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Post by mrhoss on Jan 11, 2012 16:05:53 GMT -5
...Me personally when legends came out I wasnt interested. Jakks made classics out of regular molds not deluxe. So right away I wasnt interested because Mattel was Deluxe not regular as Jakks was. And then the line up sparked 0 interest from me because I already had all those guys in Jakks form. And then I saw Mattel, wow, was I disappointed in the figures. I thought they had horrible facial sculpts and the bodys looked like r3 from jakks. So it looked like a step backwards to me. IMO we got inferior sculpts from mattel for a higher price than jakks... A lot of the Jakks collectors felt this way. I'm the complete opposite. I thought Mattel's figure, at least from the headsculpt down was far superior to Jakks and would get all the old collectors to jump on board Mattel's line. I just can't wrap my head around not wanting to buy an new, updated version. And this is coming from a fan of Jakks who is still picking up pieces from their older lines.
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Post by WCW-Figure-Fan on Jan 11, 2012 16:24:30 GMT -5
I think Mattel just overextended the line. There didn't need to be Legends AND Defining Moments AND Entrance Greats. Especially coming off Jakks very long run with Classic Superstars. The model of including two classic figures in Elite line-ups is probably much more sustainable in the long run. As to WWE not educating their fans about their history, why on Earth is that their responsibility anyway? That's not something they've ever done. Classic Superstars succeeded with fans who just remember the classic wrestlers. Mattel's problem is that this was the exact same group the wanted to target and enough of them were not interested in investing in a new line for it to succeed. I eventually collected Legends figures, but I was hesitant to start for that reason.
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Post by Rob7274 on Jan 12, 2012 18:48:42 GMT -5
I think Mattels case assortments are to blame too.
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Post by qdogg on Jan 13, 2012 14:28:03 GMT -5
I dont blame Mattel or WWE for any of the lines whatsover really. Its debatable even if the lineups of legends had been better and the costumes different that they would still be on the shelves.
WWF figures have been made for over 20 years now. There is going to be some down time for any line of figures. Other than Star Wars I cant think of any line that has had new product put out year after year for that long a time.
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Post by micco on Jan 13, 2012 15:49:26 GMT -5
The "jakks has already made those guys" excuse doesn't really fly with me because we all knew that there were going to be numerous duplicates due to jakks having made almost everybody worth making. Nobody wants to hear or admit this but we the collectors may have failed to do our part of buying these figures up. Maybe Mattel slightly overestimated the the collector market which these lines were geared towards but after several series' of multiple lines they still were under selling. In other words, we, the consumers these were marketed to, were under buying. for whatever the reason. The only figures from these lines that I don't have are the ones I never found at retail which happen to belong to the last 2 legends sets, but I can remember lots of people saying about entrance greats and defining moments, things like, "I'll wait until they come out with..." or "I'll just get the elite..." and the worst one "I'll wait until its on clearance". This type of behavior has definitely contributed to the demise of these lines.
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