hitman1072
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Post by hitman1072 on Nov 3, 2012 13:19:15 GMT -5
Why Romney didn't pick this guy for VP is beyond me. He didn't pick him for the VP, because Paul Ryan is much more qualified, and is actually a conservative. Ryan destroys Christie in every category. Well, maybe not pie eating contests... |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 3, 2012 13:31:32 GMT -5
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Post by nexusagainstus on Nov 3, 2012 13:32:58 GMT -5
And Obama isn't? This is a pretty one-sided statement. You can find just as many Obama jokes and hate that you can for Romney. Hell, you have millions of people who think Obama is a muslim communist, and other rediculous claims that they make about the guy. I don't agree with this. I can't find the article at the moment, but I saw a study recently where they found that Romney was the butt of jokes like two or three times more than Obama was. In fact Republicans were far more likely to be the butt of jokes than Democrats were. I would never listen to some article of some biased "study". It's pretty simple logic. The amount of Democrats and Republicans in the country are pretty close to one another. If you think that one makes fun of the other, more than the other, than I would say you are pretty naive. |
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Post by nexusagainstus on Nov 3, 2012 13:36:32 GMT -5
So because late night talk show hosts make more jokes about Romney and Republicans as opposed to Obama and Democrats, that constitutes that the whole country follows suite? No. And how can you say it isn't biased when most late night talk show hosts are in favor of the Democratic party? |
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Post by nexusagainstus on Nov 3, 2012 13:39:46 GMT -5
Why Romney didn't pick this guy for VP is beyond me. He didn't pick him for the VP, because Paul Ryan is much more qualified, and is actually a conservative. Ryan destroys Christie in every category. Well, maybe not pie eating contests... I'm pretty sure Christie was denying that he would accept the VP spot as soon as the media started suggesting it. I'm pretty content with Paul Ryan, but I think Marco Rubio would have been the most ideal choice. Anything is better than Sarah Palin, and Joe Biden for that matter. |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 3, 2012 13:48:46 GMT -5
So because late night talk show hosts make more jokes about Romney and Republicans as opposed to Obama and Democrats, that constitutes that the whole country follows suite? No. And how can you say it isn't biased when most late night talk show hosts are in favor of the Democratic party? The media bias is there. The numbers prove it. That's all I'm saying. |
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Post by nexusagainstus on Nov 3, 2012 13:55:17 GMT -5
So because late night talk show hosts make more jokes about Romney and Republicans as opposed to Obama and Democrats, that constitutes that the whole country follows suite? No. And how can you say it isn't biased when most late night talk show hosts are in favor of the Democratic party? The media bias is there. The numbers prove it. That's all I'm saying. I'm not denying the numbers you presented. Like I said, you know most of these guys sway to the left, so of course they are going to make jokes. But your original post said that more people on the internet make Romney the butt of all jokes. And like I said, both guys get made the butt of jokes from both side and I don't think it's really fair to say that one gets it any more than other. You have a large amount of people who hate Romney(many of which don't even have legitimate reasons, they just follow what BO says) and then you have a large amount people who hate Obama, many who have hated him for the last 5 years since he emurged into the spotlight. |
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Post by spearjack24 on Nov 3, 2012 13:59:33 GMT -5
So because late night talk show hosts make more jokes about Romney and Republicans as opposed to Obama and Democrats, that constitutes that the whole country follows suite? No. And how can you say it isn't biased when most late night talk show hosts are in favor of the Democratic party? The media bias is there. The numbers prove it. That's all I'm saying. I agree, but most are ignorant to it because they are on the msm biased side. You've gotta be totaly brain-dead to see that it isn't biased. The MSM makes it that way. |
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Post by nexusagainstus on Nov 3, 2012 14:07:52 GMT -5
The media bias is there. The numbers prove it. That's all I'm saying. I agree, but most are ignorant to it because they are on the msm biased side. You've gotta be totaly brain-dead to see that it isn't biased. The MSM makes it that way. Pretty much this. I also don't see how anyone can think that Barack Obama is going to have an easy win come Tuesday. You have to factor in that some of his suppoorters from 4 years ago are either not voting, or are voting for Romney this time around, where as anyone who voted for McCain 4 years ago is definitely going to vote for Romney this time. This election truely is Carter/Reagan all over again. Even the way the media is covering it and the polls this close is almost identical. I truely think Romney will definitely win the popular vote, and I think he will either slightly win the Electoral vote, or completely blow out and win it by a landslide. But maybe I'm wrong. I hope we know come Tuesday night/early Wednsday morning because I would hate to see another Bush/Gore where we have to wait forever to find out who wins. |
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Post by spearjack24 on Nov 3, 2012 14:23:48 GMT -5
I agree, but most are ignorant to it because they are on the msm biased side. You've gotta be totaly brain-dead to see that it isn't biased. The MSM makes it that way. Pretty much this. I also don't see how anyone can think that Barack Obama is going to have an easy win come Tuesday. You have to factor in that some of his suppoorters from 4 years ago are either not voting, or are voting for Romney this time around, where as anyone who voted for McCain 4 years ago is definitely going to vote for Romney this time. This election truely is Carter/Reagan all over again. Even the way the media is covering it and the polls this close is almost identical. I truely think Romney will definitely win the popular vote, and I think he will either slightly win the Electoral vote, or completely blow out and win it by a landslide. But maybe I'm wrong. I hope we know come Tuesday night/early Wednsday morning because I would hate to see another Bush/Gore where we have to wait forever to find out who wins. I hope you're right, with the slight win going to Romney, but I just don't see it happening. There are too many people out there that don't know the real facts and are voting due to color of skin or popularity. Like in 2008 they had a record number of blacks and young voters in that election than ever before in Presidential Election history. I can sadly see that happening again. |
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Post by robinsonben36 on Nov 3, 2012 14:39:47 GMT -5
There are more jokes about Romney than Obama because Romney is really unlikable and Obama is very likable. To me, if there's any media bias, it slants much further to the right. FOX News is the loudest and most influential political machine in the country, and they're embarrassingly biased towards the Republican party. MSNBC is trying to copy that model, except leaning just as far to the left, but they aren't nearly as influential as FOX.
And I don't see a long-term history of bias in the rest of the media, especially on comedy. The most visible Republican leaders have just been much easier to make fun for the past decade-plus.
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Post by robinsonben36 on Nov 3, 2012 14:44:30 GMT -5
I also don't see how anyone can think that Barack Obama is going to have an easy win come Tuesday. You have to factor in that some of his suppoorters from 4 years ago are either not voting, or are voting for Romney this time around, where as anyone who voted for McCain 4 years ago is definitely going to vote for Romney this time. I don't agree with that at all. I'll be surprised if the voting isn't relatively close, but I think it'll be a larger margin than Bush vs. Kerry. I've thought Obama has had it won since Romney was the nominee. |
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Post by spearjack24 on Nov 3, 2012 14:52:20 GMT -5
There are more jokes about Romney than Obama because Romney is really unlikable and Obama is very likable. To me, if there's any media bias, it slants much further to the right. FOX News is the loudest and most influential political machine in the country, and they're embarrassingly biased towards the Republican party. MSNBC is trying to copy that model, except leaning just as far to the left, but they aren't nearly as influential as FOX. And I don't see a long-term history of bias in the rest of the media, especially on comedy. The most visible Republican leaders have just been much easier to make fun for the past decade-plus. "To me, if there's any media bias, it slants much further to the right"...WHAT?!?!? Yes they are biased; I'm not going to argue that, but come on!!! Clearly the big 4 Networks (CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN) are more biased to the left because they have more viewers than FOX. You don't hear them downing the president, you don't hear them praising or talking positive about Romney. They always praise Obama, and never have anything negative to say about him. They point out everything they think is wrong with the GOP and everything they think is right about the LIBS. You need to paying more attention to the slant of the networks and the msm. |
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Post by robinsonben36 on Nov 3, 2012 15:13:12 GMT -5
There are more jokes about Romney than Obama because Romney is really unlikable and Obama is very likable. To me, if there's any media bias, it slants much further to the right. FOX News is the loudest and most influential political machine in the country, and they're embarrassingly biased towards the Republican party. MSNBC is trying to copy that model, except leaning just as far to the left, but they aren't nearly as influential as FOX. And I don't see a long-term history of bias in the rest of the media, especially on comedy. The most visible Republican leaders have just been much easier to make fun for the past decade-plus. "To me, if there's any media bias, it slants much further to the right"...WHAT?!?!? Yes they are biased; I'm not going to argue that, but come on!!! Clearly the big 4 Networks (CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN) are more biased to the left because they have more viewers than FOX. You don't hear them downing the president, you don't hear them praising or talking positive about Romney. They always praise Obama, and never have anything negative to say about him. They point out everything they think is wrong with the GOP and everything they think is right about the LIBS. You need to paying more attention to the slant of the networks and the msm. The difference is that most people go to CBS, ABC, and NBC for entertainment, and not political analysis. FOX News reaches more interested political viewers than those three networks combined. |
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Post by spearjack24 on Nov 3, 2012 15:30:19 GMT -5
"To me, if there's any media bias, it slants much further to the right"...WHAT?!?!? Yes they are biased; I'm not going to argue that, but come on!!! Clearly the big 4 Networks (CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN) are more biased to the left because they have more viewers than FOX. You don't hear them downing the president, you don't hear them praising or talking positive about Romney. They always praise Obama, and never have anything negative to say about him. They point out everything they think is wrong with the GOP and everything they think is right about the LIBS. You need to paying more attention to the slant of the networks and the msm. The difference is that most people go to CBS, ABC, and NBC for entertainment, and not political analysis. FOX News reaches more interested political viewers than those three networks combined. Wrong...More people watch Network news than those that watch FOX. Also the networks entertainment programs are skewed more towards the left. If you pay attention the shows have more left leaning issues. All of them do. Shows from "The Good Wife", "HIMYM", "Partners", of course "Saturday Night Live" and many, many others. If you say they aren't; you are biased. |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 3, 2012 17:52:11 GMT -5
While the national polls are relatively close, Obama holds the lead in several swing states. I could definitely see a situation where Romney wins the popular vote but Obama the electoral college.
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Post by robinsonben36 on Nov 3, 2012 18:15:00 GMT -5
The difference is that most people go to CBS, ABC, and NBC for entertainment, and not political analysis. FOX News reaches more interested political viewers than those three networks combined. Wrong...More people watch Network news than those that watch FOX. Also the networks entertainment programs are skewed more towards the left. If you pay attention the shows have more left leaning issues. All of them do. Shows from "The Good Wife", "HIMYM", "Partners", of course "Saturday Night Live" and many, many others. If you say they aren't; you are biased. Okay. |
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Nov 4, 2012 1:42:16 GMT -5
Well, as far as that last thing goes, as I said, I don't know much about US politics, but in Mexico, you just can't vote for a party. It's a big mistake, because the ideals, or the party, are not the ones who will be in office, but the candidate will. Same goes for the U.S system not the party only the candidate runs the country; the candidate shares many, but not all views, with their party. You said you're from Mexico, does your vote actually matter there? I mean aren't those elections fixed? I feel ashamed. Well, arguably, the only election that is "fixed" is for the President of our country. Governors from every state or mayors/city presidents are pretty much "clean" elections. As far as the President goes, there's no way they'd let a 'libertarian' win. Things are really messed up here on so many ways. |
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Post by Fleet Foxes on Nov 4, 2012 2:04:59 GMT -5
lulz.
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Post by Razor-toothed™ on Nov 4, 2012 8:11:25 GMT -5
Same goes for the U.S system not the party only the candidate runs the country; the candidate shares many, but not all views, with their party. You said you're from Mexico, does your vote actually matter there? I mean aren't those elections fixed? I feel ashamed. Well, arguably, the only election that is "fixed" is for the President of our country. Governors from every state or mayors/city presidents are pretty much "clean" elections. As far as the President goes, there's no way they'd let a 'libertarian' win. Things are really messed up here on so many ways. They really are messed up; I live right across the border from Mexico, constantly I hear things about shoots outs between organized crime and the Mexican soldiers, in which innocent bystanders die. I visit Mexico from time to time, but I'm always scared to go. |
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