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Post by LaParka on Feb 10, 2012 10:01:18 GMT -5
There has to be a minimum amount of packages to get a shipping discount from UPS. The Post Office does not really offer bulk discounts.
Compared to most places Ringsides shipping is reasonable enough thats why I continue to order from them.
Unfortunately the international shipping is quite high mostly Global Priority but its about a week unless you go the airmail route which can take up to 4 weeks depending on customs, with no tracking and such.
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Post by Dangerous Donovan on Feb 10, 2012 10:22:56 GMT -5
This isn't really isn't something they could do and still stay in business. Shipping is expensive. I shipped 60 packages in the last week and I can't believe what it costs. For example, to send a 1lb 6oz package priority to Cleveland, OH would be $8.65-$9.45, which would basically be 1 Elite type figure. That doesn't even factor in a percentage of packing material and labor costs.
The reason places like Amazon do it, is because they are a huge corporation with distribution centers all over the US. They don't have to ship something from NY to California because they have a closer outlet to ship from, keeping their costs down. I am sure they still lose money but again, they are able to absorb that kind of loss, while a place like RSC can't.
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Post by the franchise on Feb 10, 2012 10:53:35 GMT -5
They are not Amazon. They aren't going to eat that much of a loss.
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Post by pxkgotosleep on Feb 10, 2012 10:59:09 GMT -5
Shipping to the UK is like $35... Is this applicable to us!? (Those in the UK.)
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 10, 2012 11:24:26 GMT -5
The company I work for does millions of dollars in sales online and we offer free shipping on our products. It might not make sense for RSCs business model but it makes sense to us. Look at Ebay, people will pay more for items that don't charge for shipping than ones that do even if the total price is cheeper on the one that charges for shipping. People think they are getting something for... well, free. It's marketing. If Ringside had free shipping, I bet they would do more in sales than what they would eat on shipping costs, but that is just my educated guess. Additionally, the more volume they move, the more negotiating power they have with shippers. It's all strategic business. Again though, I don't know enough about what kind of volume they do to say that would be what is best for them in particular.
A flat shipping fee of $50 a person could work imo. RSCs receives a chunk of the shipping percentage. There will be some who order a ton and probably people who pay it and only order one time. Most people will be in the middle though. Sales would have to increase for this to work though. Meaning, if they gave us a break on shipping and didn't pick that up in order quantity then they would be losing money. It's a risk, but again, something I think would work as expected. I don't see them doing this though.
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Post by gawd6sic6™ on Feb 10, 2012 11:37:40 GMT -5
agreed... with how some people on here talk,, they are out multiple times a week looking for figures... how much gas or bus fare are you wasting looking for stuff? how often do you come home empty handed? pay a little more for shipping , and a mark up on the figure.. it will even it out.. yes the excitement of the hunt is cool.. the thrill of finding that figure you have been looking for , for weeks is amazing.. but sometimes you just need to bite the bullet and spend a few damn dollars to get what you want... I live in the 2nd largest city in the state, and about once a month I'll get in the vehicle and hit every Walmart, Meijer, Target, KMart, TRU and Kohls in the city. That's something like 6 Walmarts, 4 Meijers, 3 Targets, 2 Kmarts, a TRU and 2 Kohls. So yes, on the off day i come home with NOTHING, it was expensive, and I agree to an extent, paying above the line seems fair in the long run...but it is killer when I experience that moment when I spend so much online just to find them in the store the next time I'm out. right , you just said what kinda helps push my point.. you go out once a month... thats not toooo much of a hit.. day in and day out , we see people report of finding the newest figures, then a 5 page thread erupts about how everyone and thier grandma are going out looking for them.. then its followed with pissed off post and dissapointment, because they arent out in the other peoples areas, but they go a few more times a week hoping to pick up that toy.. which adds up fast.. if you do toy runs mixed in with everyday runs , its not so bad.. when coming home from work ill hit our target , kmart , walmart and meijer.. its on the way home..i would be passing them by anyway.. tru on the other hand is 30 minutes away.. so i save that for once or twice a month.. others on here , unless they are straight up lying , seem to run out a lot on runs that come back fruitless , then get pissed about mattels horrible distrobution, how much local stores suck , or how much rsc prices suck.. but if they sucked it up and just ordered stuff , half the time the wasted time/effort/gas money would level it out... but thats just how i look at it...
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Post by MetalFingers DOOM on Feb 10, 2012 13:20:12 GMT -5
Sorry to say this would NEVER happen. Do you guys know what it cost to ship these days? It aint pretty and RSC doesn't control the United States Postal Service. IF they ever did a flat rate for shipping it would probably be $100. The smater move would be RSC Rewards program where you get $1 per item. That way RSC wouldn't lose that much, and frequent customers would gain more. For example if you order a complete Elite series (6 figures) RSC gets $119 for the set & you $6 added to your account ($1 per figure). RSC Rewards would make me want to buy more...but a lil more than a dollar a fig
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Post by PJ on Feb 10, 2012 13:39:07 GMT -5
You have to remember Mattel, TRU and other mass retailers are a much larger businesses than RSC so they get offered much better shipping rates than RSC gets from the carrier services. A 5 pound package from one of those businesses is alot cheaper than one from RSC, because the carriers are getting much more busniess from them then they are from RSC. So they charge RSC higher shipping rates to pick up their shipments because they are getting less volume from RSC than they would from a world wide company like Mattel. I know you have a point, but why is it that they charge me USD 35,- to USD 45,- on shipping for just ONE figure (depending on the shipping method), and when I buy a bulk of MOC (approx. 10) figures from other members on here (from the US), shipping is somewhere between USD 40,- and USD 50,- only (including a tracking number)? This is what I want to know! The surplus in shipping costs can not only be explained by an additional carrier service.... Because RSC has accounts with the USPS & UPS where the services provided (things like daily pick ups & supplies) are all factored into the shipping rates that RSC are given by the carriers. Those are things that most of the boardmembers don't deal with going to their local PO or UPS store.
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Post by kenlarchtin on Feb 10, 2012 13:44:49 GMT -5
I rather RSC have a subscription service. You subscribe to say the elite series for 2012 for one price shipped. Say there are 6 series of Elite in 2012 and RSC charges $120 for each so that would be $720 for the year but Subscribers get all the elites in 2012 for $600 shipped. This is just an example but would be very cool if RSC did this.
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Post by GrimKid on Feb 10, 2012 13:48:16 GMT -5
They need to do a "pile of loot" system the way bigbadtoystore.com does...I'm not gonna explain it here, but go to their site and read about it, it's an amazing system and saves a ton on shipping costs For those who order alot
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Post by Greensborohill on Feb 10, 2012 13:48:48 GMT -5
I rather RSC have a subscription service. You subscribe to say the elite series for 2012 for one price shipped. Say there are 6 series of Elite in 2012 and RSC charges $120 for each so that would be $720 for the year but Subscribers get all the elites in 2012 for $600 shipped. This is just an example but would be very cool if RSC did this. That's a good idea
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Post by kenlarchtin on Feb 10, 2012 13:52:37 GMT -5
I rather RSC have a subscription service. You subscribe to say the elite series for 2012 for one price shipped. Say there are 6 series of Elite in 2012 and RSC charges $120 for each so that would be $720 for the year but Subscribers get all the elites in 2012 for $600 shipped. This is just an example but would be very cool if RSC did this. That's a good idea Thanks my friend :-) Also $600 or whatever the cost would be at one time is a lot for people to handle so they could break it down to $50 a month for 12 months. You get all the figures and you could sell the ones you don't want on Ebay to help pay for your subscription.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Feb 10, 2012 14:01:18 GMT -5
The company I work for does millions of dollars in sales online and we offer free shipping on our products. It might not make sense for RSCs business model but it makes sense to us. Look at Ebay, people will pay more for items that don't charge for shipping than ones that do even if the total price is cheeper on the one that charges for shipping. People think they are getting something for... well, free. It's marketing. Thing is though, that sort of marketing works for bargain-hunters. The market for Ringside is the opposite of bargain-hunters... It's people who want stuff first, and are prepared to pay stupid money for it. As long as there are enough people of that mindset, RSC stays in business. Even if there was free shipping (which wouldn't be feasible anyway), it still wouldn't persuade the average person to pay $50 for a $10 figure. You have to remember Mattel, TRU and other mass retailers are a much larger businesses than RSC so they get offered much better shipping rates than RSC gets from the carrier services. And yet, RSC is a much larger business than Little Jimmy Ebay or a Wfigs member, but has worse shipping prices.
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 10, 2012 14:16:20 GMT -5
The company I work for does millions of dollars in sales online and we offer free shipping on our products. It might not make sense for RSCs business model but it makes sense to us. Look at Ebay, people will pay more for items that don't charge for shipping than ones that do even if the total price is cheeper on the one that charges for shipping. People think they are getting something for... well, free. It's marketing. Thing is though, that sort of marketing works for bargain-hunters. The market for Ringside is the opposite of bargain-hunters... It's people who want stuff first, and are prepared to pay stupid money for it. As long as there are enough people of that mindset, RSC stays in business. Even if there was free shipping (which wouldn't be feasible anyway), it still wouldn't persuade the average person to pay $50 for a $10 figure. You have to remember Mattel, TRU and other mass retailers are a much larger businesses than RSC so they get offered much better shipping rates than RSC gets from the carrier services. And yet, RSC is a much larger business than Little Jimmy Ebay or a Wfigs member, but has worse shipping prices. Well but what if it convinced the average Ringside consumer to buy an entire set of guys instead of 2 or 3? I think the idea would be that it appeals to RSCs already existing niche market. I have heard plenty of people say shipping is the reason they order or didn't order more. So that leads me to believe there is some sort of demand there for cheaper shipping. Not saying I don't agree with you, because I honestly do and just don't think based on RSCs size that it's an ideal thing for them to try, but I do think it is something that could work if they took the risk. Not really worth the risk to them though if I were to guess.
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Post by PJ on Feb 10, 2012 16:44:33 GMT -5
The company I work for does millions of dollars in sales online and we offer free shipping on our products. It might not make sense for RSCs business model but it makes sense to us. Look at Ebay, people will pay more for items that don't charge for shipping than ones that do even if the total price is cheeper on the one that charges for shipping. People think they are getting something for... well, free. It's marketing. Thing is though, that sort of marketing works for bargain-hunters. The market for Ringside is the opposite of bargain-hunters... It's people who want stuff first, and are prepared to pay stupid money for it. As long as there are enough people of that mindset, RSC stays in business. Even if there was free shipping (which wouldn't be feasible anyway), it still wouldn't persuade the average person to pay $50 for a $10 figure. You have to remember Mattel, TRU and other mass retailers are a much larger businesses than RSC so they get offered much better shipping rates than RSC gets from the carrier services. And yet, RSC is a much larger business than Little Jimmy Ebay or a Wfigs member, but has worse shipping prices. But most little Jimmy ebayer or WFig members don't have an account with USPS or UPS where the carriers supply them with a computer (and or) software with their shipping rates already programmed into it...And in their shipping rates that carriers also factor in the supplies and the daily pickup service that were part of the account they were signed to. Most non business have to go to their local PO/UPS store, use their own supplies or buy them at the PO (Unless they are a flat rate box) So that is cheaper than what a business will be charged. And a small business like RSC is going to have higher shipping rates than a world wide company like TRU/Mattel/etc that have multiple facilities. At least that's how it was when I was working at UPS. Companies would bitch to me all the time that their shipping rates were higher than other larger companies. And all I'd say was "I'm just a driver you need to talk to your UPS rep" Then they'd say they did and were told they didn't have as much volume as such and such.
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Post by brethartfan97 on Feb 10, 2012 18:52:03 GMT -5
Why would anyone being arguing against this? It's a win-win for RSC and consumer. At the very least, you, the person buying these figures should support it because even if you don't want to subscribe, you aren't being forced to. Why would you argue against it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2012 21:58:04 GMT -5
would be nice but will never happen
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Post by zakrewski on Feb 11, 2012 13:08:18 GMT -5
I could see them...........
NEVER DOING something like this lol
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