
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Post by eljefe on Jan 4, 2012 11:15:04 GMT -5
 Relevant information: Iowa Caucus = stupid. |
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Post by Kliquid on Jan 4, 2012 11:58:56 GMT -5
Official results are Romney beating Santorum by 8 votes. I still say this is a huge win for Santorum. Whether he can capitalize on it or not remains to be seen. Paul hoping his supporters get nominated as delegates so they can vote for him even though they're promised to some other candidate is a complete BS strategy and one of the many reasons why the GOP as a whole does not and will not support Paul. He does not play well with others in his own party. No one is promised anything. The "straw poll" is just that - a straw poll. It even says that in the official caucus agenda. All of the nominees are doing it. Trust me. All of them. I told you guys that they'd be doing this before and that caucuses will favor Ron Paul even if he doesn't win the straw polls. Go back and look. |
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Post by slappy on Jan 4, 2012 11:58:58 GMT -5
Bachmann is out of the race.
Romney won with 30,015 votes. In 2008 he got 30,021 votes. So nearly everyone that voted for him 4 years ago voted for him this year. That's just sad and does not bode well for Willard.
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