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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 4, 2012 13:59:01 GMT -5
Paul defecting from the party would only serve to prove what he has been accused of over and over again - not being a true Republican.
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Post by Fleet Foxes on Sept 4, 2012 21:18:52 GMT -5
NBC released clips of the Ron Paul interview on Leno and Paul stated that *spoiler* 1. He will not endorse any presidential candidate. 2. He will not run 3rd party. 3. He needs to rest to "prepare for 2016"--could be tongue in cheek or referring to the spreading of the liberty message to the voters for 2016 elections. www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/clip/1415484 |
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 4, 2012 22:09:33 GMT -5
Michelle Obama just made Ann Romney look like a robot!
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Post by Tim of thee on Sept 4, 2012 22:34:50 GMT -5
Paul defecting from the party would only serve to prove what he has been accused of over and over again - not being a true Republican. as opposed to... say, mitt romney? |
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 4, 2012 23:28:35 GMT -5
Ron is on right now <3
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 5, 2012 22:57:46 GMT -5
Bill Clinton killed it tonight! True and fact-filled speech to nominate our Commander In Chief....I CANNOT WAIT for the President to speak and accept the nomination!
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 6, 2012 0:11:34 GMT -5
Bill Clinton killed it tonight! True and fact-filled speech to nominate our Commander In Chief....I CANNOT WAIT for the President to speak and accept the nomination! Good  in god. LMAO |
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 6, 2012 1:03:17 GMT -5
Funny? I don't see a factual speech as a comedy routine. Now Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney's speeches, on the other hand.... Bill Clinton on the RNC: "In Tampa, the Republican argument against the President's re-election was pretty simple. 'We left him a total mess. He hasn't cleaned it up fast enough, so fire him, and put us back in."
"Republican economic policy QUADRUPLED the national debt within the 12 years before I took office in 1993. And it DOUBLED the debt within 8 years after I left. All because it defied arithmetic."
"We simply cannot afford to give the reigns of government to someone who will double-down on trickle down!"
"The main goal of the Republican party was not putting Americans in jobs, it was putting President Obama OUT of a job."
And that last one they even said themselves. They were quoted as saying their number one goal was to make sure that President Obama was a one-term President. Nice way to look out for the country, huh? They sat back AND BLOCKED President Obama on every single policy he introduced. The Republicans cannot block his attempts to fix things, and then turn around and be the first to bash him for his "failures". The old addage goes "You can't have your cake and eat it too." Republicans accusing President Obama of not creating jobs, is like Lucy accusing Charlie Brown of not kicking the football. And here's something from Elizabeth Warren, senatorial candidate in MA. "No, Governor Romney, corporations are not people. People have hearts, they have kids, they get jobs, they get sick, they cry, they dance. They live, they love, and they die. And that matters. That matters because we don't run this country for corporations, we run it for people." — Elizabeth Warren   |
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 6, 2012 1:24:55 GMT -5
NEWSFLASH: BILL CLINTON ISN'T RUNNING FOR PRESIDENTBarack Obama is, and he has been ing terrible on economic policy, ing terrible on foreign policy and ing terrible on liberty. him. Mitt Romney too.
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Post by robinsonben36 on Sept 6, 2012 1:57:33 GMT -5
NEWSFLASH: BILL CLINTON ISN'T RUNNING FOR PRESIDENTBarack Obama is, and he has been ing terrible on economic policy, ing terrible on foreign policy and ing terrible on liberty. him. Mitt Romney too.  Shh! |
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 6, 2012 2:34:15 GMT -5
NEWSFLASH: BILL CLINTON ISN'T RUNNING FOR PRESIDENTBarack Obama is, and he has been ing terrible on economic policy, ing terrible on foreign policy and ing terrible on liberty. him. Mitt Romney too. Cussing and big bold capital letters doesn't get your point across any more than talking like a civilized human being does. I know many other people here have been over this with you. And no crap Bill Clinton isn't running for President. But everything he said about the man that IS running for President is true. You cannot argue against one thing he said, you have ZERO valid points. |
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 6, 2012 3:03:49 GMT -5
you have ZERO valid points. Really? Obama isn't terrible on economic and foreign policy? He's not terrible on civil liberty? Please, do explain, Mr. Expert who listens to DNC-approved speeches from Bill Clinton for your political information. |
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 6, 2012 10:22:36 GMT -5
I sure as hell will take what Bill Clinton says over what anything thay anyone even remotely associated to the Republican party has to say. Bill Clinton did the best job running this country in I don't even know how long. Sorry for only being 4 years old when he took office and not knowing anything 22 years ago , but looking back now and realizing just how great he was. Don't forget that he turned in 8 annual budget reports and 4 of them were balanced at a $0 Federal Defecit. Or a positive one. I listened to Romney's joke of a speech last week. You wanna talk about comedy routines, watch that. Meanwhile, I - along with the other adults - will be listening to the cold, hard facts presented by Bill Clinton. DNC-approved speech or not, is really a mute point. Pres. Clinton was supposed to talk for 28 minutes. He spoke for 48 minutes and more than half his speech came from the his head. No teleprompter needed for facts. And I now include this quote. From The Maddow Blog, for your reading enjoyment. And here. pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/what-has-obama-done-since-january-20-2009.htmlA list of things that President Obama has done towards making our country better. As it was worded it, the unheralded and under-appreciated accomplishments from the first term of a President who was left with, HANDS DOWN, the biggest mess any President had been left with since FDR inherited The Great Depression. |
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 6, 2012 11:28:35 GMT -5
Being better than Mitt Romney is not some amazing feat. Mitt Romney is a complete lying, flip-flopping bunghole. That "list of things Obama has done" is FULL of things that are terrible. For example.... 1. Executive Orders circumvent the entire governmental process. If this was such a great idea (and maybe it is), it should have gone through Congress. Using Executive Order to implement something in a non-emergency is absurd and the height of arrogance. George W. Bush did this as well. Terrible policy. 7. Just like Bush's "stimulus" package, Obama's stimulus package caused massive inflation and increased the federal debt. 8. I sure hope that the stimulus package did SOMETHING to the economy (temporarily). Otherwise it would've been an even bigger failure than it was. 9. How the is TARP a good thing? 11. The "creation of more jobs" is political talk used to make people think that there is some amazing work going on. In reality, the unemployment rate has taken a dramatic turn for the worst since Obama went into office. I'm not saying that this is entirely due to Obama, but the fact is that LESS people are employed now than they were before.  12. The auto bailout inflated our currency and despite the government owning over 1/4 of the company's stock, GM is headed for bankruptcy again. GM stock has lost 49% of its value relative to the Dow since the government got involved. How is this good?GM will go bankrupt again and what? We'll have to bail them out again? Then Obama can put that on his list of great things he's done? OH BOY! THE FEDERAL RESERVE FINANCED THE DEBT OF A FAILING MEGA-CORPORATION AND USED "JOBS" TO GUILT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING IT WAS FOR THE BEST! Guess what - ANY business can be "saved" temporarily by throwing massive amounts of cash at it. That doesn't mean it's GOOD for the economy. 21. $1.1 Trillion... And yet, the world economy is significantly worse now than it was before. HOW IS THIS GOOD? ... And those objections come while looking at about 5% of this list. Yet you come at me with, "YOU DON'T HAVE ANY VALID POINTS." Oh, I do. I'm full of valid points. Both Obama and Romney will propel the economic collapse of this country. |
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 6, 2012 11:46:46 GMT -5
Agreed, Mr. Steele.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2012 12:59:08 GMT -5
NEWSFLASH: BILL CLINTON ISN'T RUNNING FOR PRESIDENTBarack Obama is, and he has been ing terrible on economic policy, ing terrible on foreign policy and ing terrible on liberty. him. Mitt Romney too. Cussing and big bold capital letters doesn't get your point across any more than talking like a civilized human being does. I know many other people here have been over this with you. I agree with this more than anything lol. |
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Post by J12 on Sept 6, 2012 13:12:07 GMT -5
I've got a lot of respect for President Clinton. I'm watching his speech from last night right now. It's good, don't get me wrong, but I'm not buying into it. Just like I wasn't buying into the Republican jargon last week.
I will say, though, the once facet that I absolutely agree with him on, and side with the Democrats in general on, is the idea that the Republican party's sole purpose in this election is to make sure Obama isn't the President anymore. That is their only interest. I don't think they even really care whether or not they have a viable candidate who makes sense, so long as he isn't Obama. They've proven that consistently by absolutely refusing compromise every step of the way of the last four years.
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 6, 2012 13:36:59 GMT -5
I've got a lot of respect for President Clinton. I'm watching his speech from last night right now. It's good, don't get me wrong, but I'm not buying into it. Just like I wasn't buying into the Republican jargon last week. I will say, though, the once facet that I absolutely agree with him on, and side with the Democrats in general on, is the idea that the Republican party's sole purpose in this election is to make sure Obama isn't the President anymore. That is their only interest. I don't think they even really care whether or not they have a viable candidate who makes sense, so long as he isn't Obama. They've proven that consistently by absolutely refusing compromise every step of the way of the last four years. Agreed completely. |
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 6, 2012 13:54:29 GMT -5
I've got a lot of respect for President Clinton. I'm watching his speech from last night right now. It's good, don't get me wrong, but I'm not buying into it. Just like I wasn't buying into the Republican jargon last week. I will say, though, the once facet that I absolutely agree with him on, and side with the Democrats in general on, is the idea that the Republican party's sole purpose in this election is to make sure Obama isn't the President anymore. That is their only interest. I don't think they even really care whether or not they have a viable candidate who makes sense, so long as he isn't Obama. They've proven that consistently by absolutely refusing compromise every step of the way of the last four years. Agreed completely. Oh I see. But when I made mention to that....TWICE......you failed to acknowledge that. You acknowledge negativity in this race, all because your boy Ron Paul didn't get the Republican nomination. Idk about you, but I - like MANY other people I know - are MUCH better off than we were 4 years ago when Bush was f*cking us in the ass. When Bush was President, I was only ever able to find part-time minimum wage jobs, where I struggled paycheck to paycheck. Since President Obama's been in office, I've had 3 full-time jobs at $10+ per hour. And I don't live check to check. I'm doing pretty damn good. And it's because of President Obama, who looks out for the middle class. Sure as hell was NOT the Republicans with the best interest of billionaires and corporate subsidies as their focus. |
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 6, 2012 14:01:11 GMT -5
When the did I fail to acknowledge that the Republican party's only stance is "GET RID OF DAT OBAMA?" Haven't I been saying that since like February? Give me one example of how George W. Bush's policy toward corporations was different than Barack Obama's, which directly led to a better economic situation for the country. I'm not defending Bush, but both he and Obama are corporate whores. The two of them have given out TRILLIONS of dollars to corporations. YOUR PERSONAL situation is, as statistics show, not the same thing as much of America. |
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